Psychedelic Hypnosis

[azygous420]

A few of my friends have taken psychedelic mushrooms recently, and they have all experienced hypnosis before. I feel under their enthusiasm/experience concerning hypnosis and my experiences with self hypnosis and having read several books on the topic as well as been taught some about the methods of induction. I have heard that psychedelic experiences can be conjured under hypnosis, but I cannot successfully emulate them in myself.

Assuming my methods of inducing hypnosis work on my test subjects, is it at all likely that they will have a full blow psychedelic experience, or can revert back to their recent trips?

If so it does not make since that people would take drugs if they can be successfully replicated, with out the negative aspects, and also with out cost.

I would love to hear from anyone that has achieved anything like this.

[master_debator]

A few of my friends have taken psychedelic mushrooms recently, and they have all experienced hypnosis before. I feel under their enthusiasm/experience concerning hypnosis and my experiences with self hypnosis and having read several books on the topic as well as been taught some about the methods of induction. I have heard that psychedelic experiences can be conjured under hypnosis, but I cannot successfully emulate them in myself.

Assuming my methods of inducing hypnosis work on my test subjects, is it at all likely that they will have a full blow psychedelic experience, or can revert back to their recent trips?

If so it does not make since that people would take drugs if they can be successfully replicated, with out the negative aspects, and also with out cost.

I would love to hear from anyone that has achieved anything like this.

Why would you want to do this? Also, I'm kind of worried when you say your "test subjects"...this kind of sounds to me like you don't know what you are doing, right?

[azygous420]

Well to my knowledge, all hypnosis is self induced, anything your brain does to itself I cannot see as being destructive in anyway. And they are test subjects, all hypnosis subjects are test subjects if hypnosis cannot be defined. These are well informed close friends of mine who have experienced hypnosis before from themselves and others, I am also well experienced in the same manner and I am in no way CONTROLLING their minds, just allowing them to control their own to regress back to their last, consensual, mushroom trip. I am not ill informed on hypnosis and do not need criticism, just wondering if anyone here has successfully achieved a psychedelic trip from the power of their own mind. This is what I referred to as enlightenment.

[skip]

"... anything your brain does to itself I cannot see as being destructive in anyway."

You might want to rethink that one. I know people who are schizophrenic, manic depressive, multiple personality, paranoid, etc who would suggest that is a woefully ignorant statement.

Have you ever heard of the DMV IV?

"And they are test subjects, all hypnosis subjects are test subjects if hypnosis cannot be defined."

And you know this how?

"I am not ill informed on hypnosis and do not need criticism, just wondering if anyone here has successfully achieved a psychedelic trip from the power of their own mind."

Neither are you 'well informed' or you would realize how sophmoric your questions are.

In hypnosis you can duplicate any state that they have before experienced, and create states that the person has not experienced, to the extent that their imagination and your cleverness can achieve.

And yes many many people have 'successfully achieved' psychedelic trips from just the power of the mind.

So now your 'question' has been asked and answered.

Wouldnt you be better off, learning to achieve an hour long orgasm?

The responses to your next question is going to depend on how well you can 'make the case'.

If you really are interested in enlightenment, you wouldnt mind relating what Timothy Leary had to say about the fifth thru eighth circuits.

If you arent sure, you might ask one of your 'well informed close friends'.

cheers,

skip

[azygous420]

My friends are not schizophrenic, and under normal circumstances, I do not feel that the human mind resorts to self destruction. They are test subjects as I said before, and all hypnosis subjects are because if you put someone into a state of mine you cannot explain then that is experimental. I have actually just finished a book by Timothy Leary called Your Brain is God, and I my goal is not to give my friends orgasms. Now that I think about it this forum is full of stuck up *******s, excluding Don, who try to sound more informed then the next person about the same damn thing which no one seems to be able to explain so its pointless to say who is informed or not, I'm not asking how to do it. I just wanted to see how many people have done this and if it is actually anything like the original experience. Just because you are all *******S I'm not going to post on here again.

[Don]

Have you ever heard of the DMV IV?

Is that, like, a new way to get a driver's license? :D :eek:

[Poodle]

Skip was not being hateful, stuck up or anything else. All he did was to put the facts on the line. "Them there's the facts, nothin' but the facts".

A lovely state of deep hypnosis is truly better than any drug I have ever known in my whole life by at least a million times! There are also no negative side effects.
I'm talking about a REALLY altered state. Trust me on this, okay? I was young and having fun in the 60's and 70's.

You just may wish to reconsider what Skip wrote.

Stay well,
Pood

[Merlin]

Azy,

Given your expressed attitude, I don't know if you'll even read this, but here goes.
Yes hypnosis can bring about the experience, or any part, good or bad.
Without good training, you could lead the 'subjects' to a very um... unpleasant experience, rather than fun.
Skip's examples are how the mind can choose less than optimum, and he tries to warn you.

>I would love to hear from anyone that has achieved anything like this.

I teach my more advanced students how to pick and choose which experiences to relive or to make new experiencese :)

[azygous420]

At this moment I am working on achieving this state of mind in myself, and I am not trying to impose this on anyone who has not expressed a very positive attitude toward their past experiences. I read your FAQ as well merlin, and it has answered a few of my questions. Just because I can be defensive does not mean I refuse to learn, that what I'm here to do and I would just prefer if people tried to stay on the positive side when making suggestions if I seem out of line. Good to hear from you too poodle, although I have not successfully achieved this on myself I'm glad to get a first hand account of this phenomenon.

If you have any suggestions to prevent any possible negative side effects I would love to hear them.

One question to you merlin, what do you say to those who think hypnosis isn't real? Hard to argue sometimes without feeling like a moron.

[Don]

I'm not Merlin (she's much prettier than me!), but I will give my answer to your last question.

If somebody thinks hypnosis isn't real I say, "You're absolutely right. Have fun. Good bye!"

Life is too short to waste time arguing with people who are not only ignorant but flaunt it as wisdom.

It's the same reason I don't talk to politicians.

[azygous420]

It baffles me how wise that statement was, thanks