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master_debator
12-19-2007, 10:36 AM
What dvds can I purchase that is made for beginners to learn hypnosis?
Thanks
Poodle
12-19-2007, 10:55 AM
There is a lady that teaches hypnosis not too far from you. You just missed a "sale". I'll pm the website and you can find out when the next class is.
Have a wonderful Holiday Season.
Pood
You can find lots of 'em for sale on eBay. Also do a web search for hypnosis DVDs. You'll find lots of them there.
Poodle
12-27-2007, 10:04 AM
Most of the regular posters know who owns this website and pays all the bills, yet they come and want to know where they can receive what Dr. Matt and staff teach for free or on DVD's.
What are people not seeing? Does it need to be printed in red and verified before posting? Confused as usual, Pood :confused:
Pood, years ago there was something called "netiquette." It was about how to act when on the internet or on forums. It was left over from pre-internet days when BBSes were the equivalent of forums.
Part of the rules of netiquette included read the FAQ or rules, if there are any, before posting. Read lots of previous posts before posting. Don't ask the same question that 15 people have asked before.
Netiquette survived because you had to know how to use software and modems in order to access the BBSes. People had to be trained in how to use the computers. This was in the days of DOS and Windows 1.
Today, make a couple of clicks and you're on a forum such as this one. People know nothing about how to act or to look through past information. They just want their question answered NOW!
That's why we get the same questions repeatedly.
There is also so much information available on the internet, and so much of it is available for free, that many people figure "If it's on the internet, it's free to use." As a result, people steal other people's music, writing, art, research, etc., and think it's okay to put anywhere. What I have written, in the past, is that if you put something on the internet it has become de facto public domain material.
When I see people have stolen something and posted it, and I tell them they have broken the law, instead of "I'm sorry, I'll take it down" I usually get one of two responses: "Everybody does it" or "How dare you attack me!"
So, like it or not, we're going to continue getting people asking the same questions and others who want to be given the results of dozens of years of study and practice for nothing.
It's simply the way of the internet.
Poodle
12-27-2007, 04:29 PM
I remember those days well! YIKES! I believe the law in the USA is: anything after '87 is copyrighted irregardless of the "print". That means posts here, websites and all information flowing on the net.
I've taken a couple of things from Houston and people better believe he is given proper credit. One was just one single little word that makes the statement make perfect sense. I've asked and told. I would guess another is an "additude" but I guess one cannot cr an attitude!
Some eight or nine years ago, the U.S. passed the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that changed everything. It used to be that you could copy short things and post them on a non-profit basis. That's not longer true. A publisher I work for now insists that authors get permissions for every quote, even of a sentence or less.
Several years ago they wanted a photo for the cover of a book. The price the photographer wanted was too high, so they hired an artists who painted a piece based on the photo, although it was reversed and many elements were changed. The photographer still sued for copyright infringement and the publisher settled out of court.
It's even debatably illegal to paraphrase another writer.
Numerous people are working to end the DMCA and return the U.S. to a saner policy of what was pre-Act while still giving protection to those who create.
mysticwarrior
01-01-2008, 10:54 AM
Forgive me, but I think you folks are being a little too harsh here. Either the poster didn't want to take the many minutes to slosh through the FAQ or perhaps they wanted deeper answers from a wide variety of people. Maybe if there were "sticky" threads on some of the most widely asked questions that appeared on top then people would not ask this kind of question.
Instead of making this poster feel useless, try actually helping them find some tools they could use in this wonderful thing we call hypnosis.
MW
Connie
01-01-2008, 04:37 PM
Instead of making this poster feel useless, try actually helping them find some tools they could use
#1. How do you know how someone else FEELS? Where has the poster indicated that he feels "useless?" How do you know what the poster did or did not want, or did or did not take the time to do? Where'd you buy your crystal ball? I suggest you get your money back.
#2. Where is your help to the OP?
#3. Who made you Raja, telling everyone else how to behave?
