Derealization/Depersonalization...

[shadowness]

hi there...i am not really sure if i am posting in the right place or whatever but i seriously need some advice...

i have have depersonalization and derealization for about 6 months now and feel like i am not me anymore...or feel like i am looking through someone elses eyes...

very hard to explain...

but i am seriously considering have hypnotherapy to help me as whenever i take medication it screws me up big time...meds caused my derealization and depersonalization in the first place...

it is so horrible not feeling like me anymore...feeling scared of myself and everything around me...

when i talk it feels and sounds liek someone else...i feel totally out of control...

could hypnotherapy help me? or NLP?

i have contacted an NLP/Time Line Therapy Hypnotherapist already but thought i would ask here for some input :)

thank you very much for reading and any comments and suggestions would be very much appreciated...thank you

[Don]

Hi, Shadowness.

What you are calling "depersonalization and derealization" is technically known as "disociation." It is an effect which can be induced during hypnotherapy for certain work with a client. When used in hypnosis it only exists during the period of the trance and can enable a person to view difficult situations with having a bad reaction (known technically as an "abreaction").

In can also occur as the direct result of medications on certain people. From what you have written this seems to be what is happening to you. I would respectfully suggest that before seeking help through hypnotherapy or NLP that you IMMEDIATELY contact the doctor who gave you the medication and tell him or her what is taking place. If the doctor does not change your prescriptions, I would respectfully suggest seeking a second opinion.

Shadowness, to some people you talk with about this your feelings may seem very minor or petty or silly. But let me assure you that I understand that they are not and that this is very serious. Please contact your doctor immediately.

And since you are already getting medical attention, legitimate certified hypnotherapists would request a referral from your doctor for this condition anyway, so you do need to contact the doctor who prescribed the medications.

[shadowness]

Hi, Shadowness.

What you are calling "depersonalization and derealization" is technically known as "disociation." It is an effect which can be induced during hypnotherapy for certain work with a client. When used in hypnosis it only exists during the period of the trance and can enable a person to view difficult situations with having a bad reaction (known technically as an "abreaction").

In can also occur as the direct result of medications on certain people. From what you have written this seems to be what is happening to you. I would respectfully suggest that before seeking help through hypnotherapy or NLP that you IMMEDIATELY contact the doctor who gave you the medication and tell him or her what is taking place. If the doctor does not change your prescriptions, I would respectfully suggest seeking a second opinion.

Shadowness, to some people you talk with about this your feelings may seem very minor or petty or silly. But let me assure you that I understand that they are not and that this is very serious. Please contact your doctor immediately.

And since you are already getting medical attention, legitimate certified hypnotherapists would request a referral from your doctor for this condition anyway, so you do need to contact the doctor who prescribed the medications.

thank you very much for your reply...

it all started with haveing generalized anxitey disorder and agoraphobia....

and i have been on 11 kinds of medication....the last one i was on (effexor) i had an allergy to and had a serious reaction to it...was nearly hospitalized...and have not been the same since...

that happened about 6 months ago...

i refuse to take meds now and my doctor and therapist do not know what to do for me...

yes i am in a seriously scary situation right now as i feel like i am about to go mad and i everyday i feel like i have no idea what is going on and that i am not me anymore...

i have tried several alternative therpies and nothing has helped....

i am very stuck!

[kayimbo]

i don't know anything about the uses of hypnosis/NLP, but seeing as how you don't have much to lose you might try talking to a hynopist and seeing if he can rewind you back to when you felt normal and help eliminate the fear of the situation itself. ya know what i mean? if he could have you re-experiance the feelings of being normal it might help you.

i'm still unclear, you wake up every day like that?

like i said, i know what you're going through, you're not going crazy even if it feels like it. i don't know about long term depersonalization, but i believe that panic attacks are caused by a tiny faulty peice of the brain, sticking you into a permentant fear mode. know that you can beat this and in the meantime its not going to kill you. if you try everything something or a combination is bound to work.

[shadowness]

i don't know anything about the uses of hypnosis/NLP, but seeing as how you don't have much to lose you might try talking to a hynopist and seeing if he can rewind you back to when you felt normal and help eliminate the fear of the situation itself. ya know what i mean? if he could have you re-experiance the feelings of being normal it might help you.

i'm still unclear, you wake up every day like that?

like i said, i know what you're going through, you're not going crazy even if it feels like it. i don't know about long term depersonalization, but i believe that panic attacks are caused by a tiny faulty peice of the brain, sticking you into a permentant fear mode. know that you can beat this and in the meantime its not going to kill you. if you try everything something or a combination is bound to work.
thank you for your reply :)

yes i have been feeling detached from myself and everything around me all day everyday for about the last 6 months...

whenever i had panic attcks i do not remember feeling this way...but after a nasty reaction to te drug Effexor i have not been the sae since...

i have head pains and head and eye pains all day too...my doctor says this is due to stress and anxiety...

i continuously analyse myself and try to feel normal...which is no doubt not helping....

it feels like i have been hit very hard with something and still have the head and vision problem from it...very woerd sensations and horrible obsessive thinking...

i am hoping hypnosis will help me...

