View Full Version : Stage hypnosis taught a guy how to moonwalk?
Unregistered
08-19-2004, 11:26 AM
I was at the fair yesterday and the hypnotist told some guy when he woke up he was gonna be michael jackson whenever he said his name. Now when he said 'michael jackson,' the guy jumped up, then the hypnotist put on a michael jackson song and told the guy to come up on stage and dance. The guy could moon walk perfectly and looked / moved like michael jackson! If the guy never knew how to dance or move like that, could being hypnotised actually allow him to do that? or was that part staged?
i was just confused.
TeeJay
08-19-2004, 06:42 PM
He was a shill, hypnosis is not magic....
Landy
08-20-2004, 01:37 AM
Phew, glad about that. Because if that was true then what I've learnt so far would be pretty daft as it doesn't mention things like that.
Well, there is one way to find out. Try it :D
excuse me stage hypnosis is! magic.. my partner is a stagie and when she tells a vollunteer that they can talk martian they are immediately fluent...allegedly,doug;)
Tekcor1
08-20-2004, 09:30 AM
How about considering the fact that there are a lot of people out that that really can dance like Michael Jackson, with or without hypnotism, and the hypnitist was lucky enough to pick one that could. I have been to many stage shows, and they almost always pick someone to "perform" like a famous singer. Sometimes the person nails it on the head, and sometimes they have no idea what the person they are supposed to be portraying is like, so they just move their lips without knowing the words and do a little jig.
Luck of the draw I would imagine.
Paul
TeeJay
08-20-2004, 12:25 PM
[QUOTE=Tekcor1]How about considering the fact that there are a lot of people out that that really can dance like Michael Jackson, with or without hypnotism, and the hypnitist was lucky enough to pick one that could. I have been to many stage shows, and they almost always pick someone to "perform" like a famous singer. Sometimes the person nails it on the head, and sometimes they have no idea what the person they are supposed to be portraying is like, so they just move their lips without knowing the words and do a little jig.
Luck of the draw I would imagine.
Paul[/QUOTe
Well your comments are correct, but I was concluding that the hypnotist would be unlikely to choose someone at random, in hopes that they could indeed give a credible performance. On the other hand, you proved the actual point I was making. If the subject couldn't do the moonwalk, being hypnotized wouldn't teach him....Terry
Hypnosis canot teach you to moonwalk, at least not that fast.
BUT look at this from the stage hypnotists standpoint, it is a no lose situation.
If the person IS able to moon walk, it looks like the hypnotist did it. If the person is lousy but goes ahead and tries, then it is very funny, and the hypnotist 'caused' them to believe that they could, just like a hypnotist can make you think you are a chicken.
Remember entertainment is the purpose of a stage show.
skip
Tekcor1
08-20-2004, 12:44 PM
Well your comments are correct, but I was concluding that the hypnotist would be unlikely to choose someone at random, in hopes that they could indeed give a credible performance. On the other hand, you proved the actual point I was making. If the subject couldn't do the moonwalk, being hypnotized wouldn't teach him....Terry
I agree that being hypnotized wouldn't teach him to dance like MJ. What I took exception to was your assertion that the person was a shill. If you go to enough of these stage shows (we go to one or two a year at various fairs) you will see that more often that not, the hypnotist DOES pick someone at random who DOESN'T give a credible performance. The whole idea of the skit is for the person to make a fool of themself, not to actually look and/or dance like the star they are supposed to be. And believe me, most do that quite convincingly (make fools of themselves).
Unregistered
09-14-2004, 11:35 PM
As a stage hypnotist myself, I have developped a knack of reading body language and the ability to predict the best performer for the skit. A few off the microphone suggestions may imbelish the performance.
The true professional will NOT attempt to make fools out of the participants, but will present an entertaining performance that has the participants in a favorable light.
I resent your views, since not everyone is trying to degrade their subjects. It is a matter of educating the masses through demonstrations of the powers of the mind.
respectfully,
anonymous
The Mentalist
09-16-2004, 08:34 AM
"It is a matter of educating the masses through demonstrations of the powers of the mind." by lieing to them? If you know that the person can already dance, and you just make them dance, the audience believes it was your hypnosis that tought them how to dance, but it really wasn't (as they already knew how). So in this instance, the only powers involved were making the guy do what he already knew how to.
