View Full Version : Perception & Illusions!
nrishiraj
08-30-2004, 10:26 AM
I have managed to download a documentery - called "Secret beyond matter".It has opened my eyes AND I am amazed how this documentery explains how we see things in our brains. Its all an illusion - !!!
I have a wonderful old book called "Zen Comics." In it, a monk sees one of his student jump out of meditation declaring, "I finally understand the truth! There is nothing physical. There is nothing but me."
The monk picks up a branch that has fallen from a tree and smacks the student over the head with the stick. "Owww!" cries the student. "Why did you do that?"
The monk replies, if everything we see is in our brains and nothing else is real, what hit you?"
So rather than advertising another site, how about explaining what you leaned to us?
j0hnny#
08-30-2004, 02:17 PM
So rather than advertising another site, how about explaining what you leaned to us?
I second that.....
j0hnny#
08-30-2004, 02:29 PM
If it's all an illusion, how come it belongs to everyone? Surely it would be your illusion... and if you thought it was illusion then why bother telling anyone about it... its all illusion, no?
That stuff is being spammed about a lot recently....
nrishiraj
Still waiting for some of that higher wisdom.... or does it all come in the form of 'wow, that sounded cool .... must be what I believe'...???
:rolleyes:
nrishiraj
09-22-2004, 05:04 AM
If it's all an illusion, how come it belongs to everyone? Surely it would be your illusion... and if you thought it was illusion then why bother telling anyone about it... its all illusion, no?
That stuff is being spammed about a lot recently....
nrishiraj
Still waiting for some of that higher wisdom.... or does it all come in the form of 'wow, that sounded cool .... must be what I believe'...???
:rolleyes:
johnny, sorry for not replying for some time. I missed ur reply here, however I recommend Tales from the time loop by David Icke, it will explain in great detail and the scientific support that this world is only an illusions which exists in your heads.
j0hnny#
09-22-2004, 05:55 AM
In what sense could it possibly be an illusion. A trick of the mind? Not really real... illusory reality... not really there... you are the only one who exists... or are even you an illusion... if the former (you = only one who exists) I'm afraid you are speaking nonsense... really! For who are you trying to tell you are the only one who exists. You mean I dont exist. who? You, or me. How will you tell me I don't exist. Say it to yourself. You dont exist. Does this really make senes. If the later (not even I exist) then even more absurd (what is it then that says that reality is illusion?) It just does not make sense to say that reality is an illusion... reality is presupposed in your communication. What are you talking about? You want to say that 'see this reality... its all an illusion.... its not really reality.... its only pretend....' HA, HA, HA... (sorry) that is absurd. I mean who are you telling.... you are talking communicating with an illusion.. if you mean what you say. What a ridiculous thing to communicate with an illusion... why would you bother.. its fake after all, not really real, just pretend.. You want to say that reality = illusion - how will you say it and still show your face? Reality = reality & illusion... that is a contradiction... reality = not reality... for illusion is the fake, not really real.... facade.... so what sense is there to that? NON - sense. And why should scientific support be good reason to accept a point of view. Science is, it seems, entirely theoretical, and guess what!? Fashion plays a certain role in dictating the theories it produces. But lets just say that there is good scientific support for the claim that reality is illusion. Why then is it that there is this thing 'science' which is really capable of giving credence to the idea that reality is an illusion? Doesn't the claim that reality is an illusion discredit science of its authority? For science depends upon their being a reality for it to examine, surely?
Unregistered
09-22-2004, 09:57 AM
I have managed to download a documentery - called "Secret beyond matter".It has opened my eyes AND I am amazed how this documentery explains how we see things in our brains. Its all an illusion - !!!
Of course. Out there are events. Your senses pick these up imperfectly and send them to the brain for processing. The brain then adds to its model of reality - which, of course, may be wrong. Chinese whispers, almost. Which is why science, rather than supposition and belief, is so terribly important in understanding and using the world to your best advantage.
Out there is the territory, in here is the model of that territory. NLP. QED.