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tinam
01-22-2008, 03:43 PM
Hello. I have a question about hypnosis during sleep. My boyfriend asks me questions while I'm sleeping and says its a form of hypnosis that he learned during his military career. He also says that if he tells me how he does it, it won't work anymore. Is this possible or am I just a blabbermouth when I'm sleeping?

Merlin
01-22-2008, 04:39 PM
am I just a blabbermouth when I'm sleeping?

It's possible to hypnotise a person while sleeping, though very difficult.

>He also says that if he tells me how he does it, it won't work anymore.

nonsense

Poodle
01-22-2008, 05:58 PM
Wear ear plugs. Don't know about any "mouth plugs"....maybe a BandAid over mouth at night.

Jack
01-23-2008, 02:40 AM
If you are in one of these brain states when the question is being asked you may be able to answer the question. The answer will not always be truthful. Now, whether or not this ability has anything to do with hypnosis is debatable.

You can test whether your boyfriend is telling truth by hiding an item somewhere in your home without telling him where. Then see if he can 'hypnotise; you during your sleep and find out where the item is hidden. Of course you might just want to tell him so the experiment is not foolproof!

Jack

Don
01-23-2008, 08:28 AM
Tinam, people here have answered the question you asked. I'd like to comment on what you didn't ask:

What the hell is your boyfriend doing asking you question while you sleep?

Why can't he ask you questions while you're awake? What does he think you're hiding from him? What are you hiding from him?

While the possibility of hypnotizing someone while they're asleep is interesting, to me it's irrelevant. I can hypnotize someone quite nicely while they're awake, thank you.

What's more important is that from your post it sounds like you and your BF have extreme issues of distrust and communication problems. I would suggest that if you feel you'd like to keep this relationship that you two should get into couples counseling.

And finally, one other point. Hypnosis is not some form of truth serum. Just because you're hypnotized does not mean that you are going to tell the truth. His attempt to find out truths about you by asking you questions after he supposedly hypnotized you while you are sleeping is doomed to failure.

Simple Guy
01-23-2008, 08:58 AM
Tinam,

I'll second Don's post, 100 percent.

Jack
01-23-2008, 09:14 AM
What the hell is your boyfriend doing asking you question while you sleep?



I suspect that when a dog has a trick he has learned then he will keep on performing it. Nothing more sinister.

In the army I learnt how to survive in the wild and occasionally I trot off to the woods or the mountains to commune with nature and pretend. I usually come back with a sprain of some kind or another but despite vowing never again I always go again, and actually will only stop when I become too infirm to carry a pack. I also learnt how to kill a man in a few seconds but fortunately that old trick seems to have been erased.

Jack

Simple Guy
01-23-2008, 09:26 AM
Hi Jack,

I'd consider attempting this "trick" to be intrusive, at best (worse
than snoring).

Re: "survival," I made the mistake of telling some of my buddies about
eating an eel (not in our ordinary cuisine). Been getting kidded about
it since. -- Probably won't eat one again, unless in a true survival
situation, though doing so would be preferrable to consuming
meal worms. :)

Simple Guy
01-23-2008, 10:02 AM
Tinam,

My banter with Jack isn't to lessen the seriousness to which I'm in
agreement with Don's post.

Everyone,

The time that people are retiring for the evening is an impressionable
time, generally. Remember the addage of "garbage in, garbage out,"
and be mindful of the kind of info. that may be being presented
at that time, including that which comes from TV, news, radio, songs, etc.

Terry
01-23-2008, 11:43 AM
What really peaks my curiosity, is the posters attitude of aquiecense. I hope non of my grandkids would think that way.

To thine own self be true.....

John B.
01-23-2008, 06:32 PM
Hello. I have a question about hypnosis during sleep. My boyfriend asks me questions while I'm sleeping and says its a form of hypnosis that he learned during his military career. He also says that if he tells me how he does it, it won't work anymore. Is this possible or am I just a blabbermouth when I'm sleeping?

Yes, it is possible. Hypnosis is not sleep but it shares a major characteristic in that the concious mind is quieted and the subconcious is dominant.

