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Smile
03-27-2007, 03:11 AM
Dear All...
I'd like to share a scary experience as I hypnotize a few friends of mine (4 of them)..., all of them show a good response to hypnosis, suddenly under hypnosis they stood up and began to move (or dance???) wildly and out of control, like those who are under entity possesions in movie scenes, and as I tried to wake them up with suggestions, they seemed to try hard, but still couldn't come out of trance, a few times they managed to open their eyes, but they are still in trance and after a while, close their eyes dan began to move wildly again. Does anyone here has the same experience? What happened? Is it a kind of abreaction? and how can I do to overcome this next time? any tips?

Smile

Snoopy
03-27-2007, 07:02 AM
And that ladies & gentlemen, Is one reason why hypnosis should be left to certified professionals.

One question springs to mind here Smile.... If you can't properly wake your clients/subjects up, what the heck are you doing putting them under to begin with?

Poodle
03-27-2007, 10:45 AM
I would suspect that your friends were having a little fun at your expense supposedly doing what they thought may be trance behaviour.

It would be my hope that you will get proper training in hypnosis. Don't worry tho as in all the thousands of years of hypnosis no one has ever got stuck in trance yet. Until such time as you do receive proper training, please stop messing around with people's minds.

Terry (existing)
03-27-2007, 11:46 AM
You can prevent it happening next time by making sure there isn't a "next time". Simple eh? :cool:

Connie
03-27-2007, 12:22 PM
The same thing happened to me, Smile! Only it was clothes on the back of a chair that got up and did the jerky evil dance of demonic possession. Of course, I was 5 years old at the time and asleep/dreaming...

Who knows what could happen if you fall asleep watching a movie like "Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride of the Return of the Revenge of the Terror of the Attack of the Evil, Mutant, Hellbound, Flesh-Eating Subhumanoid Zombified Living Dead, Part 3 (2005)."

Poodle
03-27-2007, 06:50 PM
I promise you "horror" movies are my all time favorites and I have never had a bad dream from any of them. Although when we went to see Jaws, my roomie was a "nut job" for weeks. We are totally landlocked here and there definitely are no sharks but that just didn't help at all.

Smile
03-28-2007, 12:22 AM
Thanks for the comments...

btw, I am a certified hypnotherapist dan member of IACT, and have been given therapy since 2005, but I never got such an unusual reaction until I hypnotize that group of meditation practitioners, may be poodle has right, it's due to their belief that a trance should look like this.

actually I managed to wake them up by pacing their behaviour and slowly leads them out of trance, I just want know your opinions and experiences, may be there's other way, a better way, who knows...

smile

Connie
03-28-2007, 06:30 AM
I...have been given therapy since 2005 And you're still having problems? Maybe it's time to look into a new therapist.

Connie
03-28-2007, 07:16 AM
...when we went to see Jaws, my roomie was a "nut job" for weeks.

Horror is not my thing! :p Those movies can instill phobias in people. One of my hypno friends commented that after "Arachnophobia" came out in 1990, he saw a spike in clients coming to him with spider fears. Luckily, that's so easy to fix. :)

Poodle
03-28-2007, 10:02 AM
To me, that sounds good for business. Maybe they'll make a whole bunch more but people get phobias over strange things -- the guy with the innocent pea phobia and one Jack had that was phobic about anything shaped like a triangle as a guitar pick.

Smile
03-28-2007, 10:40 PM
And you're still having problems? Maybe it's time to look into a new therapist.
Dear Connie...
Do you agree that this forum is meant for discussions and sharing experiences about hypnosis, rather than offering hostile and arrogant commnents??? No I guess not...
People post here because they are looking for tips & advices, not sarcasms and preachs...
Does it make you feel superior in doing so? Or you don't know the answer either... (what a shame!!!)
No, It's not the time to look into new therapist, but to look for another more qualified, serious and friendly forums.

smile

Connie
03-28-2007, 11:13 PM
I gave your initial question all the seriousness it deserves. I know when someone's pulling our legs (a kind interpretation) and when someone is being sincere and truly needs help. My other suggestion for you is dead serious, you state you've been receiving therapy for 2-some years--that's a LONG time!!!

