Help, New to Hypnotism.

[ryanmorgan001]

Hey all, first post

I am new to hypnotism and would like the ability to hypnotise people just for my own intrest in the field. Im not at this moment wanting to become a hypnopheripist but would like to learn a little.

This does seem to be a serious forum for those in the career of hypnosis. So I dont want to take you away from more important issues I just want to learn a little.

Now Im most interested in instant or rapid inductions but have failed to sucessfully do one as of yet. (Although I have only tried on my brother.)

Now Ive watched a programme called top gear and although not a programme about hypnotism on one episode it did feature Paul Mckenna who hypnotised one of the co-stars. The video is found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Z3XF7DJ9k

I am most interested in doing this as " party tricks" so to speak and I want to know how?? Ive watched videos read e-books but it just doesnt work.

Could anyone give me a begginners lesson?

I hope this is not to much to ask

Ryan

[Don]

Unfortunately, Ryan, the practice of hypnosis is far too complex to teach someone in a forum such as this. There's not enough space or time. That's why many of us suggest that people go to professional trainings.

However, I can give you some tips and ideas.

1) There are two major directions in the use of hypnosis. The first is hypnotherapy. That's where a thoroughly trained hypnotist is able to help someone quickly and easily change their behaviors. Smoking cessation is one example. The other major direction is known as Stage Hypnosis. That's what most people see and where many people get their conceptions and misconceptions about hypnosis. From what you are describing, it sounds as if you are interested in Stage Hypnosis. Good for you! Some hypnotherapists don't like stage hypnotists. Personally, I think there's room for everyone.

2) To learn more I would suggest that you get the "bible" of stage hypnosis. It's called The New Encyclopedia of Stage Hypnotism by Ormond McGill.

3) One of the keys to being able to hypnotize someone is that they must trust you completely. This is known as "rapport." Most hypnotists know this. However, what is usually left out is that the person you are trying to hypnotize must trust you completely as a hypnotist. People who begin studying hypnosis often try working with friends and relatives. They know you as a buddy or as a brother, sister, cousin, etc., and usually don't even think of you as a hypnotist. As a result, hypnotizing a close friend or relative is actually more difficult for beginners! That's one reason we suggest taking a class or workshop. You'll meet lots of people there who only know you as someone in training to be a hypnotist.

4) Doing rapid or instant inductions (contrary to what some might tell you) are actually very easy to do. In fact, they're as easy to do as it is for you to walk down the street. But have you ever seen a toddler learning to walk? They struggle, they barely get started, they fall down. Today, after many years of practice, you've learned to walk easily so you don't think about all the things that are going on and which you struggled so hard to learn where you were very young.

The same is true of learning to hypnotize. Most of the time, people are trained with longer, more elaborate inductions, often of the type known as "progressive relaxation." During the time a person learns these techniques the budding hypnotist is also learning what to watch for, subtle things such as the look in a person's eyes, their breathing pattern, even their pulse. When you learn all of those things and put them together, doing rapid or instant inductions is as easy as walking. But before walking you have to fumble around, fall down and get up repeatedly.

So to sum up:
You want to learn stage hypnosis and so you should get the book I recommended. Practicing on friends and family is difficult, and before learning rapid or instant inductions you should learn the longer inductions for all of the information about inductions that entails.

Good luck!

[Poodle]

You write as if in the UK. Please check Dr. Matt's schedule (probably down at the bottom is a link to American Pacific University). He, or a member of his staff can give you a "taster course" on hypnosis with practice on other students. I do believe they go to London.

You have to walk before you can run, and unlike Don, I do not include progressive relaxation as it's one of my pet peeves in life. Also, if you want to learn some interesting inductions, there is a small but expensive book, Trance-Formation by Bandler & Grinder. In the beginning is the idiot proof 5-4-3-2-1 Induction and as the book progresses the inductions become more difficult to master but are totally elegant.