If all of your posts are as "helpful" as this one, I'll have to dust off the ignore button.
Terry
01-01-2008, 05:18 PM
Forgive me, but I think you folks are being a little too harsh here. Either the poster didn't want to take the many minutes to slosh through the FAQ or perhaps they wanted deeper answers from a wide variety of people. Maybe if there were "sticky" threads on some of the most widely asked questions that appeared on top then people would not ask this kind of question.
Instead of making this poster feel useless, try actually helping them find some tools they could use in this wonderful thing we call hypnosis.
MW Well MW you could well be right, and if so, I am the worst offender. On the other hand it may be that you are being miopic and failing to see the full picture. Do you believe that anyone coming here is entitled to any information they choose to ask for? Or do you feel that it is up to them to prove themselves to be responsible persons who will treat such information in a manner that will reflect well on the donor?
Seems to me, far too many want it all for free, want to use it any way they choose, and feel quite entitled to demand it. No problem, they are entitled to hold such an opinion, but should remember that others are also entitled to differ, and therefore withold such information if they see fit. I view such persons as being without integrity, and unfit to have the information we hold since they are unwilling to do anything to help themselves...
Oh yes, speaking of giving them the proper tools, anyone asking is told that questioning, and reading alone are insufficient to make a safe practitioner, and our goal remains to ensure that we help others to become responsible, safe, and skilled if that is their goal, and to direct them as best we can if they want guidance.
What you are saying, is that the skilled members should not only post FAQs but also go to further trouble to make them "fool proof for idiot", or did I misunderstand you? If not, I assure you nothing is foolproof, and further to that, we don;t really want fools here, they make very poor practitioners, and are impossible to train....:eek:
Just a question, if you don;t want to take the many minutes to look through the FAQs, why do you suppose we should take the many minutes of our time to answer that same question for the fiftyeth time this year?
Maybe, you just lost all right to our respect or time? Fair enough?
mysticwarrior
01-02-2008, 10:12 AM
#1. How do you know how someone else FEELS? Where has the poster indicated that he feels "useless?" How do you know what the poster did or did not want, or did or did not take the time to do? Where'd you buy your crystal ball? I suggest you get your money back.
#2. Where is your help to the OP?
#3. Who made you Raja, telling everyone else how to behave?
If all of your posts are as "helpful" as this one, I'll have to dust off the ignore button.
...I can give my opinion just as well as the next person and I thought some of the responses were rude. I also didn't want the poster to leave with the impression that hypnotherapists were this cynical.
You don't have to worry about the ignore button. I've seen enough to not ever come back...
mysticwarrior
01-02-2008, 10:36 AM
Well MW you could well be right, and if so, I am the worst offender. On the other hand it may be that you are being miopic and failing to see the full picture. Do you believe that anyone coming here is entitled to any information they choose to ask for? Or do you feel that it is up to them to prove themselves to be responsible persons who will treat such information in a manner that will reflect well on the donor?
I don't think anyone is entitled to anything but the benefit of the doubt. I don't think anyone should have to prove themselves when they ask a simple question. If you think it's harmful to lead someone to hypnosis DVD's what do you do with your own patients? Do you allow them the personal freedom to look elsewhere or do you make their mind up for them?
Seems to me, far too many want it all for free, want to use it any way they choose, and feel quite entitled to demand it. No problem, they are entitled to hold such an opinion, but should remember that others are also entitled to differ, and therefore withold such information if they see fit. I view such persons as being without integrity, and unfit to have the information we hold since they are unwilling to do anything to help themselves...
What if someone wants something for free? Like a script or DVD or CD? So what? They are trying to be responsible for their finances and $3,000 courses may not be available for them. You view people who ask for DVD's for beginners to be without integrity? And unfit to have the information you hold? Who made you the secret society guardian of truth? This person was trying to help themselves - that's why they asked the question?!?! Hypnosis isn't to be held by a few elite who think they have such grand knowledge.
