Hypnotherapy and boxing

[Danny]

Hi, it's been a very long time since I have been here, and I think I talked about this topic before. but, can hypnotherapy help a person achieve faster reflexes and calmness? I have heard a lot about hypnotherapy, but I still think its like a placebo to make you think your better but its all in your imagination. I'm getting into Muay Thai boxing, and I was just wondering about the faster reflexes and staying calm, etc.

also, I start school again in a few days, and when i went there 2 days ago to pick up my schedule, I was nervous as heck. I was sweating like crazy and i was anxious about everything imaginable. i dont know why i get so anxious, but i really need to do something about it. is there some hypnotherapy that can, i dont know, make me not care? make me not feel this anxiousness? I dont want to be scared all the time, i dont see why i should be, but i am for some reason. i could also use some quick tips before i go to school to help control myself, because i wont have time for any big hypnotherapy sessions.

thanks,

Dan

[skip]

You want us to give you some quick tips on how to utilize something you believe doesnt work?

Is that really what you meant to ask?

skip

[Merlin]

>but I still think its like a placebo to make you think your better...

Yes, it is!
"Placebo' has been studied more than any other effect.
Why do you think placebo is a problem for medical researchers? Because it actually has a SIGNIFICANT effect!

Hypnosis enhances the placebo effect many times over.
It IS all in your mind.
What the mind expects to happen, tends to be realised.

>i wont have time for any big hypnotherapy sessions...

That's ashame :(

[Danny]

Skip, i never said i don't believe it works, i said that i think its just a placebo, and i have heard that placebos don't always do the trick. im just a little skeptical.

so do you guys have any quick tips that could help me keep my cool for the first few days of school until i get my self settled in?

[TaffyE]

so do you guys have any quick tips that could help me keep my cool for the first few days of school until i get my self settled in?
In your imagination, take yourself off into the future ( however long it has taken you to settle into other years) and see yourself thoroughly settled in now. See and feel how well you coped - soooo much more quickly than you ever thought you could.

By the way, healthy skepticism is a good thing. :)

[Danny]

oh well thanks, lol, 2 days into school now, and i just now read that post. ive gotten calmed down, there wasnt much anxiety this time around. anyways, so are things like time distortion possible through hypnosis?

[Merlin]

Time distortion is easy. It may not be the best answer for what you seek, but to answer your question:
>so are things like time distortion possible through hypnosis?


yup, easy.

[Unregistered]

<i>Hi, it's been a very long time since I have been here, and I think I talked about this topic before. but, can hypnotherapy help a person achieve faster reflexes and calmness? I have heard a lot about hypnotherapy, but I still think its like a placebo to make you think your better but its all in your imagination. I'm getting into Muay Thai boxing, and I was just wondering about the faster reflexes and staying calm, etc.</i>

I'm no authority on hypnosis, despite lurking here for quite some time, but as far as Thai Boxing goes, I do have some advice. Many of the "faster reflexes" you will encounter aren't innate. They're a product of training; learning to recognize body patterns and movements tell you what someone is going to do. When you first start, it will be frustrating and tiring. It will seem like people are hitting you before you can throw anything; almost like they're reading your mind. Neck Wrestling will leave you wondering if you'll be able to move your head at all in the morning. Shin conditioning will seem endless and painful. Then, as you begin learning, you'll realize that much of the pain involved in shin conditioning especially, is all in your head. You'll begin to see punches forming before they're thrown and be able to counter them appropriately. You'll get the same intuitive feel for movement in the clinch. It takes time and practice, but you will learn.

One thing I do believe hypnosis can do to help you is teach you how to relax yourself. The more relaxed you are, the faster/harder you can throw punches, kickes, knees, and elbows. Shadow boxing is generally considered best for speeding up your movements. Ask your instructor for drills that you can do by yourself.

As far as staying calm, I don't have much advice. Everyone I know that fights gets nervous before matches, where they are MMA, NHB, Kickboxing, Boxing, or Grappling. You will get nervous before any fight. Learn to use that energy to focus on your opponent and visualize strategy. Again, I believe this may be something hypnosis can help you with, but I also believe it comes on its own to many people with time.

Excuse me for going off on a tangent.

[Jack]

Hello Danny,

Yes.

Of course your reflexes can be speeded up, but only if they have been slowed down for some reason.

I work with many sportspeople and in general the best are born that way.

What I mean by this is that by accidents of genetics and birth some people have the physical and mental mechanics that suits them for a particular sport, or event within a sport. Sometimes they are doing the wrong sport because at school they found they had a minor talent for, let's say, the 800m. They pursue this track event throughout school only to find that others have a major talent for the event and they are also-rans.

Now, my own experience tells me that although they may try another distance, it is unlikely because of the knock back, the lack of confidence that occurred when they found that early successes were turning into later failures. So, they are lost to sport. Somewhere out there may be the 9 second sprinter or the 3 minute miler, pumping gas or jogging around the Stock Exchange. Unlikely, but maybe.

But what if they are naturally equipped for shorter sprints or longer races? If for longer races their reflexes have been slowed down, if for shorter their reflexes have been speeded up. In neither case is the optimum being achieved.