Even this summer I spent $200 to buy an induction with the promise of never teaching it. We are ALL CONSTANTLY UPDATING, LEARNING AND CONTINUNING OUR EDUCATIONS. It's a super kewl world so welcome to it.
Learn right and have a lot of fun!

You may also like to take a peek at Merlin's FAQ's and book list. She does all - an amazing stage hypnotist and clinical hypnotherapist, just to name a couple of her talents.

Pood :)

[Connie]

Nice essay, Don! :)

[ryanmorgan001]

Ok,
So it is more difficult to hypnotise somebody than once thought.
London is a very long drive for me so I cant really do that but thankyou.

My aim really is just do put somebody into a trance quickly like a stage hypnotist would do. Is there only a certain amount of the population that can be hypnotised quickly or is it all if you are a good enough hypnotist?

Does anyone here have a script that has the entire hypnotism session on there and if I read it out and did it correctly would it work?

Also, is it a matter of how much the person trusts you? and if you get them to trust you enough it would be easy for them to go into a hypnotic trance?

Anymore advice or suggestions would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. Thankyou already to Don and Poodle

Ryan

[Terry]

Ryan,think of Hypnosis as medicine of the mind. Those who practise it, even Stage Hypnotists spend hundreds of dollars, and hours learning and practising before they are capable of using it publicly.
Would you ask your doctor to loan you a tape so you could learn just enough to use a scalpel to remove a bothersome spot? If not, you just asked us that same question. Now you could read about hypnosis for years on a daily basis, and still not be able to use it, so unless you are serious enough to spend both time and money to become proficient, stop dreaming and spend more time studying to complete your education and become what you want as an adult... That way, who knows, you might reasurect that dream one day and really do something about it...
Oh dear, I may just have given you an Hypnotic suggestion...:) I wonder if that will lead to University, and then to a study of our art?

[Poodle]

London is a very long drive for me so I cant really do that but thankyou.
Really? In the USA we take airplanes and fly from coasts to coasts. I really don't believe all of England is too much bigger than where I live. We think "nothing" about driving from one end to the other. Thus, not a valid excuse.

My aim really is just do put somebody into a trance quickly like a stage hypnotist would do. Is there only a certain amount of the population that can be hypnotised quickly or is it all if you are a good enough hypnotist
Everyone can be hypnotized instantly. It's the skill of the hypnotist, not the client.

Does anyone here have a script that has the entire hypnotism session on there and if I read it out and did it correctly would it work?
NO because the person you would be using it with is a different person than the one it was written for.

Also, is it a matter of how much the person trusts you? and if you get them to trust you enough it would be easy for them to go into a hypnotic trance?
YES! BUT TRUST=RAPPORT AND RAPPORT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LEARNED, PREFERABLY IN A CLASS.

Ryan, have you even bothered to read the back pages of this Forum or Merlin's FAQ's? You seem to me to want instant gratification and it just ain't gonna happen. We have spent tens of thousands of dollars on trainings not to mention books, CD's, DVD's etc. Do you really think if it were that easy, we would have gone the long route?

Perhaps you would like someone to send you a script and some tools to be a dentist through the net to drill and fill at your pleasure? Perhaps you would like someone to send you a knife, thread and needle through the net with a script so you can do a simple appendectomy.

There is an old saying: When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.

Stay well,
Pood

[Don]

Hi, Ryan.

Ok,
So it is more difficult to hypnotise somebody than once thought.
London is a very long drive for me so I cant really do that but thankyou.

England has one of the greatest train systems in the world. When I was in London I used the train often. It is fast and efficient. I remember one time taking the train to visit Uri Geller at his home in a very small town far from London. I find it difficult to believe that there is not a train station near you.

My aim really is just do put somebody into a trance quickly like a stage hypnotist would do. Is there only a certain amount of the population that can be hypnotised quickly or is it all if you are a good enough hypnotist?