Your boyfriend is most likely waiting until he observes that you are dreaming and then he quietly talks to you. When he does this he'll likely ask you to remain asleep and not be disturbed by the sound of his voice. It may appear to you that you are talking to him in your dream.

All you have to do is to give yourself the suggestion, as you drift off to sleep, that should you hear your boyfriend's voice at any time while you are asleep or dreaming, you will immediately wake up.

Game over.

-John B.

Jack
01-24-2008, 01:51 AM
'Mealworm' is something of a misnomer since they taste foul. Ordinary red earthworms are not unpleasant if you can get past the squishiness and the continued wriggling as you eat. But never ever eat marsh worms - the blue ones- they are truly disgusting; even fish don't like them.

Survival & Gastronomic Tip: Carry salt with which to salt one's earthworms. Worcester sauce helps too and is useful with small rodents.

Eels are a delicacy. I remember, as a teenager, catching an eel at Buttermere Lake in the Lake District and frying it on the bank. It was delicious with salt. And later on living in the East End of London I acquired a taste for jellied eels, which I have since lost, and 'Rock Cod' which is actually dogfish but has quite a pleasant taste. 35 years on and I have had neither since, so a pilgrimage might be in order. Thanks for reminding me.:)

Jack

cdreyer03
01-24-2008, 10:25 AM
I agree with Don as well. A good relationship is not based upon secrets. You both need to be open to one another and communicate while out of hypnotic state. Unless of course your trying to get him to help you in some way maybe remember something of importance deep in your subconcious.

Poodle
01-24-2008, 11:01 AM
There's more to it than that or we all could just put on a CD at night when we sleep and voila.

It takes a high degree of skill and is not found in just ordinary hypnosis/hypnotherapy trainings.

What gets really interesting is when I do an induction on myself in my dreams and go into somnambulism -- definitely very different from dream state but gosh darn then I wake up. Ohhh, to be able to stay there for hours on end!

Truthfully, my clients tell me more than I would ever want to know before trance. I have little need to ask any more than yes/no questions to which I use an ideomotor response. The SC mind is very, very crafty and doesn't give up secrets unless it wants to and then it's not always the truth.

On the back of my brochures are some truths about hypnosis:

1. Don't expect to feel zonked out

2. Do expect to feel more relaxed (relaxation is not necessary)

3. You are in control. You will never do anything in hypnosis that is against your morals or ethics. You have the right to accept or reject suggestions.

4. You cannot get stuck in hypnosis (DARN IT!!!!)

5. Hypnosis is NOT a truth serum.

6. Can YOU be hypnotized - YES!!

Now either wear ear plugs or get rid of SO for playing stupid games that SO is ill equipped to play. You want to have fun - wake up in the middle of the night and yell TEEEEN HUT and just enjoy watching how quickly post hypnotic suggestions do work. Pood

Simple Guy
01-25-2008, 08:28 AM
Hi Jack,

"Mealworms," isn't a misnomer to amphibians and some lizards,
some of which eat them with relish. Well, not actually relish. ;)
The worms we've got here that even fish don't like are large ones
with a band on them. It's 35 years since you ate dogfish; 25 years
since I've eaten eel. I don't remember seasoning the eel, but do
remember consuming some beer.

Among the most repulsive looking fish that tastes great is the monkfish.
I'm told that the searobin isn't bad tasting, it is hideous looking; never had it.
Worcestshire sauce contains anchovies; some people who use it
wouldn't have tried it if they'd have known this.