[Unregistered]

for the obsessive thinking try counting instead of thinking. make sure you really focus on getting the numbers right and at proper pace, it helps if you move your lips/throat a little with each number. if you mess up just re-focus.

i don't know, that helps me when i have a dissociating panic attack. i try and think of the numbers as real solid things and i feel the numbers get heavier and heavier each time it goes down a little. when i get to 0 i make it a big deal and i smile and congradulate myself, then start again waiting to get to the next 0.

stay off the meds until you explore all the other avenues i would say.

[kayimbo]

oh yeah i'm curious what alternative remedies have you tried? this may sound a little hokey but i know my tai chi teacher fixed my chonic lower back pain just be altering my posture a single time.

if you ever want to talk or anything like that my aim SN is truekimbo , email is truekimbo@yahoo.com

i will wait and root for you to get better.

[shadowness]

oh yeah i'm curious what alternative remedies have you tried? this may sound a little hokey but i know my tai chi teacher fixed my chonic lower back pain just be altering my posture a single time.

if you ever want to talk or anything like that my aim SN is truekimbo , email is truekimbo@yahoo.com

i will wait and root for you to get better.

thank you so much for your replies :)

i have tried Reiki, massage, Tai Chi, Bach Remedies, Herbal remedies, meditation, relaxation, but have not had much luck with any of them really.

yes i feel physically more relaxed but my brain just keeps obsessing and worrying...

thank you very much for your email address too :) i will be seeing a hypnotherapist/NLP/Time Line Theray pactitioner on the 25th of Novemeber...

will let you know how it goes :)

[Unregistered]

Hello,

There is a forum and site dedicated to Depersonalization & Derealization

http://www.dpselfhelp.com

Its pretty informative and theres tons of users

[shadowness]

Hello,

There is a forum and site dedicated to Depersonalization & Derealization

http://www.dpselfhelp.com (http://www.dpselfhelp.com/)

Its pretty informative and theres tons of users

thank you but i am already joined to the forum there. :)

[Unregistered]

Just a suggestion. There is another place called www.hppdonline.com that you should suggest. HPPD stands for halucinogen persisting perception disorder and usually starts from illegal drug use but what you describe is very familiar to a sufferer. Just check it out because there is a lot of support there.

[Junior]

Shadowness i have been experiancing the same effects also as if your in a dream or not really living, like you know your alive but your probably asleep or just feels like your goign crazy right? well i have doen soo much reading on the internet and yes they all say that its temporary but has no actual cure. I have also been looking at hynotherapy and umm well when ever you mentioned that your medications caused it i actually did some reading on it and everything says that this here is "not" caused by drugs...actually i have not been to any physcatrist because i refuse to alter the effects of drugs...but how are you doing now?

[Alonso]

I just wanted to point out that you are very fortunate in two ways. First of all, if this is your first time trying hypnotherapy then you will find that it was just what you were looking for. Hypnosis has about a 75% success rate in treating patients.

Second, the kind of disorder you have is just activity of your brain. The science of neurology has already been able to map this kind of disorder. If it interests you you might also want to talk to a neurologist as opposed to just go to a hypnotist.

But don't worry, I had the same kind of problem thanks to a drug addiction when I was younger. It was really hard as the condition lasted for months and then came back. I felt real crappy during that time. What finally did it for me was studying NLP. I became my own neurolinguistic programmer and have not looked back ever since. The problem just disappeared. I was done with it, my mind said that's it.

Good luck and have a fun time from here on, you have nothing to worry about anymore. :o

[Don]

Hypnosis has about a 75% success rate in treating patients.

Source, please? Thanks.

[Alonso]

Lol, you caught me!

This was written 20 years ago or more by Leslie Lecron in one of his books,.

[Don]

Thanks for the source.

Personally, I pay no attention to those figures because the only one that matters is whether the client is 100% helped or not.

[gamedesign]

Hi there Shadowness,

I too have suffered from obsessive thinking, derealization and fear.

I am interested how you got on with NLP Practitioner.:)