Poodle
03-29-2007, 11:18 AM
"I am certified hypnotist since 2005 member of IACT" ,,,"actually I managed to wake them up by pacing their behaviour and SLOWLY LEADING THEM out of trance."

I am hoping that English is your second language. Were any of the participants "asleep"? FACT: Hypnosis is NOT SLEEP! "...pacing their behaviour and slowly leading them out of trance" Have you ever heard OR THOUGHT of a very direct command. I'm going to count from 1-3. On 3 your eyes are wide open and your mind fully alert. 1 - 2 - 3 That is! ALL OF IT! The whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me ___________.

I wrote: "I suspect your friends were having a little fun at your expense supposedly doing what they thought ..."

I did NOT WRITE THEY WERE IN TRANCE, ONLY HAVING FUN WITH YOU!! I am suggesting here that you do not know what trance looks like and that no one in your practice is in charge. Please, for the sake of people you may work with, GET MORE TRAINING. Wishing you a much brighter future, Pood

Don
03-29-2007, 11:26 AM
I didn't think Connie's comments were either hostile or arrogant.

Rather, the first one expressed her surprise at your comments in light of your claims and the latter was a direct and, IMO, highly appropriate and positive suggestion.

On the other hand, you demonstrated (inaccurate) mind reading and unwarranted personal attacks.

Terry (existing)
03-29-2007, 12:32 PM
Smile, there are kind and decent people on this board, and insulting them is a very foolish thing to do, you just did it, and in doing it, insulted all of us. Fact is you are either a lier or a fool, and I leave it to you to decide which.
Neither Connie nor Don will say this outright, but I happen to be a nasty old man who hates lies, and despises fools, so either way you will never be one of my favourite people. Two YEARS in therapy? My maximum time for any problem was six sessions, and this over a period of twenty years. Are you a lier? If not, are you the fool who is being fleeced?
Now liers show disrespect for the decent members of this board, and deserve to be ignored. Fools show themselves to be persons who have no ability to learn for themselves, but wish to be spoon fed, something we don;t do.
I have a habit, in that when I find such, I choose not to waste time on them and put them on my ignore list. You just qualified, and now you know why.

Connie
03-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Thanks, D & T. I feel the love! :D

Terry's right! I don't like to call people liars, even when there's not the slightest shred of doubt in my mind that that is the case. I suppose there's a usefullness here in taking the "story" at face value and answering it in a way to dispell all the hypnotic misconceptions being spouted, just in case there are some uninformed people reading who really don't know how ridiculous it is.

Terry (existing)
03-29-2007, 02:49 PM
Connie, it's a wonderful and diverse world we live in. There is a place for all sorts, including fools, liers, and cheats of all kinds. However, there is also a time and place for statements of observed truths, and I see no reason for holding back when such are called for. I am not that "nice".
As for Smile, I did not call him a lier, I was honest enough to allow him to decide between being a lier or being a fool. After all, there are idiots who attend on a psychologist for years on a weekly basis, and it is possible he is one of those, they are the idiots not the liers, but I don;t like either, and say so. Such idiots waste my time and yours since they never learn. Smile believes he "knows", let him continue to believe as he will, but not waste my time, that I don;t allow..I have dozens of names on my ignore list, and I see no reason to apologise for it. My time is valuable, and I spend it as wisely as I know how... One excellent reason why I respect Don and Skip, they don;t have the luxury we have, or perhaps "feel" they don;t. Remember the mantra, "Too thine own self be true", there is no better attitude for being prepared to help a client than to have self respect.

Connie
03-29-2007, 04:02 PM
Hi, Terry. I appreciate all your comments. Always!! :)

I have good radar for truth vs. bull-oney. I don't waffle and wonder, I know what I know. There's a nice confidence in that. I tried to be nice re: OP's absurd initial post and still express my disbelief by suggesting he dreamt it. In these type of situations, calling "liar liar pants on fire" is usually further down my list of options.

Merlin
04-01-2007, 12:48 PM
>Does anyone here has the same experience?

Many have

>What happened?

More Training was advised by us.

>Is it a kind of abreaction?

Possibly.
How could we know?
we weren't there.

>and how can I do to overcome this next time?

Suggest otherwise.

> any tips

Yes, get better training.