Terry
01-25-2008, 01:30 PM
Never ate eels myself, but I do remember a time when I was stationed in Grimsby, and some of our crew decided to fish for eels from the docks. If you ever saw the water you would know that was not smart, however, they did, they caught eels, and they fried them. By the time I got back from an evening ashore, all were in bed, sick as dogs, and the remains of eels, heads etc, were mute evidence to stupidity.
Funny thing, the water in Slave Lake is very murky, yet I eat the fish that comes out of it. I promise however, never to eat eels no matter where they come from.....:eek: :D

Simple Guy
01-25-2008, 03:19 PM
Hi Terry,

Maybe their being sick was also evidence of drunkenness; seems
to accompany some of the more adventerous eating experiences of
people I know. I've seen eels (carp and catfish) living in very
filthy waters, though. Not too many people know that the American
and European eel begins life in, and then returns to the Sargasso Sea.
It is a remarkable story. If this conversation continues, we may
have to arrange the first annual forum fishing outing. ;)

Poodle
01-25-2008, 05:14 PM
Last eve. on the local news were state biologists warning people not to drink out of the streams as they contain e-coli which harms humans but has no effect on fish so they said to go ahead and eat the fish. As Jack once told me it gives a totally new level of meaning to the words Brown Trout. It's not from humans, it is the animals in the water. :eek:

tinam
01-25-2008, 08:32 PM
Thanks for the information. I was surprised by some of the responses, but after reading my post I can understand people reading between the lines. I would like to say that I asked the same question Don did. Why was he doing this? He found it amusing to see what I would tell him. Am I quietly going along with his game? Absolutely not. When I found out what he was doing I gave him a couple of choices. He chose to stop. Thanks again for your responses.

Jack
01-26-2008, 01:16 AM
Once had a girlfriend back in the mists of time who adored Lea & Perrins Worcester sauce until I mentioned the hairy little anchovy and she swore never to use it again.

Strange thing is: I bumped into her for the first time in 40 yrs last Saturday and we are having her and her husband over for dinner tonight, so I will ask about the sauce. Now, I wonder if the meeting was precipitated by the mention of Worcester sauce in the ether, or somewhere along the timeline a marker demanded that I first mention Worcester sauce on the forum in order to be able to bump into my old g/f, write this post and have dinner with her and her husband tonight. Quarks are great with Worcester sauce by the way.;)

Terry, anyone who eats anything from Grimsby dock deserves all they get, and I'm sorry I mentioned the alternative (or is it complementary?) Brown Trout, Pood, if you live anywhere near mountains take your fish from as high as possible. They will be smaller but not infected with the products of human bowels. Once fishing on the lower Tweed in Scotland I caught a Salmon which when gutted was found to contain a condom. The fish was on its way back to the sea having spawned so was a baggot as we call them - I can only assume that romance must have bloomed further up the river, but needless to say the fish was not eaten, although our gillie thought he recognised the condom...

Jack

Simple Guy
01-26-2008, 07:25 AM
Hi Jack,

Nice synchronicity. You may want to consider having A1 Sauce as
an alternative, if available where you live and if you are serving
steak. :) I've not heard of a salmon consuming a condom, but
am not surprised. Here is why: there are soft tubular squid looking
baits that are used in the States that do resemble condoms.
I have heard of sea turtles, though, swallowing deflated balloons,
resulting in their demise.

Poodle,

There is a stream not far from here that contains a wild brown trout
population. Fishing is allowed, but posession of these fish is illegal,
because they contain pollutants from industrial discharge that persists
in the stream from many decades past. The industry is long gone.
The fish continue to live and breed, but the toxicity is so bad, that
you aren't allowed to do anything but release them if you catch any.
Had occasion to drink some "potable water," from a well at a county
park a few years ago. The pump should have said, "chamberpot-able,"
because the next week there was a warning sign on it that said that
it is not drinkable because of e-coli. :eek:

Poodle
01-26-2008, 11:56 AM
I can only suggest that you come out here fishing. You can have your limit of Brown trout or any other trout and also Walleye and Crapies (here called Cropies). The best are in streams in the higher country called "brookies". Not much in the way of industry except O&G and coal. The methane in the NE is making somewhat of a mess tho. Generally the water runs sparkling crystal clear - one just doesn't drink it because of the animals.

