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AhavatYisrael
04-16-2007, 12:07 PM
Hello again, :)

I would just like to thank those who offered me help and advice, and I'd like to share results I've experienced thus far, with one or two questions.

Initially, I tried for the past couple of weeks to trigger lucid dreams, with great success, and from that point I was able to view my body and surroundings, etc. But, having done this through a lucid dream, I was still skeptical.

Not 45 minutes ago I consciously exited my body, but the method was quite interesting. What I did was somewhat of a progressive relaxation exercise, followed by deep breathing and a count from 1 to 100 in between each breath. After I was finished, I tried something called "The Rope Method" which is "imagining" feeling for a rope, and climbing up it. I would suppose this is trying to impose on your subconscious that you want your soul to exit your body. Well, I stopped consciously trying to do that, and it became a natural process, much like a mantra in the background, so to speak, and I went into a deep state of trance, and at one point I found myself in a hypnagogic state.

What was interesting is I noticed at the center of my chest some...kind of activity, almost like a vibrating sensation that seemed to be opening or increasing in mass. I found I could control this because I was fairly startled, and it ceased a bit...then I imagined it increasing in activity again, and it did so. What happened next has me so excited I don't believe I'll be going to sleep for some time :D, Me, this is what I'm going to call my astral body because I'm still not used to the idea of being seperate from my body, I started to make an ascent, and I was vibrating. It seemed as if my entire being was made up of this vibrating mass, it was not in the least bit PAINFUL but it felt as if it was pure electricity, sorry for being vauge but I can barely comprehend it myself.

I started to lift out, and as soon as I did (the process took a few minutes, I kind of had to ease out, it was somewhat difficult), I found I could sense things just as if I had a body, with a heightened emotional sense. I decided to look at my clock, and my body, and other little details in the room I was in before I eased back into my body, to validate what I had done.
Upon returning, I understood where my body was, but couldn't move it without putting sections of (me) that coincided with my body, and as soon as I eased back into my body and got out of the bed, sure enough the clock was about a minute later than when I had checked it.

What I'm asking, for those who have experienced this first hand, is what exactly was the vibrating all about? It was a vibration so strong I could hear a pretty noticable buzzing. And also, why my chest? If it is a chakra opening, which seemed to happen without my willing it, why not the crown? Why not the solar plexus?

I must thank you all again for your advice and suggestions in previous posts, I simply am skeptical of a lot, and what you all had posted did actually help much.

Toda Raba

Thank You Much.

- Eliyahu

Poodle
04-19-2007, 07:53 PM
the vibrations are normal -- some experience tingling and some experience vibrations. What makes you believe that OBE has anything to do with chakras? Usually people start out with an arm or something but I guess you just "went for it". Next time you are "out", try putting a hand through a lamp.

AhavatYisrael
04-20-2007, 01:19 PM
The only reason I make that assumption is because I just found that the center of my chest, where the heart chakra would be, was vibrating and felt kind of electric.

That's what I had to concentrate on in order to get out.

Haha, I'll try the lamp suggestion.

Toda

NothingButAName
06-22-2007, 10:25 PM
I have heard of attempting to spin while in a lucid dream to prevent from going out of it. I'm curious though, how has being able to perform lucid dreaming at will enhanced your day to day life...any kind of change in your behavior patterns or situations that you find yourself in throughout your waking day?
I would think that the heart chakra would coincide more with our emotional faculties, i could be wrong but this might be the reason why you experienced hightened emotions.
Try flying above your town (in dream interpretation these kinds of dreams are usually a precursor to overcoming something or success in your real wakeful life) or having someone place a short message somewhere where you could find it in your astral form...this might be able to proove whether or not this astral body thing is actual or just in the mind.

NothingButAName
06-22-2007, 10:33 PM
I have experienced the buzzing sound before also but while meditating, it startled me and shocked me out of my meditative state have never been able to get it back since and I think it is part of REALLY deep trance.

Jack
09-13-2007, 01:50 AM
I have experienced the buzzing sound before also but while meditating, it startled me and shocked me out of my meditative state have never been able to get it back since and I think it is part of REALLY deep trance.

Sure your mobile phone wasn't on?:)

People who report experience of OBEs almost alway report sensory experiences of one kind or another, and usually in fairly unique combinations. The vibration felt in the chest may have been fibrillation, heart flutter or indigestion. A medical check up would perhaps be advisory.

No-one actually knows what a trance state is, so I would hesitate to denounce OBEs, but it is certainly possible that when in one the subconscious is perfectly capable of constructing and playing out any scenario of which the imagination is capable.

Jack

Hypnonanna
09-23-2007, 05:29 PM
Everyone is different. Trance is trance. Only the level and the knowledge of the student makes a true difference. When using self-hyp for trance rather than a facilator one might question the depth. As you progress you will know the difference. Even @ that sometimes a facilator is a good idea till you get the hang of it. OBE is a gift for some and is a work in progress for others. My sister, for example, has had controlled OBE's for 22 years. She is a healthy well educated 54 yo and has had OBE's most of her life. If you would like to pick her brain I'll see what I can do. I have had to work @ it ,reading and studying and even using a facilator.
I am sorry if I have come accross in the wrong way. This is totally new to me. ( The writing in a forum) Please feel free to give me your comments. I might sound "smarty like" but I don't intend to.
Thanks for your time,
hypnonanna

pmdigi
09-23-2007, 05:56 PM
:)Welcome aboard!

Poodle
09-23-2007, 07:33 PM
Welcome :)

and

please join in and post ;)

Pood

Jack
09-24-2007, 12:39 AM
All contributions - except those that are abusive or defamatory - are welcome, as are you.

We already have a select bunch of smarta*ses on here, so one more will not make much of a difference.:)

Jack

Merlin
09-24-2007, 09:47 AM
Welcome Hypnonanna
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Terry
09-24-2007, 10:00 AM
Just curious, how long have you been trying?

Merlin
09-24-2007, 11:08 AM
My friends say i've always been trying. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c344/Myhrrhleine2/Eyes/Wink.gif

Deathblessed
01-15-2008, 07:09 AM
Ahavti et ha shem shelcha

Little_bee
02-06-2008, 01:47 AM
I'm new around also.
I'm happy to say that I "changed"(like poodle called it nicely;) not so long ago but yet it seems so far away already:-)

Lately I've been trying OBE's in dreams
First I was dreaming to get out of my body but i got "stuck" by sitting straight.
Next dream I had a nice OBE and was trying to talk to my brother, who was sitting downstairs. I first couldn't hear what he was saying because my heart was pounding really really loud, so I asked him to talk a little bit louder but not to shout so that I could know If my astral body could hear what he was saying. And it did.
After this I went back in my physical body and started laughing :-))

Poodle
08-11-2008, 01:03 PM
Tuesday, 12 August 2008 at 10:00am Pacific IF INTERESTED. It's FREE. You will need to set up an "account" first tho. I believe there are also four previous that you can listen to in the archives.

Pood ;)