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Gnosis
11-03-2007, 07:17 PM
What are the main differences between hypnosis and nlp?

Docresults
11-03-2007, 07:20 PM
What are the main differences between hypnosis and nlp?

With a handle like Gonsis you should understand this...

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Gnosis
11-03-2007, 07:22 PM
Well, one attains true gnosis by understanding and practice. At this point I am asking for understanding.

Thank you for your reply.

Connie
11-03-2007, 07:56 PM
My teachers say that 80% or so of NLP is based on hypnosis and the work of Milton Erickson. They (Bandler & Grinder) examined what he (Erickson) did naturally and broke it down into the patterns we know and use in NLP.

skip
11-04-2007, 03:36 AM
The main difference is that Hypnosis uses, almost exclusively, language; to elicit a state where you are very receptive to well phrased suggestions. Trance is a rather formal and prolonged experience

NLP does this as well, but in addition takes advantage of the subjective neurological pathways, and makes behavioral changes by manipulating those pathways. Trance is considered a naturally occurring phenomena and is recognized and taken advantage of when it spontaneously occurrs even if only momentarily.

For me, NLP is hypnosis on steroids, plus more.

skip

Connie
11-04-2007, 07:35 AM
NLP is hypnosis on steroids

May I use that?? I love it.

Simple Guy
11-04-2007, 08:35 AM
Hi Skip,

Well, trance can be but need not be a "rather formal and prolonged
experience," as you know. :)

Merlin
11-04-2007, 09:08 AM
Well, hypnosis is like an airplane.
NLP is like a Jet plane.

Poodle
11-04-2007, 10:49 AM
Great question and often "mystified". Hypnosis is generally "therapy". NLP is not. NLP gives you the tools to run your own brain. NLP gives you choices to feel great. NLP does not let you wallow in the past as we really don't care. We care about now and every moment from now filled with better and happier choices which equal personal freedom in every sense of the word.

Contrary to what some teachers may say, NLP is not 80% based on Ericksonian hypnosis. That is only a piece in the large expanse of NLP. NLP was based on what works from the beginning, not creating a model to present to the world to see if it works or not. NLP is based on mathematical formulas and as such is 100% true 100% of the time. NLP is based on advanced language skills to advance and enhance your life, your career, your relationships to just plain old feeling great for no reason at all because that is what you really deserve.

NLP is separated into two parts - skills and applications.

If you want to know the "roots" of NLP, they are listed in the bibliography of Structure of Magic I. Feel free to read them. Pood

Don
11-04-2007, 01:13 PM
Well, hypnosis is like an airplane.
NLP is like a Jet plane.

The thing is, if a person doesn't know how to fly a jet but can fly a propeller-driven airplane, you'll get a lot farther in the airplane than in a jet.

Of course, if you don't know where to land, it doesn't matter how good of a pilot you are. Chances are you'll never get there.

Nigel H
11-05-2007, 02:18 AM
Hia

I would like to add that NLP can be used for therapy and there are many language patterns and techniques that do get used in that way. Simply using the Meta Model can have therapeutic effect ...... and in the course of a therapy based session, the NLP language patterns for conversational change and questioning form an important part of the outcome.

Temporal language and the Meta Model III can be used directly in a therapeutic way, for example, to assist someone in getting beyond that old problem and make unconscious changes now. Shifting submodalities can also be used to change beliefs and help remove unwanted patterns of behaviour/thinking. There are other ways too .... and those trained in Hypnotherapy and Time Line may prefer other techniques due to their own comfort and/or effectiveness of the method. I guess there are preferences that most people may well have, but there are pure NLP Practitioners who do forms of Therapy. I think it just depends on the ability/congruence of the practitioner concerned in conjunction with the client's needs.

It may be that Pood meant this differently, so I would ask for clarification there please Pood, or is it that you do not use it in such a way personally?!

Nig

Terry
12-02-2007, 08:21 PM
So hypnosis is more for relaxation and NLP is more for mindshifting and therapy?
No it is not. Hypnosis is for therapy

Poodle
12-03-2007, 09:40 AM
Thanking you for your support in Forum rules.

Stay well,
Pood

Don
12-03-2007, 08:57 PM
So hypnosis is more for relaxation and NLP is more for mindshifting and therapy?

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