Now one day in Colombia my mother-in-law made a different type of a soup. It was sooo yummie I asked if I could please skip dinner and just have another bowl of soup. We had like 10 course meals with soup being the second course. I asked what kind of soup it was and my father-in-law started to reply but he received a kick under the table from my husband and quickly shut up. My husband gave me some kind of a name like maybe "French soup" so I ate my second bowl with gusto. Weeks or months later I found out the soup was tripe which definitely would have been on my "no-no" list. I did ask my MIL how to make it. Things are not always as they seem. I suspect the same is true for Worcester sauce even tho I hate anchovies I use the sauce and like it - especially in Sloppy Joe's. Pood

Simple Guy
01-26-2008, 07:57 PM
Hi Poodle,

That's it... arranging the forum fishing outing! ;)

Never had tripe, but you're in agreement with others I know who
have, who say it does make a good soup. That "tripe" means
something other than the ruminant lining (I think it is) of a bovine,
that isn't valued, doesn't do its image good, though. One of the
cheapest cuts of meat is beef heart. It's different, and if prepared
right, in the opinion of many who've had it, isn't bad. A friend of
mine recently returned from Peru; he and his family didn't enjoy
the native guinea pig dish.

Simple Guy
01-26-2008, 08:04 PM
"What gets really interesting is when I do an induction on myself in my dreams and go into somnambulism -- definitely very different from dream state but gosh darn then I wake up. Ohhh, to be able to stay there for hours on end!" -- Poodle

Hi Poodle,

Sleep study people say that the duration that we perceive dreams
to last is vastly time distorted. And, of course, somnambulism often is
also subject to time distortion. Your above paragraph prompted me to think of this.

Jack
01-27-2008, 02:15 AM
SG, we had dinner last night and my old g/f is still repulsed by anchovies which fortunately we were not serving. Her husband, whom I had not met, is also a fisherman and gave me information about a stretch of the river Spey I have not fished but have often walked past unheeding. What is closest and most familiar is often disregarded.

Pood, here tripe used to be served either with fried onions or boiled in milk, and was poor man's fare, but it is served in several London restaurants now as a delicacy since the poor now eat curry, or burgers made from eyeballs, testicles and ears. I find it simply offal. ( I'll apologise in advance).

Jack

Terry
01-27-2008, 02:25 PM
Why apologise Jack? Ofal is good:D ...I enjoyed brains when young though I doubt I would eat them now after the Mad Cow scare.. Fried and put on toast, it was a delicacy. I have enjoyed raw liver, but my kidney must be cooked, prefferably with steak in a pie, however my wife does a wonderful dish of breaded kidney which my brother tried, and became a devotee to kidney ever after.
Braised stuffed heart is terrific, no fat and wonderful texture. Fact is, being the son of a butcher, I have tried just about every cut of meat you can mention and enjoyed them all.... Rabbit was often on our table, until the mixamatosis problem, and now we never eat it because that is just common sense...
I am hoping to try Haggis one day, I understand it is rather dry, but it does contain all those animal parts I have enjoyed, Liver, Kidney, Onions, and whatever else, all tied up in a tripe like outer cover....Failing finding an original one, I will make my own, though it is unlikely I will be able to put all the contents in a bag, so will just settle for the contents only, including tripe. My product however, will be fried or roasted first, not just boiled, which in my opinion leave much to be desired when it comes to taste..
By the way, soaking tripe in salt and vinagar water for half an hour improves it, and new potatoes are a wonderfull accompaniment. Much of our enjoyment of food is depenant on preparation, rather than content. I have tried just about every type of food, and loved those that were prepared by experts......
Now I must turn my attention to Irish stew, since we will be feeding the hords for our St Patricks dance, and must make it as enjoyable as possible..

