Weight Loss & Hypnosis

[atlgal]

I am thining about going to a Hypnosis treatment seminar for weight loss. Has anyone ever done this? Are these seminars a scam? This particular one is being done by James E. Womack. Any advice would be most appreciated!

[Frog420]

go for it, at worst you'll blow some money that would have only gone on crisps, just kidding, why not seek out a private hypnotherapist, that way you'll get a session esspecially tailored to suit you. and you'll be able to go back without having to wait for the next seminar to roll into town :)

Chris

[Unregistered]

Hey Atlgal -

I just received info. in the mail for the same seminar by James E. Womack offered in early December. I'm curious if you attended and if it worked.

Thanks!

[Don]

Greetings to Atigal and our unregistered guest.

There is a difference between hypnotherapy and traditional Western medicine in the attitude of the professional to the client. To Western doctors, if you have a problem you are treated the same as millions of other people with that problem. With hypnotherapy, you are treated as a unique individual.

In the case of weight control, this means that each person has his or her own motivations and reasons for being at an undesired weight.

Videos, cassettes, CDs, and seminars may be very successful IF your individual maotivations and reasons match those that are specifically dealt with during the presentation. I regret to say, however, that if they don't match you may not have as much success.

Seminars, tapes, etc. bring a lot of money to those putting them on, and they do help some of the people. I can't give you a number of how many successes result in a room of 100 people. But I would think you should only be interested in one success--yours--not that of 99 other people.

So I have to partially agree with Frog420. Even the worst case is that you will learn some skills that you may be able to adapt to help you. The best case is that you will obtain the skills to manage your weight.

I do agree that you will probably have much better and more rapid succes if you seek a certified clinical hypnotherapist. He or she can discover exactly what you need and tailor sessions for you.

Good luck! Report after report has shown that hypnosis aids in wait management more easily and effectively than any other system.

[Terry (existing)]

I can ream off six different reasons for obesity without pause. I have grave doubts that anyone offering a seminar type treatment will deal with all of them, and most likely will deal with only one, "overeating", which in fact is the least likely to be your problem. I would therefor hazard a guess that one in ten will get benifit from such a method, unless of course it is a one day seminar, in which case the only person to benifit is the person offering it.... On the other hand, I do have a magic wand for sale, you just put it on your fridge, and watch the weight disapear on a daily basis.....(EG)

[Unregistered]

Thank you for your replies. It's always helpful to get someone else’s opinion; it puts things in perspective.

Now regarding the magic wands mentioned in the last post......I'll take a dozen! :D

Thanks!
Susan

[Terry (existing)]

Wands shipped via pony express. Should arrive tomorrow. (G) Terry

[Unregistered]

I am going tonight to the seminar, has anyone attended? Do you think it was worth it? Any feedback is appreciated.

[Unregistered]

Hey Unregistered,

How did it go on the 8th? I am going to the same one on the 14th.

[Daniel]

I guess unregistered didn't survive... or is still in trance... lol

[Unregistered]

Hi! I went one of the seminars on November 30th for smoking cessation and weight loss. I have always been able to lose weight easier than it was for me to quit smoking so I figured I would at least be thinner while I killed my lungs. The odd thing was that from that day on I have been a non-smoker. But honestly, as far as weight control, I have gained. I mainly wanted the weight control part to help me to not gain once I quit smoking, and it hasn't helped at all. As far as smoking, I urge everyone to at least try it. For weight loss, I don't think that this one was worth it.

[Unregistered]

Hi! I went one of the seminars on November 30th for smoking cessation and weight loss. I have always been able to lose weight easier than it was for me to quit smoking so I figured I would at least be thinner while I killed my lungs. The odd thing was that from that day on I have been a non-smoker. But honestly, as far as weight control, I have gained. I mainly wanted the weight control part to help me to not gain once I quit smoking, and it hasn't helped at all. As far as smoking, I urge everyone to at least try it. For weight loss, I don't think that this one was worth it.
People naturally put on weight when they cease smoking as eating forms a natural displacement activity for smoking as thy both involve oral consumption, but the connection between the two behaviours was clearly not addressed during the session, hence it is still possible.