Everyone can quickly be hypnotized. But not every hypnotist can hypnotize everyone. Sounds weird, huh? Okay, here's another tip: The hypnotist does not "put" anyone into a trance. Hypnosis is based on cooperation between the hypnotist and the person being hypnotized. If they don't cooperate, it doesn't happen. Thus, the hypnotist merely guides the subject into hypnotizing himself or herself. In other words, all hypnosis is self-hypnosis. The hypnotist merely guides the process. But if the hypnotist and subject don't get along very well, the subject is far less likely to allow himself or herself to go into trance.

Does anyone here have a script that has the entire hypnotism session on there and if I read it out and did it correctly would it work?

Leading a person into hypnosis isn't similar to waving a magic wand. That is, reading a script isn't like waving a wand and having something happen. There are many scripts on the internet that you can find. But even if you "did it correctly" (whatever that means) it would not work for you. There is a big difference between doing a script correctly and hypnotizing people.

Also, is it a matter of how much the person trusts you? and if you get them to trust you enough it would be easy for them to go into a hypnotic trance?

As pointed out, they have to be in rapport with you, be attuned to you. "Trust" is a way to superficially describe this to non-hypnotists. No, it's not merely getting them to trust you. Just because they trust you enough to loan you £500 doesn't mean they trust you as an expert hypnotist.

Anymore advice or suggestions would be very helpful and greatly appreciated.

If you really want it, you can get it. If you really want it, you won't come up with reasons (another words for "excuses") that you can't. Might it be a hardship to get training? Yep. It's a hardship for many people who choose to face the hardships and do it. But if you really want it, that's the next step. Or begin by ordering the book I recommended. You don't have to drive anywhere to order a book through the post.

Go for it! I have confidence that you can do it. Do you?

[Terry]

Like so many of our posters, Ryan I suspect is still at school, and has no access to money, and little time to spare if he is to pass his exams. I hope he retains his dream until such time as he can really do something about it, in which case he might well decide to be serious about therapy once he knows enough to make such a decission....Until then, dream on youngun, not all dreams can be attained instantly. I was almost forty before I took my first course of training....:)

[Jack]

In the 'Top Gear' episode you mention Richard Hammond was pre-hypnotised by Paul and what you saw was simply a post hypnotic suggestion being triggered. We have no idea whether or not Paul used an instant or rapid induction to install the suggestion.

Many people are interested in using hypnosis to impress their friends. They often do it witrhout any training whatsoever, since the actual process of hypnosis is easy to learn. Ask yourself what would happen if you learnt hypnosis, tried it out on a friend at a party and then were unable to control the effects. What if your friend became angry, abusive, violent or tearful and when they emerged from the 'trance' you had altered their life in a detrimental way? That alteration could easily have a bad effect upon your life too.

Hypnosis is not a party trick. If you think it is then go ahead, and be prepared for the consequences. Of course there might not be any. You might get lucky. Then again, you might not.

At the very least get some hands on training before you mess about with other people.

Jack

[ryanmorgan001]

To learn more I would suggest that you get the "bible" of stage hypnosis. It's called The New Encyclopedia of Stage Hypnotism by Ormond McGill.


I shall go and buy this book. I was recommended "Deeper and Deeper" by Jon Chase but after reading reviews I can see this one is better. Thankyou.

You write as if in the UK. Please check Dr. Matt's schedule (probably down at the bottom is a link to American Pacific University). He, or a member of his staff can give you a "taster course" on hypnosis with practice on other students. I do believe they go to London.

As Terry stated I am in university studying at the moment and as such do not have much time nor money to spend. Although in the future I might just take a course. Thanks.

London is a very long drive for me so I cant really do that but thankyou.
Really? In the USA we take airplanes and fly from coasts to coasts. I really don't believe all of England is too much bigger than where I live. We think "nothing" about driving from one end to the other. Thus, not a valid excuse.

Yes you do have a very valid point there. It is just an excuse, I will try to take a course at some point.

