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hypnovice
09-25-2004, 10:31 AM
I read Merlin's FAQ and printed out the book list and wondered: which of the books might most help me to self-learn somnambulism and esdaile, and help me to use these states? And which books would be good to get me understanding what hypnosis is all about - other than the Bandler/Grinder ones which I've read? And thanks for the circumcision tips.
Merlin
09-26-2004, 11:51 AM
Probably none of them :(
Self-somnambulism usually requires a guide for you to get there.
hypnovice
09-27-2004, 06:52 AM
Fair enough. I will see a hypnotist. What about supplementary reading? Would anyone hazard a guess as to which books might expand my appreciation of somnambulism and the Esdaile state? And can anyone recommend an online course in hypnosis? It would all be greatly appreciated.http://forum.hypnosis.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
Merlin
09-27-2004, 07:08 PM
Make sure the hypnotist is skilled in the area. Not all are.
HYPNOTHERAPY by Dave Elman
is a good book on somnambulism & the Esdaile state.
hypnovice
09-28-2004, 06:47 AM
OK. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
Youaregettingsleepy
10-05-2004, 02:22 PM
Merlin, I purchased hypnotherapy by dave elman. You don't think with that book, I can learn to achieve self somnambulism? That is very sad indeed, as I am only 18 years old and want to take care of my problems with self hypnosis. I also have read and followed the techniques in Charles Henderson's You can do it with self hypnosis. What do you think of that book's techniques?
Read the Elman, and go here to learn self hypnosis.
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3663/betty.htm
Practice the technique, and then come back with questions about how to do specific things you arent able to figure out yourself.
skip
Youaregettingsleepy
10-05-2004, 03:28 PM
Skip, yuo are an absolute saint and great help!!!!!! Thanks man!
Merlin
10-05-2004, 07:37 PM
I recommend that book because I think it's good :)
>You don't think with that book, I can learn to achieve self somnambulism?
I'm not optimistic you can.
Still, I hope you do :)
Charlie
10-06-2004, 06:19 AM
HYPNOTHERAPY by Dave Elman
is a good book on somnambulism & the Esdaile state.
I'm currently reading this.
Or rather I should say I'm skim-reading it at the moment, as I'm a bit pushed for time.
First brief impression is that the style seems so different from Ericksonian stuff I've read.
I'm looking forward to reading it in more depth.
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Youaregettingsleepy
10-07-2004, 12:01 PM
Ok skip, I have practiced that a few times and am a little confused. I don't really no if I get into a somnambulistic state or not, also, I don't know how or when to apply suggestions if I am spending most of the time on concentrating on images, pictures, sounds and the like.
hypnovice
10-08-2004, 08:59 AM
I am also interested in what anybody has to say about the Betty Erickson technique, which I was using a couple of years ago. I did achieve what felt like an altered state of consciousness the first time I used it. Progressive relaxation also produces this for me. As does imagining that I am floating continuously downward, or descending a flight of stairs. The feeling I get is a severance of consciousness from my body and surroundings, like when I'm going to sleep, which may even be what happens. Is there a distinction between the first stage of sleep and somnambulism, and is it possible to retain alertness during somnambulism so I can experiment with suggestions while in the state, not just before? Can anyone describe their experiences with self-hypnosis?
Merlin
10-08-2004, 07:30 PM
>Is there a distinction between the first stage of sleep and somnambulism,
If you refer to hypnotic somnambulism, yes.
>is it possible to retain alertness during somnambulism so I can experiment with suggestions while in the state, not just before?
Yes.