Creating DESIRE!

[VernreV]

Hello all everybody,

I'm interested in learning how to desire knew behaviours. I've been to two nlp workers and gained knolledge and insights worth there weight in gold.

However, I have yet to be able to create a certain knew behaviour and for any new behaviour to stick it has to be something you truly desire to do (my belief). I've tried swish's and even anchor work, but to no avail.

I want to become a person that desires and enjoys the process of getting problems done and out of the way. In Elvis's prime he used to wear a ring with the letters TCB, I want the same karuning, karate chopping attitude and behaviour as the king. Currently I have very little desire to getting problems done. I do have plenty of desire to do fun/pleasurable things though.

If Skip can help turna homo into a hetero theres gotta be a way to turn me into Elvis, (without the bacon issue).

Question: Desires/Motivations/Values are synonimous right?

Another Question: Has anyone had luck with Values hierarchy, shifting? This might be a possible solution.

One more: What if I created the beliefs that I was that kind of person, would the behaviours just fall in line.

Any thoughts, you brilliant group you?

Thanks!

[Poodle]

Maybe I'm feeling kindly this evening. NLP was about MODELING. Does that give you a clue? If not, you could always use DTI. Personally, I think you should start on the NLP Spelling Strategy. "The King" even knew how to spell. Pood ;)

[Docresults]

Please consider...

Question: Desires/Motivations/Values are synonimous right?

It depends on you, you are the Meaning Maker...

Another Question: Has anyone had luck with Values hierarchy, shifting? This might be a possible solution.

Yes, do it all the time. Have you noticed that you do it also? As I read your post you shifted 3 or 4 minor times and one major time.

One more: What if I created the beliefs that I was that kind of person, would the behaviours just fall in line.

Identity is always king when going for beliefs and behaviors.

To Your Best,
Doc

[skip]

Question: Desires/Motivations/Values are synonimous right?


not to me they arent.

Another Question: Has anyone had luck with Values hierarchy, shifting? This might be a possible solution.

yes, and it isnt a matter of luck.

One more: What if I created the beliefs that I was that kind of person, would the behaviours just fall in line.

If you do it well

cheers,

skip

[VernreV]

:cool: Cool responses!! I think your all right.

So heres what I've gleaned.

-I could find someone that is excellent at TCB and model them or find an existing adequate model and apply it.
-Values hierarchy shifting is an ongoing process and one that can be manipulated for desired results.
-Identity related beliefs GREATLY effect our behaviours.

My two cents: I believe it would be easier to change a belief and let that effect all of it's related behaviours.
Rather than working on the behaviour and letting that change effect it's related beliefs, although this could also work. For instance I quit making bagels, now I'm no longer bagel boy. Or am I?

Also I've learned that Deep Trance Identification is still being used, this is one of my favorite deep trance phenomena (thanks spell check!). Has there been a scenerio where someones beliefs became in conflict after completing DTI? Is this a common hypnosis practice?

Or are there easier ways to make big identity changes, Docresults you mentioned something about why make small belief changes when you could change your entire identity. Are you reffering to DTI?

Lastly, should I expect an NLP coach to be skilled in things like modeling, identitiy belief changes, values hierarchy shifting? I feel like I need to coach my coaches.


Thanks for your help!

[Docresults]

Or are there easier ways to make big identity changes, Docresults you mentioned something about why make small belief changes when you could change your entire identity. Are you reffering to DTI?

DTI is one way, designing an identity is another way, shifting Meta-Mask (Meta-programs that run other Meta-programs) is another way, Deep PEAT another way, DP3 another way (similar to DTI but faster and smoother).

Lastly, should I expect an NLP coach to be skilled in things like modeling, identitiy belief changes, values hierarchy shifting? I feel like I need to coach my coaches.

Thanks for your help!

I don't know what you should expect and yet any good NLP coach I'm aware of has those skills and more.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

[Merlin]

However, I have yet to be able to create a certain knew behaviour and for any new behaviour to stick it has to be something you truly desire to do (my belief).
What if you changed that belief?
f Skip can help turna homo into a hetero theres gotta be a way to turn me into Elvis,
Would that be ecological for you?
Question: Desires/Motivations/Values are synonimous right?Nope
Another Question: Has anyone had luck with Values hierarchy, shifting?
Nope. No luck at all.
I'm not lucky, so I rely on skill.
One more: What if I created the beliefs that I was that kind of person, would the behaviours just fall in line.
The structure has a set of beliefs. Not just one belief.

[Connie]

I saw several Elvises the other day...there's always room for one more. :)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3747/3elviof7playingcrapsattay4.jpg

[VernreV]

:cool: Good stuff people! Connie, thanks for the encouragement! lol!

A few more questions:

For someone to exhibit behaviour there has to be some kind of positive or negative (twoard/away) motivation or combination, right or wrong?

As for myself negative motivations (fear, stress, anxiety) do not work very well. I typically avoid behaviours with that kind of motivation.

Is it possible to switch a behaviours motivation from mostly negative to mostly positive?

Hmm, you guys have got me thinking. Deep Peat, sounds like a streetside guru, I'll definately have to look into that.

Enjoy yourself,

-Nate

[Poodle]

for what you are wanting, there is NO AWAY!

Do you really want to be like him? You know how messed up his life was. Do you want that too? If he had his own personal hypnotherapist, he would still be alive. He could have the drugs mentally without OD'ing and would still be entertaining the ladies. Maybe around '76 or '77 he was in Vegas. We thought about driving over but that is one very long drive and I wish we would have done it. I'm not sure my girlfriends have quite forgiven me yet for saying no as at that time I was the only one with the fast car and Nevada didn't have Speed Limits. KEWL!!

[Merlin]

Well, technically, there's towards or away.
But it can be rather weak.
Tie a shoe.
Shake a hand.
Yes, there is towards/away.
But they are rather weak emotions sometimes.

[VernreV]

Women, fast cars, Elvis and Vegas that would have been an interesting rode trip Poodle!

Merlin, I see what you mean now.

It's interesting how easy it has become to do some of these behaviours. There isn't much conscience thought involved, other than pointing in the direction and sometimes as in a handshake there is often zero conscience thought.

[Poodle]

Ever hear of Parts Therapy -- that's where part of you wants to run and play and there's another part of you that knows you have got to get things done so you post the question here for us to answer. They are both beneficial and good parts as all parts are positive, they just want different things at the same time which creates an inner conflict of sorts. Very easy to get straightened away and integrated back in.

Could be great fun to experiment with on the next visit with your NLP buds. I think it would give you the best answer as not too many people know some of Doc's methodologies. DTI has nothing to do with Deep Trance Phenomenon other than both in Deep Trance if that makes any sense. :)