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Unregistered
09-02-2004, 10:56 AM
Anyone tried Kevin Hogans programs. He makes some big promises. They are rather pricey though. Any input would be great thx

Don
09-02-2004, 01:47 PM
Hi, Guest.

I haven't heard them, but I want to make some general comments.

It would be so easy if people were robots. If a part went bad, we could simply replace it from an assembly line of identical parts.

But we're not that way. Everyone is an individual. If you have a bad heart, you can't simply grab a heart off the first cadaver! Rather, you have to get one that is specific to your biology. Even then, you have to take anti-rejection drugs for the rest of your life.

The mind is far more complex than the heart. A CD may work for one person and not another, just as the heart of an accident victim might help one person and not another.

Pre-set recordings will hopfully help a number of people, but there simply cannot be any way where such a CD will help everyone. So if it helped me, it might have no effect on you at all. My results will have no bearing on your results.

Will it work for you? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe far less expensive ones by other people won't work for you or maybe they will. "You pays yer money and you takes yer chances."

Sorry.

Jack
09-03-2004, 08:18 AM
Hello Don.

I agree with nearly everything you have said regarding CDs or tapes. I sometimes do them for clients but they are always very specific to the client.

But recently I came across a set of CDs that did appear to be universal even though they were aimed at the nebulous area of 'Stress'. Now, being a hardened cynic I'm sure that, as you say they cannot be effective for everyone. Maybe I was attracted because it was an English voice? I don't know. I know that much as I love Wendi Friesen and think that she is one of the best marketeers in the business her voice grates on me after a while. Kevin Hogan I've never heard of so can't comment, but there is an English therapist who supplies tapes and CDs by the bucketload whose voice irritates me immensely, too.

Anyway, to cut a long story short I bought a set of these Stress CDs for research purposes and I find them pretty effective. I think maybe it's because it's a 3 Cd set with each CD supposedly 'addressing a different aspect' of Stress that they work so well. One of them is a guided visualisation across moorland and since I live near moorland but rarely get a chance to walk across it I'm probably triggering all sorts of anchors. ( I've always wondered how you can 'trigger' an 'anchor' - seems like a contradiction in terms). Whatever, it knocks me out and I've had some of the deepest trance states I've ever achieved.

The website is www.alphadynamics.com (http://www.alphadynamics.com) if anybody's interested and there's a free stress e-book on the site which I found quite interesting.

Jack

Don
09-03-2004, 11:44 AM
Jack makes a very good point. I was specifically talking about "Pre-set recordings," recordings made and sold at workshops, over the internet, etc. However, recordings made by a hypnotherapist for a client and dealing specifically with that client can be very beneficial.

This is not to say that non-hypnosis recordings cannot be positive for many people. For example, anti-stress recordings--typically leading progressive relaxation--work for most people.

Unregistered
09-05-2004, 03:57 PM
Anyone tried Kevin Hogans programs. He makes some big promises. They are rather pricey though. Any input would be great thx

Try buying them and seeing if they work on you rather than someone else?

After all, what's a product without comsumer law?