Ryan, have you even bothered to read the back pages of this Forum or Merlin's FAQ's? You seem to me to want instant gratification and it just ain't gonna happen. We have spent tens of thousands of dollars on trainings not to mention books, CD's, DVD's etc. Do you really think if it were that easy, we would have gone the long route?

To be fair no I havent really searched this forum in great depth. Although I have researched on the internet and downloaded some ebooks. I really wanted to see how difficult it was. I didnt realise how much time an effort it really takes. It really does show how good you guys really are.

Like I said above I will buy the book and reaserch from that for a while. Apart from that there really isnt much more I can do at this point but in the future I certainly will. Thanks.

Everyone can quickly be hypnotized. But not every hypnotist can hypnotize everyone. Sounds weird, huh? Okay, here's another tip: The hypnotist does not "put" anyone into a trance. Hypnosis is based on cooperation between the hypnotist and the person being hypnotized. If they don't cooperate, it doesn't happen. Thus, the hypnotist merely guides the subject into hypnotizing himself or herself. In other words, all hypnosis is self-hypnosis. The hypnotist merely guides the process. But if the hypnotist and subject don't get along very well, the subject is far less likely to allow himself or herself to go into trance.

This really is confusing but this has really clarified something for me here Don. Thanks for your continued assitance.

If you really want it, you can get it. If you really want it, you won't come up with reasons (another words for "excuses") that you can't. Might it be a hardship to get training? Yep. It's a hardship for many people who choose to face the hardships and do it. But if you really want it, that's the next step. Or begin by ordering the book I recommended. You don't have to drive anywhere to order a book through the post.

Go for it! I have confidence that you can do it. Do you?

Your 100% right there. Like ive said I shall be ordering that book and Im sure that will help me and I will certainly try to continue on from there.

In the 'Top Gear' episode you mention Richard Hammond was pre-hypnotised by Paul and what you saw was simply a post hypnotic suggestion being triggered. We have no idea whether or not Paul used an instant or rapid induction to install the suggestion.

He did mention being "pre-hypnotised" so I do think it was a post hypnotic suggestion, thanks.

Ask yourself what would happen if you learnt hypnosis, tried it out on a friend at a party and then were unable to control the effects. What if your friend became angry, abusive, violent or tearful and when they emerged from the 'trance' you had altered their life in a detrimental way? That alteration could easily have a bad effect upon your life too.

You're right there and I have read something about that. I will be studying it first and understanding what to do before I do try it.

Hypnosis is not a party trick. If you think it is then go ahead, and be prepared for the consequences. Of course there might not be any. You might get lucky. Then again, you might not.

At the very least get some hands on training before you mess about with other people.

I did used to think that it was a "party trick" but this was awhile ago I now understand that it is a Therapy or an Entertainment Stage show and both take lots of training to perfect and also lots of money. So I will make sure that when I do try something I will understand exactly what I am doing. You have my word.

Thankyou to all here that have helped me. I will continue researching and learning and might take some training in the near future. I have ordered the book and it may take some time to get here. Thankyou again. If you want to give me anymore advice you would think of use then please do post it here. I shall be back again.

Ryan

[Don]

Just one thing I want to add, Ryan. You wrote that both major directions of hypnosis "take lots of training to perfect and also lots of money."

Actually, learning to hypnotize is easy and quick. Any good hypnotist can teach a technique or two to another person in one session.

The thing that takes lots of study and practice is what the hypnotist does after he or she has hypnotized someone. The more you study, practice, and train, the more you learn.

However, once you are trained in the basics, much of the study can be done through books, and many of the books can be had through libraries, through second-hand bookstores, or through on-line discounters. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money. Collecting coins or model railroads can cost much more.

[ryanmorgan001]

Well £31 on a book to start seems to be a good investment.
Thanks Again Don

[gus1955]

You might try to check out [HMI] ..... It is a very cool site and it's free to take the course. I like Free. They have a great past life regression course that I just took and it was interesting.

[mindflip]

Ryan
Just out of curiosity which city are you based in or nearest major city

cheers