Hypnosis help with social phobia/anxiety and public speaking

[quinn]

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum...found through a quick google search to hypnosis.com.

I've had varying degrees of acute social phobia and fear of public speaking since a teenager. In the past three years I've taken steps to overcome this with a local psychologist, but with stress at work it seems to get worse. There is a definite learned behavior aspect to my situation, I just can't seem to get over that hump.

I'm looking for suggestions from you regarding this...

1. Is Hypnotherapy for me? I did try hypnotherapy 3 years ago for a few months with a local psychologist, but it wasn't her specialty. I never really felt different. I'd like to beleive there is a way to remove this subconcious trigger and get on with my life!!!

2. Where can I find a good hypnotherapist in the Detroit, MI area with references...maybe even someone who specializes in this area.

Thank you in advance for your help! I do beleive this change is possible...I just need to find the right partner to help me make it happen.

[Terry]

1 Is Hypnotherapy for me? 98% yes,2% no....
2. How did you find your doctor, or the psychologist you worked with? Most of us are in the yellow pages.
Specialists however may prove a little difficult, you will need to ask. However, this would also be nescessary in order to find the RIGHT partner to make it happen.

[Poodle]

Actually for what you say you have, I'd go with NLP -- much faster. I would bet you learned these really, really fast and it's just as easy to "unlearn" them.

To find someone in your area may be a problem. You can e AmericanPacific and ask if they have anyone near you. You can e NLPComprehensive and ask if they have anyone in your area and you can also long onto PureNLP.com and see if you can find a trainer near you. There is also ABNLP but I don't know if Candace has the referral part working yet. Skip here (moderator) sometimes does phone work and so does Docresults.

There are just a whole bunch of ways to find someone qualified to get you where you want to be NOW!

Be well,
Pood :)

[quinn]

Thanks Poodle and Terry...

It's very hard to find hypnotherapy here...you wouldn't beleive it. I went down this path several years ago and would up wasting time with a very sweet therapist who didn't specialize in hypnotherapy, but tried.

Also, have you ever heard of the Lefkoe Institute? I spent quite a while with phone sessions with them, and I truly beleive they help people...it just didn't work for me. ... Now I've looked a little into NLP and it really confuses me. I'm not sure but it may be what Shelly and Morty do...if that's the case it doesn't work for me. By the time I get back on the phone with them I've re-trained myself...if that makes sense...to be nervous.

I really wish I could find a referenced medical professional who could put me under, and "dig out" this demon...it's so fustrating. Something like "You will be perfetly calm when more than two people look at you and you're speaking."

For instance, if you look in the yellow pages for hypnotherapy in Detroit all I get is one person ...

And my physchologist doesn't really think Hypnotherapy is valid...

Arghh...

[Don]

Hi, Quinn.

I thot I'd throw in my hand at providing some guidance.

First, don't you think it's odd that you believe an organization that you "spent quite a while with" helps people but couldn't help you? Maybe they do, I just find it an odd way to express it.

Psychology and hypnotherapy are two different paths to achieve the same goals. Thus, asking a psychologist about hypnotherapy is like asking someone who sells Fords what they think about Chevrolets. Of course they're going to say their cars are better--that's how they make their living. IMO neither psychology nor hypnotherapy are "better," they are simply different.

Be that as it may, for the issues you are dealing with both hypnotherapy and, as Poodle mentioned, NLP, can be beneficial. Psychology can be beneficial too. One of the major differences is that both hypnotherapy and NLP are classified as "brief" therapies. That is, they should help you completely resolve each issue in only a few sessions. Although there are some forms of psychology that are brief, some of the well-known ones take many months or years to deal with issues.

To find someone in your area I would suggest contacting the American Board of Hypnotherapy at http://www.abh-abnlp.com/referral.htm or by sending an email to info@hypnosis.com or contact the National Guild of Hypnotists at https://www.ngh.net/referral.htm

[quinn]

Thanks Don...

