View Full Version : This PISSES ME OFF!!
Unregistered
12-06-2004, 07:22 AM
I just got back from seeing a hypnotist. 2 sessions, A LOT of money. I can tell you now with all honesty that it did not help me AT ALL. My problems can't be fixed with ONE scripth. My problems can't get fixed with just closing my eyes! So did I get this whole idea with hypnotising wrong? Why are they called professionals again? Why do they charge you that much? Basically he asked me to count and make the numbers disappear. He then said that if I could make them disappear, then I would be in a trance.. Well I could make the numbers disappear just as quickly as I could make them appear again. I actually thought hypnotises were more than that. Why didn't anyone warn me? I am hypnotising myself every day. So I went to a professional to really GET IT DONE this time. But he didn't do a fu*king thing to help me!! Now I'm back here disappointed and BROKE. Even more depressed than I was in the first place.
WHAT IS hypnotising, really? Please, I am dying to know. If you are THAT consqious during hypnoses, then how can they "fix" anything at all? How can they make people re-live their past for instance? How does a REAL hypnotist do it? It's too bad I actually thought this one was. But I'm left with no hope.
Hello Guest,
I can understand that you might feel pissed off. I presume from the way you spell 'hypnotising' (the correct way) that you are in the UK. If so, I would suggest that you contact the complaints committee of the hypnotherapist's professional organisation and make a formal complaint. Before you do that I would suggest that you put your complaint to the hypnotherapist concerned and see what he has to say.
To attempt to answer your questions:
So did I get this whole idea with hypnotising wrong?
I don't honestly know. It depends what you expected in the first place.
Why are they called professionals again?
Because some are and some get incredible results.
Why do they charge you that much?
In the UK the average one hour session costs about £30-£40. This is less than a plumber. Some plumbers are worth £100 per hour and others would be overpaid at 2p per hour.
Why didn't anyone warn me?
Who did you ask? If you had asked on here I and others would certainly have recommended you to a properly qualified hypnotherapist. I would also have warned you about the charlatans, present in this profession as in any other.
WHAT IS hypnotising, really? Please, I am dying to know. If you are THAT consqious during hypnoses, then how can they "fix" anything at all? How can they make people re-live their past for instance? How does a REAL hypnotist do it? It's too bad I actually thought this one was. But I'm left with no hope
Hypnotism is the method used to enable temporary suspension of the 'critical faculty' of the conscious 'mind'. Access to the subconscious mind can then be gained and the client's problem dealt with. If you did not feel hypnotised then you were probably not hypnotised, but the feeling of being hypnotised varies with individuals. You may have been in trance but had an incompetent therapist. You may not have been in trance and therefore the therapy would be ineffective, it is difficult to say, because I was not there.
'Real' hypnotherapists do not attempy therapy unless they are sure that the client is in the altered state we call trance. Counting down numbers is just one way of very many in which trance can be achieved, but for some people it works very well. If it didn't work for you then another method will.
Regression to past events is experienced by the client as a reality at the time and the client is usually present in the event and experiencing it as if was now. It is one method of removing the emotions attached to old memories and helping a client to view the old memory differently, with updated information.
You are not left without hope. Speak to your therapist. If you get no joy speak to his organisation. If you are still not satisfied then come back and if you are in the UK I will give you the name of a professional organisation to contact.
Jack
Unregistered
12-06-2004, 10:42 AM
Thank you, I am not in the UK though. Well basically my expectations was that it WOULD indeed work, and that I didn't have all that power to think therefor interupt it with my thinking. I actually thought of it as akward when I had to say the numbers out loud. I wasn't hypnotised at all, that's my experience. And because I think too much, I guess I will never know. Because even if I close my eyes and feel my body heavy, that can happen to me just when I think about it. I can make a room turn upsite down if I focus. But the hypnotist himself said that thinking during hypnotising is actually a good thing, because you are not to focus too much on what he is telling you. But I am strongly disappointed because I actually RELIED on this, and I'm in the same pain as I was before.
UK is England, right? (just making sure!) If they have really professionals over there, maybe it's worth the trip. I don't live all that far away if it's in England. But would hypnotising indeed work in your second language? Especially since your past wasn't in that language. I really think the 're-live' my past would be the best thing for me. No matter how painful. It is now.
Overall, thanks for growing some hope in me.
Where do you live, there are competent people all over the world and one of us might know someone close to you.
mariah
12-06-2004, 01:41 PM
I live in Norway atm.
Amsterdam is the closest person I know.
mariah
12-06-2004, 03:01 PM
Then England is actually closer to that. And in Amsterdam they have that accent.. right!? :confused:
Merlin
12-06-2004, 08:12 PM
Hello,
Sorry to hear of your experiences.
>I can tell you now with all honesty that it did not help me AT ALL.
Not all hypnotists have skills in all areas.
> My problems can't be fixed with ONE scripth.
The fact there even was a script implies the particular hypnotist lacked experience in your area of need.
> My problems can't get fixed with just closing my eyes!
Probably true.
> So did I get this whole idea with hypnotising wrong?
Possibly. What did you expect? Mind control?
> Why are they called professionals again?
Because it is done to earn money.
A professional is someone who charges money.
>Why do they charge you that much?
Prices range from free up.
I personally charge up to £5000 for a session.
>Basically he asked me to count and make the numbers disappear. He then said that if I could make them disappear, then I would be in a trance.. Well I could make the numbers disappear just as quickly as I could make them appear again.
He should have tested to be sure of your 'state'
>I actually thought hypnotises were more than that.
Hypnosis is not complex.
>Why didn't anyone warn me?
I did.
Did you read my FAQ?
What part was inadequate? I'll update it.
>I am hypnotising myself every day.
That's not surprising.
Most people do.
>So I went to a professional to really GET IT DONE this time.
"professional" does not imply skill. It only implies a money transaction.
>But he didn't do a fu*king thing to help me!!
Did you ask for your money back?
>Now I'm back here disappointed and BROKE. Even more depressed than I was in the first place.
>WHAT IS hypnotising, really?
Read my FAQ
>Please, I am dying to know.
Read my FAQ
>If you are THAT consqious during hypnoses, then how can they "fix" anything at all?
A hypnotist doesn't fix anything.
A good hypnotist guides you to 'fixing' yourself.
>How can they make people re-live their past for instance?
In hypnosis, you are able to easily reexperience past memories. But that require hypnosis, which it sounds like you didn't achieve.
>How does a REAL hypnotist do it? It's too bad I actually thought this one was. But I'm left with no hope.
I am sorry.
Mariah,
It would be a problem using an English hypnotherapist if English is not your native language. I know that Norwegians usually speak English very well, but the reverse cannot be said for my compatriots who resolutely refuse to learn any language other than their own. Unfortunately Norwegian is not a language I am familiar with either. As for the Dutch, there is nothing odd about a Dutch accent and most of them speak English well, too.
Dr Konrad Morgan at the Department of Educational Information and Science, Bergen University may be able to help you find a professional hypnotherapist.
Jack