Where do bad thoughts go?

[domain]

Hello everyone,

When someone is treated by hypnosis, and if the therapist had to omit some thoughts,people or places where do they actually go?

Thank You

[skip]

beyond the horizon

[domain]

Hello again,

Horizon?

[Don]

Hi, Domain.

When a person is having repeated thoughts they don't like, or thoughts that manifest in unwanted behaviors, a trained hypnotherapist deals with them in different ways, depending upon the type of thinking involved.

In some cases, the emotional impact is separated from the thoughts so a person can still have the thoughts but they don't bother the person. In some cases the thoughts are simply replaced by stronger interests. As a comparison, when you were very young, you probably had a toy or TV show you really liked. But now that you're older you have other interests and no longer care about those earlier fixations. Hypnotherapy may do the same thing, depending upon the thought.

As you can see, there is not a single answer. I've presented two answers, and there are others, too. It depends upon the specific unwanted thought.

So what specific thought do you want to "omit?"

[Connie]

Into the bad thought catcher.

http://www.native-americans.org/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/decal-bw-black-dreamcatcher.jpg

[Simple Guy]

Connie,

The picture is that of the deluxe bad thought/dream catcher model.

[Connie]

Yesterday I was working with a client, and had gotten him "under" when all of a sudden this gardener with an INCREDIBLY loud leaf blower appeared outside my window. I told the client the sound was his bad/worrisome thoughts being blown away from his mind, like autumn leaves on the ground, no longer needed, to make way for new growth, new thoughts, new patterns, new ideas, new ways of being and so on.... So, HIS bad thoughts ended up in the mulch heap.

[Simple Guy]

Connie,

Good utilization.

[Terry]

Domain, since you know little about hypnosis, you may see my questions to be off topic, but they are not.....
Who are you? What are you? Why do you ask the question? A proper reply for YOU depends on your answers, since any reply given in a vacuum will not be satisfactory no matter how knowledgeable the respondent may be.
Connie's reply would be excellent for a native of this continent. Don's reply would be fine for someone with some knowledge of hypnosis, and Skip's reply was one I would make if I decided that it was a silly, time wasting question, asked out of bordom.

[skip]

yes.

As they approach the horizon they get further and further away, smaller and smaller, and more indistinct, until they just 'drop' off the edge of the earth.

Gone.

skip

ps: That would be three analog and one digital submodality shift, to go.

[Poodle]

Agreed. Fantastic utilization! Pood :)

[Poodle]

turn into jeweled little lights that go farther and farther away into the distance and grow smaller and smaller and while at the very most distant end they bust into a beautiful display of jeweled lights of every color and "poof" disinigrate from all being forever

That's right.

Pood

[domain]

Hello everyone again,

Thank you buds for the replies you have listed above, "questions might be quick/packed answered to some and quiet without an answer to many" what if I wanted to retrieve a memory that I may have lost,would it be possible to do it vice-versa, or is it forever gone?

[Connie]

Is this hypothetical, or are you talking about yourself? Why didn't you answer Terry's excellent questions? You seem to be saying that a therapist helped you "omit"/delete thoughts/memories, and now you want them back and you would like to know if they can be retrieved with hypnosis? Is that correct?

If you are working with a therapist, I'd suggest addressing your questions to him/her first.

[domain]

Is this hypothetical, or are you talking about yourself? Why didn't you answer Terry's excellent questions? You seem to be saying that a therapist helped you "omit"/delete thoughts/memories, and now you want them back and you would like to know if they can be retrieved with hypnosis? Is that correct?

If you are working with a therapist, I'd suggest addressing your questions to him/her first.
From my own perspective; thoughts are connected to people and places, removing one thought or a memory would make a change in behavior to-wards those people in general.With time some people that I were interested in knowing, dealing with, those who were connected to such a memory, hypothetically; are no longer there,or being unconsciously ignored, giving a bad impression, about me, my business.. etc..Nice to meet you Terry!

[Connie]

Well, since you didn't answer my question, either...I can't help you.

Next morning here, putting on my reading glasses...I see you did answer my question, in your heading. :) I think Don below has given you a good theoretical answer.

[pmdigi]

Hello everyone again,

Thanks for the replies you guys have listed above, well the question sounds like in a way someone asking where do souls go after death, might be quick answered for some and quiet without an answer to many, there are always packed answers you know, well then how about if i wanted to retrieve a memory that I have lost,would it be possible to do it visa-versa, or thoughts omitted (deleted) are gone forever?
My guess is the memories and deleted thoughts are still in your unconscious. Your attention is on something else. If you want to retrieve them, you can; since they were "negative", maybe you might want to think about what you would rather "replace" them with.