I say that because I don't want to desparrage Shelly or Morty...both worked very hard to help me but it just didn't work. They've got a ton of referrals, so it does work for some people.

I hear you on the Phsychology...she completely disagrees with me that I can change this quickly. There's something inside of me saying, "Keep looking...you can figure this out...it's just something there holding you back."

My issue with Psychology is that before I know it, we're talking about everything else in life and not working on the problem. While I feel good when I leave, I'm only 1cm closer to my goal of being free of this fear.

I'm going to take your suggestion, thanks Don.

[quinn]

Also, long time was 8 phone sessions, and after I decided it was not going to work (they promised something like 6 sessions guaranteed), I spent a long session with Morty...to no avail.

True to their word they refunded every penny I paid. It's a testament to their work that they offer an unconditional guarantee with their product.

[Connie]

You need a skilled NLP practitioner. I'll warrant one session would do it, would "fix" this problem forever--NLP is that powerful. I wish I had you in my office.

[John B.]

That's a bad link for NGH.

Try
https://www.ngh.net/Forms/Referral.aspx

[quinn]

Hey guys wanted to post this experience as it's happening. Might help you to understand my condition.

This past weekend I was a nervous wreck because I had a large conference call on Monday. I made it through that and I've been relatively stress free since...especially since I didn't have another scheduled.

10 minutes ago I saw an email come through requesting another conference call presentation for tomorrow...and all I can do is think about it. It's so intense that I can't really focus on getting work done...just thinking a bout that. It's definitely a pattern.

Also, my phobia isn't limited to standing or speaking live in front of people...it's also teleconferences. I think it is definitely based around the sound of my voice.

That nagging sensation will be there until about 10 minutes into tomorrows call. UGH I've got to get rid of this!!!

[Terry]

And of course you are making it worse by dwelling on it aren't you?

You came here asking for advise and got it. Continuing to post instead of following through with the advise is more than a waste of time, it is debilitating to you. Is that what you really want?

Act instead of talking, because all the talking in the world won't change what is, it will just exacerbate the problem. Find yourself any practitioner you can find, your problem despite how you feel about it is minor in the general scheme of things, and any decent practitioner will rid you of it instantly...

[MissPiggy]

...both worked very hard to help me but it just didn't work

It's not necessary to work hard if the only problem is a phobia. If the therapist works hard on it he just doesn't know how to deal with it. Phobia cure is simple.

[Terry]

Took me, a real dummy on the computer, to find dozens of practitioners local to you. Try Jerome Beacham PhD for example, 248-549-5594.

[Poodle]

I just did a little search on my own too. I would guess quinn just doesn't want the help. I even found a psychiatrist that teaches and uses hypnosis right there. There was another that specializes in anxiety and phobias. What do we find that quinn can't, won't find especially since we are not all that computer saavy. Pood :confused:

[quinn]

Wow you guys are getting nasty...and I thought I had a condition!

Terry...geesh gimme a second here. I'm looking for suggestions from you guys...not just google results. For instance, try a search for a practictioner in NLP from purenlp.com. There's one...3.5 hours away. In the whole state! I've been waiting 3 days for a response from the grinder guy's site...nothing.

If I were you I wouldn't assume anything about me. For the most part this is helpful, but especially with Terry's posts I'm starting to feel like that cancer patient who can't connect emotionally with his doctor...and the doctor is totally out of tune with real human beings.

"I would guess quinn doesn't want the help?" Poodle...my goodness you two are a tough crowd!!!

From all of your posts...from both NLP certified sites and the hypnotherapy sites that you guys sent me to...I've only gotten one response. And it's from a very nice sounding lady who wants to be a life coach. Not fix my problem, but teach me to fix it. Teach me NLP and Hypnotherapy.

And that post earlier? I was trying to communicate a feeling as it was happening to try to gain insite from you guys.

[quinn]

Also...if you've read my posts you'll realize I've spent alot of time in different types of therapies. Why should I go prancing off to the first person on a google result, who has no certifications? What's wring with taking time to find the right person?