Now, why would he not address that connection? Perhaps this was a freebie that does something useful, thereby ensuring you're likely to buy his subsequent book on weight loss :) Did you fill in a personal details form?

[Don]

I think that unregistered, while accurate, has missed a couple of points.

1) When people smoke regularly, their skin becomes dehydrated. Long-time smokers often get permanent wrinkles as a result of this. However, when you stop smoking (assuming that the skin has not yet been permanently damaged), the body naturally rehydrates, returning to what should be a normal state. Therefore, it is normal for a person to gain 3-5 pounds, replacing the unhealthy lack of hydration. This can be dealt with (assuming that the client doesn't like their new look) with temporary diet alteration and/or an increase in exercise.

2) You are absolutely correct about the oral thing. However, not being there, it is impossible to guess whether or not alternative replacements were given to take the place of the lost oral activity (and other ritualistic ideas such as lighting the cigarette, etc.). It may be that this was not covered or replacement activities either didn't appeal to the person who attended the session or were not firmly embedded into their subconscious.

This is one of the difficulties that results from such sessions. They simply can't work every attendee's individual needs into the group instructions.

My suggestion: immediately contact the person or organization that put on the seminar. My guess is that they will be willing to help you in a quick and effective way.

[Jack]

Hello Terry,

Have to disagree with you. I think obesity is the result of overeating, in the main. The reasons for the overeating are, however, many and diverse, but ultimately if you don't put it in...

Jack

[Unregistered]

Hello Terry,

Have to disagree with you. I think obesity is the result of overeating, in the main. The reasons for the overeating are, however, many and diverse, but ultimately if you don't put it in...

Jack
As I started reading the above the telephone rang. It was a friend wishing me a belated Happy Christmas. As luck would have it, he's a general practitioner, so I asked the question. He says the incidence of glandular obesity is indeed remarkably low, despite his patients' claims to the contrary.

[Terry (existing)]

Hello Terry,

Have to disagree with you. I think obesity is the result of overeating, in the main. The reasons for the overeating are, however, many and diverse, but ultimately if you don't put it in...

JackI promise we will still stay friends Jack(G)

If you look at the various methods of "weight loss" as it is mistakenly called, you will note that clients are encouraged to eat more than they usually do, but eat according to direction regarding what foods they eat.....eg weight watchers, TOPS, etc....
I bet you know of persons who eat only once each day and gain the inches regularly don't you? This is because the body reacts not only to the food we eat, but how and when we eat it, often storing energy in the form of fat because it is only being fed once each day and accepts that it is being starved because of lack of food. It then stores so that in the event that a real famine exists, it will be able to last longer.....
This is just one reason for obesity among many, but is a good indication that tapes won't work, and a good consultation is required to elicit the cause or causes of an individual's problem.........I have recently been considering going back into harness because of the drastic increase in obesity, and have been reinvestigating the research I did many years ago, though much of it I still remember... Apart from the above, wrong foods in disproportionate amounts, eating too fast to properly absorb the food and get all the energy out of it. Failure to excercise properly, and at the right times. All contribute to obesity, but not all to one person, or all the same for two persons, so the pretalk is vital for both client and practitioner....
Now I have no problem if you feel that I am off base, and I would be happy to persue this in case you have discovered some error in my theories. After all, if I do go back into practise, I want to get the best possible results for my clients, since I intend to charge very highly for my services, and train some of my grandchildren to do the same, since I won't be able to cope alone once word gets around that I'm back......Many of those I helped in the past are still around, and would be happy to recommend my services still, and my many slim and beautifull grandaughters would impress the new clients (EG)

[Merlin]

Terry (existing),
One more thing to consider:
There is no inherent requirement for the body to absorb every possible calorie.
It is possible for the body to absorb only what is needed and discard the rest.
That concept is not politically correct. Diet marketing companies hate the idea. But it's true.

It's nice to free your clients to not have calories control them.

[parsa]

I like Merlin's way of wieghtloss, body sculpting or whatever it's called a whole lot better. It sounds really fun:) .

[Terry (existing)]

I agree, but have an idea that this only happens when the body is functioning at peek, and when obesity exists it is not at it's best. Now I could be wrong of course, but your suggestion is just one more to add to the list of causes of obesity, and why it is so difficult to eradicate, which is why I am so against tapes....