[Don]

... if i wanted to retrieve a memory that I have lost,would it be possible to do it visa-versa, or thoughts omitted (deleted) are gone forever?

Think of it like a computer and each memory is a file. It's stored somewhere on your hard drive. Even though you don't use it, it's still there. But as more and more files and applications fill your hard drive, it becomes more and more difficult to find. You might not even remember that it's there.

So you call a technician who has trained for years to do what is called "computer forensics." They know how to dig through the hard drive and find lost files, sometimes even if they have been erased years ago.

For the mind, the technician who helps you find lost memories is known as a hypnotherapist. :D

[Terry]

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Terry, sorry I don't know you that well to answer your questions!
Fair enough, and I don;t know enough about you to give you a satisfactory reply, but I do wonder why you ask questions of strangers you don;t feel you can trust. Would you tell a doctor whom you know little of. "doc. I have a pain, but since I don;t know you very well, I would like you to guess what is wrong because I don;t want to tell you were the pain is"? If not your reply is not aceptable, and if so, I hate to say what that says about you.....:(

[Mentalius]

In my humble opinion, thoughts stay right where they are. The emotional charge on those thoughts dissolves.

[Soren K (existing)]

where do bad thoughts go?


This is my own view - so well, disagreement might follow, which is fair enough :) First thoughts are not entities, so they don't go anywhere. However, thinking of them as 'on the go' is a useful metaphor. Thoughts, actually simply happen at a time. That they do so is captured in reflection/reflecting. However, if a sequence of series of thoughts have happened for you, then you can make similar thoughts happen again or have entirely different ones. Although, just as you cannot step in the same river twice, so you cannot have the same thought twice. Nevertheless, the river is the River, sometimes a torrent appears, while some areas are calm. In some places the banks narrow and the river runs faster, while in the shallows sometimes the rocks make the water froth. Interesting to think that playing with the banks can smoothe out the torrents and putting up a damn can stop its flow all together. Interesting? Well maybe not, but practical if you've a city to save or some power to harness. Second, 'bad' is a value judgement. Value judgements are subjective preferences. Subjective preferences have no basis for being any more or less favourable than any other subjective preference. Thirdly, value judgements only happen in the present moment, so 'bad' thoughts do not technically even go anywhere in time. If they don't go anywhere in space or time, where do they go? Tis part of the beauty of the answers given here by Skip and Poodle and Connie and Don...

Soren

:)

[domain]

Hello again,

I might be more pessimistic about that & after all wondering; who's city of angels it's going to be?

[Soren K (existing)]

Hello again,

I might be more pessimistic about that and suggest that at the end of the day, who's city of angels it's going to be after all? :rolleyes:

Smoke your cigar however you want - at the end of the day who really cares?

[Henrik]

Speaking about 'time'...

It sure is an interesting concept and topic.

How we organize 'time' in our mind and the direct empowering or dis-empowering effect it has... well it's a real eye opener.

Henrik

[Poodle]

That is only because time really does not exist except for the meaning that each of us gives it. ;) Pood

[Merlin]

In general, thoughts do not go anywhere.
We merely change the client's perspective of the thought.
We call that 'reframing'

[domain]

Hi, Domain.

When a person is having repeated thoughts they don't like, or thoughts that manifest in unwanted behaviors, a trained hypnotherapist deals with them in different ways, depending upon the type of thinking involved.

In some cases, the emotional impact is separated from the thoughts so a person can still have the thoughts but they don't bother the person. In some cases the thoughts are simply replaced by stronger interests. As a comparison, when you were very young, you probably had a toy or TV show you really liked. But now that you're older you have other interests and no longer care about those earlier fixations. Hypnotherapy may do the same thing, depending upon the thought.

As you can see, there is not a single answer. I've presented two answers, and there are others, too. It depends upon the specific unwanted thought.

So what specific thought do you want to "omit?"

Got your point Don, then it's about replacing the annoying thought by a screen saver, quoting a computer example.

[domain]

"Talking" about generals, gosh, I'll make an Admiral if I saty here!

[Merlin]

Wrong outfit
only generals. no admirals.

[Don]

No. That's not it.

Let me give another analogy: radio.

Radio waves are waves of energy. The have to be modulated with data (usually in the form of talk or music) to be picked up on your radio.

Thus, what you get on your radio is composed of two parts, the wave and the data that modulates the wave.

Now, every past memory is composed of the memory of the event and the psychological impact of the event. One thing hypnotherapists do is allow people to get the information (the memory) without the psychological impact.

[domain]

May I please change my visa-versa to vice versa ?

Thanks Terry

[domain]

I don't smoke cigars.