Poodle
01-27-2008, 05:50 PM
Could not help but think of you this afternoon as I was going through the newspapers ads for the larger stores in town for Valentine's Day. There was the absolutely magnificently perfect 'Jack Valentine'...a foil wrapped chocolate salmon that has a little sign above "YOU'RE A KEEPER' and made to look like it is mounted on a beautiful wood oval which may be chocolate too all for the whoppin' price of $2.99. What an adorable Valentine for anyone that likes to fish. It is sent in thought as the Post Office cannot deliver to: Jack in England. Pood ;)

Simple Guy
01-27-2008, 08:09 PM
Hi Terry,

You didn't mention "sweetbreads," (glands) or tongue. Last night
my wife and I wound up at an authentic Mexican restaurant that
had several kinds of tongue dishes on the menu. Didn't order it;
had it numerous times when growing up, though not Spanish style.
For that "tripe like outer cover," a cheesecloth made for food usage,
might possibly suffice. I did ask my wife tonight if she'd prepare
some kidney pie. She said, "No." Looks like I'll have to ask her
again while she's sleeping. Oh, oh. This thread has come full circle. ;)

------------------------------------------------------------------------
A hypnotherapist does not live by bread alone.

Connie
01-27-2008, 08:41 PM
Here's what I use to filter out disturbing sounds at night, perhaps it might work for shutting out your boyfriend:

http://www.salveo.co.uk/img/products/ear_plugs.jpg

Jack
01-28-2008, 01:41 AM
Haggis is ok if you are drunk, Terry, but some people enjoy it so I may be wrong. Rabbit? Like you I can remember rabbit stew and as a student exchanging rabbits for pints of beer at our local pub. Do you still have mixymatosis? It is almost gone in England. One more experience to be revisited.:)

Thank you for you kind thoughts Pood, I had almost forgotten about Valentine's Day but now will always associate it with a Poodle rushing from an American river clutching a chocolate salmon:) :)

Jack

Terry
01-28-2008, 08:07 AM
SG. Yes indeed, sweetbreads were among the many delights I sampled, and as for tongue, I still buy it, since it is something I can enjoy preparing. It is the sweetest of meats when properly cleaned, and the root removed before cooking. I always put it in a mould afterwards, along with the liquid it was cooked in. It then becomes potted tongue, and is easily carved.:cool:
Rabbit, well, I haven't heard of any mixamatosis for years, but the thought still remains. Besides, my wife buys food, and feeds the local rabbits, so that they make a tasty lunch for our coyotes, so I suppose you could say that I SHARE, but only because I was put off by the disease first..:D

Connie
01-28-2008, 08:12 AM
I've eaten rabbit...good stuff but too many bones. :)

Poodle
01-28-2008, 09:54 AM
Where I live they are often infected with tuleremia. One does not even have to eat it. Just cooking one with a tiny small cut on the hand is more than sufficient to be near death. We feed the Cottontails but don't touch the Cottontails. They like white bread for some reason and so do the deer. This winter has been particularly hard for the mule deer and most probably won't make it to spring. Too much snow so they can't get to food. The State has been feeding the elk. Big problems with the wolf population too. The State wants to keep only 8 packs and a lot of people aren't too happy about it. Such is life among the critters. Pood

Terry
01-28-2008, 04:38 PM
You live and you learn, I had never heard of Tulermia, now I know something new.
Thank you Jack for an new idea for an excuse to get drunk..:D Haggis will be on my menu very soon.....
Since it is a Scotish dish, it must of course be accompanied by a bottle of one of the "Glens". Now all I need is information as to contents of a Haggis, and ask as I will, nobody is willing to admit they know, and I have many Scotish friends, so how come? Are they ashamed of the dish or what? I challenge anyone of Scotish decent to send me this information if they have it, even if it is sent annonymously...:eek:

Don
01-28-2008, 07:59 PM
There are many recipes for haggis. Most include the following ingredients: sheep's "pluck" (heart, liver and lungs), minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally boiled in the sheep's stomach for approximately three hours.

The Larousse Gastronomique puts it, "Although its description is not immediately appealing, haggis has an excellent nutty texture and delicious savoury flavour."

Most modern commercial haggis outside Scotland is prepared in a casing rather than an actual stomach. There are also meat-free recipes for vegetarians.

Some say the dish is traditionally served with "neeps and tatties" ( yellow turnip or rutabaga and potatoes, boiled and mashed separately) and a "dram" (of Scotch whisky). However, may only be associated with the traditional main course of a "Burns Supper."

Recitation of the poem "Address to a Haggis" by Robert Burns is an important part of the Burns supper.

