Confused

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I am confused on something and would appreciate any insight.

A person has been diagnosed with a terminal illness. The prognosis is poor; they have very little time left. They embrace the healing modalities that they have read, studied and even practiced for a number of years. There are times where it would appear that progress and improvement are being realized.

The choice they make is to not work with a practitioner or for that matter a mentor, a teacher, a coach, a friend. They believe they have been given the tools, and the knowledge to ‘cure’ their dis-ease without intervention or assistance from anyone. After all, the ability to heal comes from within, not from others, we create our own reality. Any assistance is requested in the third party – not associated with the subject directly, but posed as a study case or a client or they seek new input, different modalities to add to the healing process without disclosing the modalities they are already practising.

A decision is made as to the reason for the illness, and all focus is directed to accepting, acknowledging, eliminating that reason from the body and the mind. Improvement in the condition is not realized, and still the quest is followed. A combination of modalities, therapies, treatments all are directed at the illness, and the belief of what the root cause of the illness is.

The question is… if the person truly believed they understood the cause of the illness, and if they directed all of their focus on healing the body… would not the body and mind respond to the positive focus and eliminate the dis-ease even though the root cause was incorrect. Or… is the betrayal of the root cause, the dis-ease that which leaves the person surrounded in the despair of being unworthy of life, ultimately, choosing death.

The question is more related to whether or not the root cause would matter. The person is knowledgable and chooses to work alone (choice - and not an issue). The assumption is the root cause may or may not be correct... does it matter?

If the focus is directed to healing the dis-ease, whether or not the root cause is correct, does the healing work... or is the power of the mind so great that it would disregard the positive because it was not directed at the root... thus not healing the body.

The scenario is such that because this person chooses to work alone, they may not clearly see the root - their view is clouded by their personal beliefs. The modalities are not focused at the true cause just at the symptons… if one is mis-guided in determining the cause, does it defeat the battle against the dis-ease. If so, how can we be certain that we determine the root cause accuratey?

The part I struggled with is the ability to self-diagnose the root cause (yes, logic gets in the way) and therefore one is not able to directly address the problem. I believe the person wants to deal with the problem, however there is a mask of deceit, in bringing the problem to the logical level, once that is done – whatever action taken is not directed at the root cause and therefore ineffective. By refusing assistance to determine the root cause and deal with truths, another stage of denial is added, and in effect, a choice is made to die rather than heal the conflict and dispel the physical manifestation. All of the work done is against the problem on the logical level and not the root cause of the dis-ease or the truth, one cannot deceive the mind, the lesson is not learned, and the result is a suicide (in the broadest sense of the word).

The dis-ease is a blood cancer and the conceived problem on a logical level is guilt. Addressing the guilt; this makes me happy, I am loved, I am worthy… and I should not be, therefore I will remove that which brings me joy in my life and remove the guilt I carry for happiness.

The symptoms ignored / probable root cause:

Blood Cancer - lack of joy, deep hurt, longstanding resentment, deep secret or grief eating away at the self, carrying hatreds
Back pain (mid/lower) - guilt, lack of emotional support, feeling unworthy, holding back love.
Joint pain – representing changes in life, guilt seeking punishment.
Depression – anger felt unjustified, hopelessness.
Numbness – withholding love and consideration
Swelling- being stuck in thinking.
Breathing – fear or refusal to take on life fully, not feeling the right to take up space or exist. Facial Paralysis – represents showing the world fear, terror, escaping a situation
Jaundice – unbalanced reason, internal/external prejudice

Not all symptoms are present at all times, the manifestation of the physical is constantly changing, all within relatively short periods of time (combined total of a little over 3 months); numbness goes to paralysis. Joint pain goes to swollen limbs. The dis-ease continuing to manifest itself because of the struggle that one isn’t entitled to happiness, joy and love due to something that has been resident for a long time, not because one experienced joy, or love, or feeling worthy.

Thank you all for your comments, I am not the client, I am not the practitioner… only someone who cares deeply watching someone else make choices I do not understand and slowly succumb to death in a most painful way.

[Merlin]

I think someone who self-treats for a serious illness has a fool for a patient.

>The question is… if the person truly believed they understood the cause of the illness, and if they directed all of their focus on healing the body… would not the body and mind respond to the positive focus and eliminate the dis-ease even though the root cause was incorrect.

The sub-conscious is already acting in a manner it believes is in your best interest. That's where the dis-ease comes from.

While I applaud the effort, I think the effort would be great if being done by a person who had no better choices. Some people have succeeded. Less than 1% though.
Personally, I would not like the odds. I'd be looking everywhere for extra help.

[Terry (existing)]

Regardless of what you, or I may think, and the advice we might be tempted to offer, each of us has the God Given Right to make our own decissions when it comes to our demise..... Success or failure have no place in this decission, we are all going to die eventually, and can hope that death comes like a thief in the night, and not as an avenging angel carrying pain in both hands..... Belief may not cure, but it certainly may bring relief from pain, and I trust that in this case it will. You ask if lack of knowledge as to the cause of the desease can be an impediment, yet prayer offered up by others who have no knowledge of the cause, has been known to result in the remission of a desease. There are more things in heaven and earth than any of us know. Terry

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Merlin

Thank you for your thoughts... mysterious woman behind the curtain. I appreciate your insight.