[Poodle]

I told you that Docresults here can and will take care of your little problem here by phone if you got the money. No need to search all over. He used to specialize in that until this new training and now he has expanded. You had excuses for that too. "I tried one for 8 sessions and nothing." You did not TRY HOUSTON. I don't even know with your attitude if he would work with you. As Connie wrote - one session in my office and it's OVER! Does that give you a clue as to what we do?

Your brain will eventually get tired of running this silly pattern of yours but it can take 50-60 years for it to occur. Really want to wait that long? It's your life and you can live it in happiness or in terror - your choice.

This board is comprised of some of the finest that can be found in our occupations throughout the whole world.

[Terry]

Reread please..... You asked for advise and got it. You asked for guidance and got it. You then proceeded to harp on your probems instead of dealing with then as we suggested, and got a warning that this was not helpful but destructive. I believe that when you read properly, as in read and digest as you would any important communication, you will find that you were dealt with very fairly by skilled and knowledgable persons, and need to apologise for not paying proper attention to the information you were given in good faith.
Failing that, I will consider that I am wasting my time and will cease to give you any more of it since you feel agrieved rather than thankful for what you got...

[quinn]

Wow I can't beleive you two. I hope you're happy with yourselves and see, someday, that you are the ones with the very bad attitude.

Terry and Poodle that's fine...please stop posting on this thread then if that's your wish. Abandon it and go amongst the other threads. I'm sure some people might find your ugly, nasty posts helpful...but not me.

Me apologize? Hardly.

Don, Connie, Miss Piggy and Merlin (I can't remember your screenname), thank you for giving me hope and being so supportive. More importantly, thank you for talking to me like a human being and never, ever, getting nasty or assuming that I'm trying to waste your time. Yours is the kind of support I thought I'd find here. Hooray for you.

I look forward to continuing our conversation, and when I find the right therapist I will come back and let you know how I fared.

[Connie]

Hi, Quinn! We all know you're a human being, and, really, everyone who replied is trying to help! I think that the message I'm seeing is that this problem may seem HUGE to you, but to skilled hypnotists and NL-People, it's a common one and very very surmountable. :) You're going to have an excellent result!!!, whether you consult with anyone you found here or local to you.

[Adam]

Excellent advice as usual! After the NLP session, I suggest giving http://www.toastmasters.org (http://www.toastmasters.org/) a visit. Incredible organization that can take a person from public speaking novice to public speaker extraordinaire!

[Poodle]

I would guess that's one link that will get to stay on the Forum. It is a good place to start. Don has also mentioned the book "Presenting Magically" by Tad James, I believe.

Thanks,
Pood

[Connie]

Don has also mentioned the book "Presenting Magically" by Tad James, I believe.

Thanks,
Pood

I've had that book for some time, but am just getting into it now. It's super fantastic!!!! Love it.

[Adam]

Oops! Did I commit a no-no with the link? Holy I need to reread the FAQ's, Batman!

[Connie]

Oops! Did I commit a no-no with the link? Holy I need to reread the FAQ's, Batman!

Are you Adam West? :)

http://sp1.mm-a6.yimg.com/image/3457592344

[Poodle]

I have a very large suggestion - get out of that book now. You will have to unlearn what you are reading for fantastic ways that will make you super. Trust me on this one, okay? Most people can't or won't do what you are going to do. You will definitely be a "magical presenter". You will actually have no choice in the matter...it just happens. Don't ask me how. As you know with "him", it just happens and it's lots and lots of fun too. Pood :)

[Connie]

I thought it would help me prepare for Bandler. You're saying don't read it now?

[Adam]

Are you Adam West? :)

http://sp1.mm-a6.yimg.com/image/3457592344

:DThank you! I'll be chuckling for the rest of the day.

[Poodle]

That's exactly what I'm saying. It will only interfer with Orlando. Actually I've made a promise to reattend every two years. That way I can keep my knowledge up to speed, have a lovely almost "free" vacation while greatly enjoying the company. Pood

[Connie]

Thanks, Poodle. I'm taking your advice!