[skip]

The bottom line to weight loss is burning more calories than you absorb.

Be careful, because that statement seems simple, it is, in reality, deceptive.

There are so many ways to accomplish the 'burn more calories than you absorb', anything from simply eating less, to eating the same and exercising more, to eating a lot and passing it all on thru the digestive tract (deliberate malabsorption), to strategies that boost your metabolism, that any number of methodologies are valid.

BUT the basic key to weight loss, real, permenant, substanative weight loss, is a complete self image and life "habit" change. You are wasting yout time if you make a temporary change in your behavior, and lose weight, if you are going to return to how you gained the weight in the first place.

You gained the weight in a trance to begin with, you can successfully lose it in a trance, but you will also need a new trance, to live in the rest of your life, if you want to keep it off.

skip

[Terry (existing)]

Words of wisdom, but just wait, the same question will pop up next week as if nothing had been said (G)

So many seem think that if they ask the same question in a different way, the ending will be different. It won't folks, hypnosis helps, but the real success comes from doing what is needed, with the help of a skilled person, and asking questions don't cut it.....

[Merlin]

Terry,

It's generally not a 'body function' issue.
It's a decision of the mind

[Cosmegoddess]

Howdy folks!

I stumbled up this site when I was researching James E. Womack, Hotel Hypnotist extraordinnaire! I didn't find anything so far that "disses" Mr. Womack. He supposedly offers a money back guarantee, but how on earth am I going to know if it worked today? The real test is out in the battlefield: Real Life.
I'm hoping for success because so far, I've had none. I do believe some folks are victims of a physical condition..in the main however, it is my personal belief that obesity and such are the results of behavioral problems. We are all so conditioned to think bigger is better, more isn't enough, whether we realize it or not. Our society is all about "Biggie Size"ing it, or Supersize...we're so on the go all the time, and WOW there is go so much out there working against us. Personally, I need to be "re-programmed" and for whatever reason have been unable to do it myself. I'm weak. Why? Who knows? I can't afford a private hypnotherapy session - most insurances don't cover it and I don't have $300 to risk on something that may not help. $40 I can deal with. It's better than spending it on crap.
Wish me luck - no, scratch that. Wish me success.
Thanks All!

-Cosmegoddess

[Don]

Hi, Cosegoddess.

First, I want to congratulate you. You are making a wonderful, positive move that will enhance and improve all levels of your life. Many people are unwilling to change, even if they know that what they'll change to is better. So you are not only being brave, but very unique. I'm sure you'll have great success.

Second, it is not the policy of this forum to comment on any particular hypnotherapist. If you do see posts about someone, that is a personal opinion by the author of the post.

And finally, I want you to know something very, very, weird. You're not weak at all! In fact, you're very strong. There's a part (or parts) of you within your subconscious mind that has come to the conclusion that you have a need for more pounds than you'd like to have. Even though your conscious mind say, "Stop! Reverse!" your unconscious is so strong that it just keeps on goin'. But hopefully in your seminar experience you'll get help to assist you in turning that unconscious part (or parts) from telling you to eat no matter what, to part(s) that will direct you to eat just the right amounts and live the lifestyle you want to live.

Success!

[Alvin]

Merlin,

You're suggesting the mind can control the caloric absorption of food intake? Is this the same thing Skip refers to as deliberate malabsorption?

[CastlemanConsulting]

I was interested in this guy with all the talk and noticed I couldn't find anything out about him on the net. Kinda strange.

[Simple Guy]

Noticed the spelling of "thinking" by Atlgal in "I am thining about going to
a Hypnosis..." As a possible Freudian slip (Sigmund's wife wore one ;) ), it's
a positive sign for Atlgal. There was one weight control client that came
for her first session with me. The purpose of the visit, she wrote, was
"wait control." Appropriately spelled, as she wanted to wait on taking
care of her issue; she never rescheduled as planned.

[Merlin]

I would not say mal-absorbtion as MAL implies faulty, improper, or dysfunctional.

Just because one does not absorb every possible calorie does not mean they are dysfunctional in their food digestion.