I would respectfully suggest that the performer is not lying to the audience. If it were so, you'd also have to denounce virtually every actor for any role he or she played. After all, they're lying about being that character.
Further, it's quite possible that the actor in this case might never have performed if not part of the hypnosis show. The show, therefore, clearly indicates the power of hypnosis and the mind--not because the actor is doing the moonwalk, but because he is doing it in front of people. Remember, one of the strongest and most powerful fears is the fear of entertaining a group (usually described as "public speaking").
However, I would also respectfully disagree with the context of the comment that "It is a matter of educating the masses through demonstrations of the powers of the mind," and that this education takes place in hypnosis shows. I would contend that the first and primary purpose of hypnosis shows should be to entertain. People should go away amazed and happy. Any real eduction is minimal at best.
Unregistered
09-17-2004, 02:36 PM
The masses are educated by an introduction to the powers of the mind. The main focus of a show should always be entertainment. The hypnotic show has progressed from a circus side show to main-stage theatrical performance.
The stage hypnosist presents a story that contains messages - positive or negative depends on the perfomer. However, the public should walk away with an aroused curiosity about the subject (that is what I mean by being educational). IF a perfomer can entertain AND educate, it makes a more complete package.
anonymous checking back in
When put in those terms, I think we are in total agreement.
The Mentalist
09-17-2004, 03:39 PM
Whenever someone makes a new post, skip's is always last. Does this forum not always put the last post last?
Connie
05-20-2011, 09:40 PM
This is an older topic (before I joined the forum, and indeed, before I had discovered hypnosis), but I feel like commenting. :)
Stage shows are entertainment (when well performed) and education (not the primary goal but it happens!). My first glimpse and thoughts and awareness of hypnosis (beyond cartoons..."yes, master!") was at a stage show. I was fascinated and skeptical and amazed and curious, and that circumstance led me on a path to find out more, and a new life. A new life in a new body doing a new career.
Stage hypnosis does show the power of imagination. And, it's also possible that the subject in question here had seen Michael Jackson perform on TV, etc. and unconsciously learned to moonwalk without ever having DONE it consciously. Hypnosis can unleash that knowing.
Hypnosis IS learning.
RedVortex
05-22-2011, 12:14 AM
My thoughts exactly. We unconsciously know how to do a lot of things that we can tap into when we are under hypnosis. I have made some of my own volunteers, who were self described star trek nerds, speak passable klingon.
Poodle
05-22-2011, 01:24 PM
People are IN a hypnotic trance. They are NOT UNDER anything including the furniture and the rugs.
Secondly, we cannot MAKE someone do something. We suggest.
Update your vocabulary please.
RedVortex
05-22-2011, 02:06 PM
People are IN a hypnotic trance. They are NOT UNDER anything including the furniture and the rugs.
Secondly, we cannot MAKE someone do something. We suggest.
Update your vocabulary please.
Poodle, you are of course correct.
Poodle
05-22-2011, 10:04 PM
moonwalking is so important and the fact that RV had someone speaking a differentlanguage. To get 'graduate' as an Instructor we had to put on a stage show. My participants spoke Martian, one English-Martian and the third spoke only Martian and was a pretty PO'd Marstan as she didn't want peace with Earthlings. The UC mind is extremely creative and they pulled it off brilliantly. The instructor told me I was taking them down too deep too fast. Duh!!! Isn't that the object of the 'exercise'" For some reason the ticked off Martian wanted Pepto-Bismal.
The UC mind has total recall and is the very creative part of us.
Pood :pood:
RedVortex
05-24-2011, 01:57 AM
moonwalking is so important and the fact that RV had someone speaking a differentlanguage. To get 'graduate' as an Instructor we had to put on a stage show. My participants spoke Martian, one English-Martian and the third spoke only Martian and was a pretty PO'd Marstan as she didn't want peace with Earthlings. The UC mind is extremely creative and they pulled it off brilliantly. The instructor told me I was taking them down too deep too fast. Duh!!! Isn't that the object of the 'exercise'" For some reason the ticked off Martian wanted Pepto-Bismal.
The UC mind has total recall and is the very creative part of us.
Pood :pood:
your so petty:D