Terry

Whilst I agree that there is 'free will' and choice... still it is sad to see someone put all their efforts into attempting to manifest a cure based on mis-direction.

This person refused all medical attention, didn't believe in the conventional means and was convinced that he alone could cure himself.

You are correct prayers have been known to create miracles... however that is on the premise that there is a God and if one doesn't believe there is any power higher than oneself well... you get the picture, we need to believe in prayer for prayer to work.

The update is this person had a leukemia with a 20 year life expectancy - within two short years they died... and just for the record, his last words were reported to have been "I'm in so much pain"

I believe prayers were answered... prayers that his pain and suffering would be ended.

Still it makes one wonder how the wonderful, marvelous tools and techniques of today can make one believe they can truly heal oneself.

Thank you for your thoughts and perspective...

[deeptrancenow]

There is a point when the only way to recover health is to drop all logical reasoning - it's only in the way. There is a point when whatever you try to do from the outside, doesn't work and it's not only that you have to go within, but you have to bypass anything and everything that comes from the analytical mind.

I will just mention three cases of healing here - cases when there was nothing more that could be done to improve the condition from the outer world. Two instances relate to me, third one relates to healing of a person I have never even met (when you work with mind - that doesn't matter).

The first time I got some mysterous condition that was not even diagnosed, except that I had some internal bleeding that lasted for an entire year. When doctors examined me, they turned pale and wanted to rush me to emergency for exploratory surgery, but I refused. I have figured that if I am to heal myself, the way I saw it, it would be easier while I still have all my body parts than if they start taking them out one by one for the sake of experiment. I was willing to submit to tests, as long as no one cut me anywhere - and whatever tests I had, they could not determine where the bleeding was coming from. I figured that there is a power and intelligence within me that created my body in the first place and if I am to trust anyone to know how to fix the health problem, that's the only One I'd trust.

I tried changing diets and all sorts of natural therapies, but nothing worked. I used self-hypnosis, too, but at the time, that too took very long time without me noticing any changes. It's true - few times I was so terrified from not knowing what's going on and whether what I'm doing is working that I cried my eyes out, but each time I did - I felt an invisible presence, I heard a soothing voice within saying that I will be OK and I felt as if a blanket of incredible peace covered me and a wave of incredible peace washed through my body. There is a step further than just using positive imagery and that's total and complete trust and surrender to the wisdom and power of this Infinite Power and Intelligence within. It is total dissolution of the ego, of the body, of everything you know yourself to be and just allowing yourself to merge fully with this ocean of Infinite Power and Intelligence and rest in that state of being in total peace. That is when the healing occurs - when one does all he can by using his mind and then letting go and letting this Power and Intelligence totally and completely take over. I am immensely grateful for that experience, even though it took me an entire year to completely heal.

Some ten years after that, I have managed to stress myself to the point that half of my face became paralyzed. I wouldn't have even gone to any medical doctors if it weren't for the insistance of my friends who were worried out of their minds. The news I got were very bad. I was to accept the fact that my face may not only remain paralyzed for the rest of my life, but it would get worse. This was unacceptable to me because I couldn't talk any more and I couldn't even eat except with a straw. This time, however, I knew NLP and have essentially used Time-Line Technique and what I learned from Serge Kahili King and called it "it never happened" technique. The essence of what I did is - I simply went back in time, in my mind, to the time before this dreadful thing happened to my face and was re-living the time in my mind all the way to the future, over and over again - for about an hour each day - pretending that I always had perfect health. It took me only few days to completely eliminate the condition and have my face return to normal.

The third instance of healing was on my friend's father whom I never met. I can't even say why I engaged in healing him other than I had incredible inner urge to do so. I never mentioned anything to my friend because he didn't believe in the power of the mind. He saw me do many different things before, but he always tried to make fun of the entire thing - sometimes though he'd just be silent because he didn't know what to make out of it.

My friend's father was in a hospital - on a death bed. It was several days already that doctors told the family that this man will drop dead any moment and the family arranged everything for his funeral. I have a set of my favorite books - Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East - that have greatly influenced me. At the time, they have so deeply impressed upon my mind the idea of there being life and more life everywhere that I just couldn't accept the thought of this man dropping dead. So, I locked myself in my room and what I did was I generated all the energy from my heart, every last drop of energy I had and prayer for this man's life. Silly as it may sound, I was even offering my life in exchange for his. There must have been some divine purpose in this, because there was absolutely no good conscious reason why would I feel that way toward this man - who didn't even do anything great in his life and spent his days mainly just drinking himself into oblivion. In any event, that evening I finally fell asleep from exhaustion after intense prayer and focus. The first thing I learned the next day is that this man totally recovered and was released from the hospital.

Best wishes,

Laura