Haggis is traditionally served with the Burns supper on the week of January 25, when Scotland's national poet, Robert Burns, is commemorated. He wrote the poem Ode Tae a Haggis, which starts "Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face, Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!" During Burns's lifetime haggis was a popular dish for the poor, as it was very cheap, being made from leftover, otherwise thrown away, parts of a sheep (the most common livestock in Scotland), yet nourishing.

Haggis can be served in Scottish fast-food establishments deep fried in batter. Together with chips, this comprises a "haggis supper". A "haggis burger" is a patty of fried haggis served on a bun, and a "haggis bhaji" is another deep fried variant, available in some Indian restaurants in Glasgow. Higher class restaurants sometimes serve chicken breast stuffed with haggis; haggis can also be used as a substitute for minced beef in various recipes.

Another modern haggis-based dish is 'Flying Scotsman', chicken stuffed with haggis. This dish is also known as Balmoral Chicken when the chicken is stuffed with haggis and also wrapped in bacon.

Etymologist Walter William Skeat (see: Skeat's Etymological Dictionary) as further suggestion of possible Scandinavian origins: Skeat claimed that the hag– part of the word is derived from the Old Norse hoggva or the Icelandic haggw, meaning 'to hew' or strike with a sharp weapon, relating to the chopped-up contents of the dish.

Terry
01-28-2008, 10:51 PM
I had that awfull feeling that I had forgotten an important ingrediant, and of course it was oatmeal, how could I? I thought I might also have missed out on vegetables, thinking carrots instead of that wonderful vegi rutabago, or in English turnip.....Thank you Don, and also for confirming that it is important to serve with a dram of the best....
This will now be saved, and made very soon together with a report on how it was received...:D

Jack
01-29-2008, 02:08 AM
And all finished off with a deep-fried and battered Mars bar swilled down with Ir'n Bru. The last being a very sweet drink which singlehandedly has (allegedly) removed the teeth of many young Scots.

Good luck with your haggis, Terry - just don't tell them what's in it!

Jack

skip
01-29-2008, 04:58 AM
Terry, FYI


1 sheep's pluck (stomach bag)
2 lb.. dry oatmeal
1 lb. suet
1 lb. lamb's liver
2 1/2 cups stock
1 large chopped onion
1/2 tsp. cayenne pepper, Jamaica pepper and salt
Boil liver and parboil the onion, then mince them together. Lightly brown the oatmeal. Mix all ingredients together. Fill the sheep's pluck with the mixture pressing it down to remove all the air, and sew up securely. Prick the haggis in several places so that it does not burst. Place haggis in boiling water and boil slowly for 4-5 hours. Serves approximately 12.


OR


Lady Login's Receipt, 1856
1 cleaned sheep or lamb's stomach bag
2 lb. dry oatmeal
1 lb chopped mutton suet
1 lb lamb's or deer's liver, boiled and minced
1 pint (2 cups) stock
the heart and lights of the sheep, boiled and minced
1 large chopped onion
1/2 tsp.. each: cayenne pepper, Jamaica pepper, salt and pepper
Toast the oatmeal slowly until it is crisp, then mix all the ingredients (except the stomach bag) together, and add the stock. Fill the bag just over half full, press out the air and sew up securely. Have ready a large pot of boiling water, prick the haggis all over with a large needle so it does not burst and boil slowly for 4 to 5 hours. Serves 12.

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enjoy,

skip

Terry
01-29-2008, 07:34 AM
It gets better and better, never tried lights before, we always gave that to the cat....:D

Jack
01-29-2008, 07:37 AM
It gets better and better, never tried lights before, we always gave that to the cat....:D

If short of materials use the cat. It will taste just the same:eek: .

Jack

Simple Guy
01-29-2008, 10:19 AM
"Suet," never saw it before as a recipe ingredient, but do see it in
winter birdfeeders (often also functioning as squirrelfeeders).

