finish course tomorro

[pinktrance]

hi all, havent been on for a while as have been at the end of my hypnotherapy course, have now finished course work, completed case studys and revised for final exam tommorro!!!! hooooray :)
have just been reading about the fact that many people are therapists because they have something unresolved within their psyche, and the only way to work through it is to help people, so how do you therapists feel about that one? do you feel that your job is a symptom of an unresolved issue you have?
cheers pinky:confused:

[Don]

Hi, Pinky.

Congratulations on completing your studies! It's really something when one finishes something that took a lot of work. it feels great!

While many therapists, especially hypnotherapists, I know are wonderful people, my experience with state-licensed psychological therapists is that many of them are some of the sickest wackos I've ever met. My guess is that most are wonderful people, but I've met many who are alcoholics, dealing with parental issues and personal abuse issues, or have some sort of process agenda ("My technique is the only one that works") or religious agenda (usually conservative fundamentalist Christianity). These people have had incredible negative impact on their patients.

Let me make clear that I'm sure most licensed healers in the psychological field are wonderful, helpful people. But there are also some out there who, because they don't understand their own motivations and psyches, are harming individuals, families, and groups. I'm far from perfect, but at least I focus on clients rather than trying to turn them into me.

[Terry (existing)]

It would be interesting to know were that comment came from. Bet it was from a psycologist (G) On the other hand, I was always brought up to accept that I was one of the fortunate people, and therefor had the duty of helping those less fortunate. When I discovered hypnosis, I found I had a natural affinity for it, so perhaps there is something in what you say, but not always in a negative sense.

[Merlin]

Hi Pinktrance,

CONGRATULATIONS!

Therapists are often as you describe, as are therapists who become hypnotists.

Most of the people I've met who learn hypnosis or hypnotherapy just discover a wonderful tool (hypnosis) and later want to help others (hypnotherapy)

[EC]

Hi Pinky

Allow me to add my congratulations as well. Feels great doesn't it !

Answering your question:

>>Many people are therapists because they have something unresolved within their psyche, and the only way to work through it is to help people <<

Disagree - There are certainly those that are in the counseling field because they have something unresolved.... However, I find that rather than trying to absolve themselves thru helping others, they are looking for their own answers thru discovering the problems of others. Huge difference.

But, this is certainly not exclusive to counseling, eveyone that has unresolved issues or inner needs to be met, meet those needs in their own creative ways: How about the overweight young man in school that is bullied, he becomes the policemen, he needs the power and control to fill his need. How about the wheelchair bound kid, he becomes the wheelchair marathon racer, or the sheltered kid from the religious family where sex was never discussed and that knows nothing of the opposite sex, sometimes they become Gynecologist

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How about attorney's, they have a great need to be heard, to get their opinion expressed. Daddy would never let them so they become lawyers. They are also the profession that suffers a great deal of alcoholism. They can stop doing that when they win all their cases and everyone respects their opinion. Naw...That really won't help, that is not the answer they really seek!

So you see, while Don may be correct for some, he may be putting the Psychology turds in the bucket and rolling them down the hill unfairly. The higher you go up the ladder in any profession, the more indepth unresolved issues you find. You see, they are looking harder for answers. While Psychologist have similar problems to others that are looking for answers, Psychiatrist, those at the top of the secular mental health ladder, have the highest suicide rate. Thay have gone to the top of the ladder trying to find answers and ran out of options.

Interesting how you can look closely at professions and often can often find the need the individual is trying to meet. And there are other considerations;

Don's response for example, Intense expressions of anger, that could be something deeper :eek: :D

Or Merlin, how she is always positive and on-target :)

EC

[pinktrance]

i think EC, that what you are talking about here is sublimation, which is different.
sublimation is when your subconscious mind redirects energy from the socially unacceptable to the acceptable. it tends to involve our most insistent instinctual drives - often sexuality. so someone that has a weird sexual perversion may for example become a monk or priest. werird eh! does explain why so many clergy men seem to end up behaving inapropriately ! another example would be the sublimation of parental urges and instincts on to animals, weve all met a mad dog or cat lady with no kids!! hope i havent offended anyone, this isnt my opinion, this is just what ive been learning about:)

thanks for the congratulations, ive just got home and finished now, im just off to party!!!:D
cheers all
pinky

[EC]

Pinky,

What I described was in part, the building blocks of behavior later expressed. Sublimation is an attempt by those of the clinical mind, that really don't understand the simplicity of behavior, to put things in terms they can understand. The problem is, such names and labels divert attention from the truth, almost certainly insuring failure on the part of the would-be counselor or therapist. As an example, your statement;

>> so someone that has a weird sexual perversion may for example become a monk or priest. werird eh! does explain why so many clergy men seem to end up behaving inapropriately <<

When one applies this word "sublimation" to clergy acting inapropriately, they come to the conclusion that it must be >> subconscious mind redirects energy from the socially unacceptable to the acceptable <<

And with that belief in hand, an ineffective therapist does it make, because the truth is, the needs resulting in inappropriate behavior on the part of clergy has zero to do with sexual perversion. That is the expression only.

Wishing you a long and prosperous career in helping folks,

EC

[pinktrance]

yea your right mate, i stand corrected. i know what i was trying to say but said it wrong! ;)