So that's what I mean by 'slowed down for some reason'. Hypnotherapy and NLP can be used to re-educate their reflexes to utilise the natural optimum they have. Natural optimum means just that: whatever you are genetically and physically capable of can be achieved. Beyond that is the realm of designer drugs which although effective in the short term are ultimately destructive to the health and sometimes mental stability of the athlete.

Hope that helped.

Jack

[John Warner]

Jack, i know that i've heard a few things from bandler about designing in states that might not have existed previously. for example, he teaches people to re-create the experience of the drug withought the drug.

if drugs could take you beyond your natural state as you suggest.. (at the cost of other things) and you can re-create the effect of drugs with hypnosis (which i still havent proven for myself so dont think this is something i firmy belive) theennn----- ???

thoughts, anyone?

[Unregistered]

Hi Jack,

I was wondering if you could elaborate on this statement:

But what if they are naturally equipped for shorter sprints or longer races? If for longer races their reflexes have been slowed down, if for shorter their reflexes have been speeded up. In neither case is the optimum being achieved.

I'm unclear on what is being said.

Regards,
Owen

[Jack]

Hello,

My apologies if I was obtuse. What I mean is that the natural reflexes with which each of us are born are not necessarily working at optimum efficiency because they have been interfered with, or modified by experience, desire or chance. So, if someone with naturally splendid sprinting twitch muscles was persuaded by experience, desire or chance to run the marathon, then their reflexes and musculature would not be working at the optimum level at which they could.

As for recreating drug experiences under hypnosis: it is possible to recreate any experience under hypnosis but the experience using performance drugs would be, in my opinion, subjective. The athlete may think he is performing better but objective assessment would probably contradict that subjective feeling. But it's an interesting area and perhaps worthy of research.

Jack

[Owen]

Hi Jack,

No apologies are necessary. I was just confused. I would be interested in learning how people would use hypnosis to complement reflex training. I mean no offense, but I believe the reflexes he was speaking of may be a little different than what you spoke about. Runners generally only have to worry about 1 reaction: the starting gun, whereas a person in a combat sport constantly is reacting to any number of given situations/stimuli.

As far as determining muscle fiber ratio, I do think that it is an excellent way see if a person is more genetically gifted at some endeavors than others, and thankfully their are now non-invasive procedures to do so. I apologize beforehand if I'm coming off as confrontational; I'm sincerely trying not to be and also to avoid a hyperplasia vs. hypertrophy debate.

Regards,
Owen

[hypnoboy]

I never Respond to much but I felt I had to, it seems like most of the people that are asking the questions on this site, want us to fix them right up, but they are saying don’t take to long. I am wondering what would happen if they went to there Doctor, or auto mechanic with this need, it did not take you a day to get to where you are now. Be good to yourself; take the time you need to heal. Try it.

Best wishes Michael.

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[John Warner]

haha i love the title of your thred hypnoboy

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know anything about Valerie Austin and has anyone trained with her?

[Keith Livingston]

Danny,

One thing you can do is to ask your unconscious to sort through all your best performances and do more of the same. You can also watch people that are really good and ask your unconscious to assimilate what it can from those folks.

In essence, you're not trying to make the human body do something it can't, simply to use the best strategies available by putting good information in your mind and using it efficiently.

Sincerely,

Keith Livingston

[Unregistered]

Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, Wade Robson, Usher, Valentino Rossi... all of these people are known as the "best of the best" of their talents. What do they all have in common? They all started when they were very young.

That's the problem for me. If there are all of these people starting their careers when they are barely out of diapers, where does that put the rest of us? How can we be as good as them even though we don't even start until 10 years after them or even longer?

I have a lot of career interests, varying from boxer, jet fighter, cellist, pianist, moto gp racer, personal trainer, dancer, and some other things. But I feel hopeless and that I will never amount to being the best because of those early starters.

What can hypnosis do to help me get an edge?

[Don]

There is a unique phenomenon when studying particle physics. Specifically, particles are not seen until they're looked for. That is, in an experiment where atoms were split before people were lookinig for quarks, no evidence for quarks was seen. But when the same experiments were done while looking for quarks, they suddenly were seen.

The same sort of thing happens in many fields. People never see something unless they're looking for it. So if you are only looking for people who were successful as early starters, you'll only find early starters who were successful.

The late Rodney Dangerfield didn't start out as a commedian until later in life. One of the greatest modern artists, "Grandma" Moses, didn't start painting until she was elderly. One man was famous as an interpreter of Bach Organ music. Later in life he decided to become a doctor and do work in Africa. Perhaps you've heard of him: Dr. Albert Schweitzer.

Or how about a guy who did very badly in school. Was a drug abuser and an alcoholic. Failed in business after business. Became a success by basically stealing huge tracts of land from another person (he lost a lawsuit over this). When he was in his late 40s he decided to go into politics (like his father). When he was 54 he ran for a different office and became the current president of the U.S.

As long at you only see "early starters" as being successful, you'll miss all of the people who have had incredible success at a later age. Hypnotherapy can help you achieve a much better self-image so you'll be able to achieve your goals and become a success rather than worry about a thing as petty and unimportant as the year you were born.

[Unregistered]

thanks for the quick reply, Tod. That really helps, I never really thought about all those other people, I was too focused on the "lucky" ones. I don't think that will really be as much of a problem to me anymore, thanks.