Oh yes, speaking of giving them the proper tools, anyone asking is told that questioning, and reading alone are insufficient to make a safe practitioner, and our goal remains to ensure that we help others to become responsible, safe, and skilled if that is their goal, and to direct them as best we can if they want guidance.
Hypnosis is not the epitomy of secret knowledge. People need to have the basic knowledge and practice that knowledge. That's the only true way to become proficient. Skill comes with practice. How is someone going to be skilled coming right out of the gate. They have to start somewhere. Since when has someone died or become psychotic from being hypnotized?
People will only accept suggestions under hypnosis if they want to. They won't be forced to accept something that's harmful to themselves or others. And there is no one I have found who has never "woken up" from somnambulism, the esdaile state or hypnosleep. So, where is the danger?
What you are saying, is that the skilled members should not only post FAQs but also go to further trouble to make them "fool proof for idiot", or did I misunderstand you? If not, I assure you nothing is foolproof, and further to that, we don;t really want fools here, they make very poor practitioners, and are impossible to train....:eek:Again, you assume a lot about hypnosis. You don't have to make FAQ's fool proof for idiots, because anyone can facilitate hypnosis without being an MD or DD. You have a low estimate of human potential. Poor practitioners are only the ones who refuse to practice and sink their minds into theories without watching and doing hypnosis. I don't believe anyone is impossible to train. Hypnosis isn't the deep dark esoteric knowledge that's only able to be used by the top 10% of the population.
Just a question, if you don;t want to take the many minutes to look through the FAQs, why do you suppose we should take the many minutes of our time to answer that same question for the fiftyeth time this year?
Maybe, you just lost all right to our respect or time? Fair enough?
I did a search myself for all things related to Dave Elman here on the forum. I got very little to nothing that I was looking for. Certainly nothing that answered my question. So, should I then give up? I frequent a religious forum where many come not knowing anything about Catholicism, so they may ask the same question that others have or maybe it's asked in a different way.
The regular posters are always willing to still share with the beginner, regardless of how many times it's been asked. I don't think they believe it's a waste of their time. It's an opportunity for them to share something they care deeply about that will help someone in need.
Go ahead. Share your sublime knowledge with only a few that you deem responsible and worthy enough to receive it. And hypnosis will continue to be an unavailable tool for the masses. Good luck.
Poodle
01-02-2008, 01:01 PM
I don't believe you ...grasp... the amount of money we have spent in training courses. Yes, the induction is easy. It's what comes AFTER that is very, very important. "Wake up"?? No - Emerge. Human beings are not scripts. We are all unique individuals with our own reasons for doing or not doing.
Yes, we do read other people's scripts but we DO NOT READ THEM AT A CLIENT. The very best "scripts" are metaphors but then again, a steep learning curve.
Education never stops. ...
mysticwarrior
01-02-2008, 01:28 PM
I don't believe you... grasp... the amount of money we have spent in training courses. Yes, the induction is easy. It's what comes AFTER that is very, very important. "Wake up"?? No - Emerge. Human beings are not scripts. We are all unique individuals with our own reasons for doing or not doing.
Yes, we do read other people's scripts but we DO NOT READ THEM AT A CLIENT. The very best "scripts" are metaphors but then again, a steep learning curve.
Education never stops...?
If you spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on training courses, then who is the fool and who is not? Do you want me to give you a cookie and standing ovation for that when you could've done just as well without it?
Uh...wake up is a common trigger for helping a client come out. "Emerge" would work fine I suppose as any other word you might want to use. I take it that you don't like the direct methods of hypnosis? I'm glad that you don't think humans are scripts. That would be quite comical if you did. I think the definition for humans in the Webster's Dictionary works pretty well for me.
You mean you don't hold a script in your hand and read verbatim as your client stares at you incredulously during a session :eek: . Yeah, I don't think I do that either. It tends to diminish credibility.
LOL. ...
MW