Did some hypnotic recall of some of the foods that were
part of my upbringing. Some of those foods are better not even
thought of. :eek: Also, recalled being about 7 or 8 y.o. when I
called the butcher shop (they've largely now gone the way of
the buggy whip) and asked the butcher if he had chicken legs.
He said that he did. He was then advised to not wear shorts.

Connie
01-29-2008, 11:24 AM
My dad made suet bird feeders, too. :) They LOVED it.

A friend's similar "prank" was do you have Prince Albert (tobacco) in the can? Yes? Well...let him out!!!

skip
01-29-2008, 01:22 PM
Is your refrigerator running ...

Terry
01-29-2008, 04:32 PM
Is your refrigerator running ...
No, it's so heavy it can't even walk....

Jack
01-30-2008, 01:08 AM
Those suet bird feeders are called fat balls here.
Perhaps I won't ask my local pet shop chap if he
has them.

Jack

Terry
01-30-2008, 08:32 AM
Those suet bird feeders are called fat balls here.
Perhaps I won't ask my local pet shop chap if he
has them.

Jack Go on Jack, I dare you, and of course put in the right inflexions also....:D

Poodle
01-30-2008, 09:38 AM
Not as a main ingredient but do you ever eat hamburger, ground beef? Contains suet. Ground wild meat (deer, elk, antelope) needs to be mixed with beef suet or it is waaaay toooo dry. And, yes, we still have a butcher's shop and the butchers in the grocery store will make you what you want -- just press the bell. Pood :)

Merlin
01-30-2008, 09:55 AM
>Not as a main ingredient but do you ever eat hamburger,

Um, the main ingredient is usually meat
unless it's a tofu burger or something.

Simple Guy
01-30-2008, 10:32 AM
Hi Poodle,

I rarely eat hamburger anymore because I've yet to use a manual
grindner that I own to grind steak into burger and haven't
been buying steak except to slice and use as tortoise food.
A problem with commercially bought ground beef is that lots of
it is commercially ground in vats of many thousands of pounds.
Commercial processing conditions what they are, it doesn't take
more than a slight slipup to contaminate an entire batch with
e-coli. As a result, restaurants in my state have a warning that
it is risky to consume rare hamburger and customers that do so,
assume the risk involved. As medium or better done are the
"safe" choices, well, burgers aren't often chosen by Simple Guy.
Being mindful of saturated fat is another consideration. I wonder
how mixing in olive oil or another "beneficial" oil would work for
wild game. I've had both deer and elk, though not ground. Never
had antelope. Butcher shops here are very rare and most of those
really aren't much more than grocery stores with meat as a specialty.
I don't eat much meat anyway.

Simple Guy
01-30-2008, 10:37 AM
Go on Jack, I dare you, and of course put in the right inflexions also....:D

Terry,

That would be an assignment tailor made for the henpecked husband
on the sitcom "Keeping Up Appearances."

Poodle
01-30-2008, 08:18 PM
but it's like IMMEDIATELY (or so it seems). :o

Simple Guy
01-31-2008, 10:13 AM
but it's like IMMEDIATELY (or so it seems). :o

Hypothetically, not prescriptive, if a dreamed induction took place via other than self-induced means, maybe a dreamed of CD that is perfect for the sleeper at a given moment, there might be less of a tendency to awaken that might be "shortening" the experience.

Poodle
01-31-2008, 11:37 AM
I was inducing myself by something that I had not learned yet -- (eye movement integration therapy) and very shortly I was in somnambulism for what seemed like there and then wide awake (startled awake). I actually thought I had discovered eye movement therapy and was going to write a paper on it. Duhhh! Already done. I've done the same in the "waking" state to no avail but then I use all of my rep systems.

I was sorta freaked out but Merlin nicely and quickly explained that my mind had already learned trance so it was easy to do it in the dreamstate. Anne

Simple Guy
01-31-2008, 12:15 PM
Dearest Poodle,

Doesn't sound so weird to me, as REM sleep, most closely associated
with dreams, involves eye movements. As for one of the eye movement
therapies, I'm skeptical as to the way that the inventor says she
arrived at it. I strongly suspect NLP influence and am making no
statement or suggestion about anyone's character.