MrDigital
07-01-2007, 02:27 PM
How can we become conscious about how we percieve the world i.e find our filters?
MrDigital
07-01-2007, 02:30 PM
Just to add meaning applying to self. e.g If i beleive I am not arrogant how will I find out I am..
I am not arrogant BTW :)
I think this is really a good question, Mr. D.
I also think that many people might answer, "ask your friends."
But the truth is, if you ask a friend, "Am I arrogant?" (for example), most friends, thinking they want to keep your friendship and not upset you, will reply, "Of course not."
The thing is, the word "arrogant" is tinged with meaning. Arrogant = bad. Modest = good. However those are value judgments we place on those terms.
So the real question is, how do you get your friends who really know you and care for you--in spite of any negatives you may have--to tell the truth?
The answer, I think is that the term arrogant has so many meanings that it is basically, well, meaningless. What you think is arrogant is completely different to someone else. If they say you are arrogant you may have a completely different interpretation of what they mean rather than what they do mean. So the key is to get around the terms and move to practical behaviors.
Here's what I mean. In the case of arrogance, what does it specifically mean to you? It may mean something such as not listening to what others think or acting impulsively before you have checked things out to make sure you're right.
Now you have something you can ask your friends:
Have I ever not paid attention to things you have said?
Have you ever seen me act before I have full information on something?
Your friends can respond truthfully to these questions without saying you're arrogant. Then you can interpret to determine whether or not you are arrogant.
You can carry this over into any area. What defines the filter. Ask your friends if you fall into that definition or not. Then you can determine what your filters are.
In one mystical tradition, there are five major blockages (known as kleshas) to spiritual evolution. One of these is egotism. In this system egotism is defined as having an opinion of yourself that is not shared by others.
It sounds to me like you are also seeking spiritual evolution.
Kewl!
Poodle
07-01-2007, 05:32 PM
Ahh, the filters. Those are the pesky little devices in our conscious minds that generalize, delete or distort information - go look at your Meta Model again! Want to know about yourself? Meta yourself -- What makes you chunks up and How do you know chunks down. The major problem I find with The Meta Model is that people are Meta-Muddlers or Meta-Monsters. Soften the questions. I bet you can find out a lot about yourself.
What would have happened if you had asked yourself about arrogant - First you would have to have a belief that you are or are not and then Meta it. Get your nose out of TLT and pay a little more attention to the basics like the Meta and Milton Models and practice your submodalities because submodalities are really keys to the kingdom of the mind. NLP was not made to be difficult so step back and take another look from a better perspective.
As Don says: Practice makes perfect -- but it has to be perfect practice makes perfect as if you practice it wrong continually you will never achieve perfect and I bet I could get a good confusion induction going on this!!
I know you know this material so apply to self. Pood :)
MrDigital
07-03-2007, 10:18 AM
Thanks Don & Pood...
Oh and Spiritual evolution does sound pretty kewl to me also ... :)