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martin005
03-07-2007, 10:27 AM
hi, i like hypnosis so much but i don t know where can i learn it, i am from slovakia and my question is can I learn hypnosis over net for free or I must buy some kind of books and if I can learn it for free where can I do this.
thanks for answer

Jack
03-07-2007, 11:47 AM
Yep, you can learn to hypnotise in 5 minutes by reading a book or searching the 'net.

How much value do you think there might be in learning hypnosis that way?
How much value would there be in learning something which is free? Why is it free if it has value? If it has no value, why bother learning it?

Jack

martin005
03-07-2007, 11:50 AM
I am interested in NLP and Hypnosis and if are anywhere on net lessons of it, I can pay for it it doesn t matter but I don t know which of these lessons are good and really works and can be downloaded because as i told i am from slovakia and i think more of these books or dvds cant be sent to my country can you recommend me

martin005
03-07-2007, 11:53 AM
ok you are right and I can pay for it but I don t know where can I take lessons which really works so can you recomend me?

Jack
03-07-2007, 12:07 PM
You may have to venture outside of your native Slovakia, I'm afraid.
I don't actually know any Slovakian hypnotherapists, although I'm sure there must be some.

You could try learning all you can using books, and then travel to London for a weekend practical course. It would not make you an expert but would help you to understand how much learning you have to do before you know what to do with what you have learnt. It would not of course be in Slovakian, but in English, so this might be a problem for you.

If you decide to do that, try emailing the NCH - www.hypnotherapists.org.uk (http://www.hypnotherapists.org.uk) to enquire about suitable courses.

Good luck.

Jack



ok you are right and I can pay for it but I don t know where can I take lessons which really works so can you recomend me?

Terry (existing)
03-07-2007, 01:13 PM
I am interested in NLP and Hypnosis and if are anywhere on net lessons of it, I can pay for it it doesn t matter but I don t know which of these lessons are good and really works and can be downloaded because as i told i am from slovakia and i think more of these books or dvds cant be sent to my country can you recommend me There you go then, we don;t believe you can learn online, and you don;t believe you can learn any other way it seems, so I guess you will never learn eh? Strange, I am under the impression that many practitioners live in your country, but then I am not there and you are. I believe training there is possible, but you are there and I am not. I believe you have not bothered to do anything other than post here, but them that is normal for those who want to play hypnotist. We don;t play we practise... We don't complain about what is not possible, we look for what is possible and do it, and that is the difference between us....

debuy_2001
03-07-2007, 02:16 PM
Terry, all you do is shoot everyone down that wants to come on this board. Some people just want to learn and know where the best place to find it is. If you could stop being ...[mean] to everyone it would really make everyone feel a whole lot better. Now you're probably gonna come back at me with some ... statement im not interested in at all. But I think someone needs to put you in your place... You are merely one of many that loves the practise and we all just want to learn, so just chill out.

Terry (existing)
03-07-2007, 03:18 PM
Terry, all you do is shoot everyone down that wants to come on this board. Some people just want to learn and know where the best place to find it is. If you could stop being ...mean to everyone it would really make everyone feel a whole lot better. Now you're probably gonna come back at me with some... statement im not interested in at all. But I think someone needs to put you in your place... You are merely one of many that loves the practise and we all just want to learn, so just chill out.

:eek: ...[M]ay I suggest you put me on your ignore list so you don't need to read my posts? ....

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martin005
03-13-2007, 08:52 AM
terry, why you want this, I didn t only have an internet for few days because ... but now I have it than what s your problem I don t have a problem with you and I want only know if i can learn hypnosis or not if is there any way which can I learn it

Terry (existing)
03-13-2007, 01:27 PM
Martin, you asked a question, the answer was given by several people, yet you persist with the same question as if nobody had replied. Now you may not have a problem with me, but I certainly do have a problem with you.
Simply put, you want to learn hypnosis ONLINE, and for FREE. You have been told it is not possible. You then say you can pay if you must, but still the answer is the same, because YOU CAN'T LEARN ONLINE PERIOD.
Still you persist that this is the only way for you, since nobody in your country is skilled in hypnosis or willing to teach it. Now I know, and you know that that is not true don;t we? You know, and I know, you just haven't bothered...
You...wonder why we might have a problem with you insisting that it must be YOUR way or the highway, and don;t understand when the reply you get is "It's the Highway". Strange as it might seem to you, the reply you got was the one you were looking for.
There are several highly skilled members here who could offer online courses if they chose, but don;t do so because they see it as fraudulent. However, if you really want to throw away your money, you can take my course, which has been proven effective locally, and the cost will be the same as it is for a face to face training. Got $3,000.00 CN to waste? Call me....
Nice is for grandfathers, honesty is for business. I am not your grandfather.

Don
03-13-2007, 01:55 PM
Martin, if you really want to throw away money, try www.ebay.com. They always have people offering "courses" in hypnosis ranging in price from a few bucks to several hundred dollars. As Terry pointed out, they don't really work, and in my opinion you'll be wasting your money, but that's up to you.

I suggest that you take an in-person class in hypnosis. You may have to travel to take them. I have, so have many others on this forum. I've seen people travel thousands of miles to get the training they want.

After you really learn in one or more of these courses, books will be an incredible resource you can use.

In the meantime, if you're looking for free, try your local library.

Poodle
03-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Where in the heck is Slovakia? I don't believe they don't allow books in your country. I know they are allowed in Slovenia, Poland, Russia, Hungary, Kosovo. In Hungary it isn't really popular yet but they don't prevent one from learning and in Slovenia one has to finish university to set up a practice sooo what's up in your country?

You will truthfully learn CRAP on the internet. Save your money and then invest in a really great training up front and in person. You can check at purenlp.com for NLP Trainers near you.

Wishing you the best of luck in your search, Pood

martin005
03-14-2007, 12:15 PM
I now know where can I find instructors and NLP courses in slovakia so thANKS for replies

Snoopy
03-18-2007, 06:04 AM
Those people whom attack Terry for making the comments he does, really need to understand where he is coming from.

I was once one of those people who tried to learn hypnosis as cheaply and easilly as i could. I wasted money on ebooks, downloaded MP3's and searched the internet for as much information I could find

And yes, I found information, Was it worth the money I paid for it? DEFINATLY NOT

Since then, I have learnt hypnotherapy PROPERLY, from a PROFESSIONAL teacher.

Those ebooks you can buy/download on the internet do give you "scripts" to use on clients, They do give you VERY basic induction methods.

What they don't teach you far outweighs what they do teach

What happens if your client doesnt wake up?
What happens if your client gets an abreaction to your suggestions?
What happens if your client has "Black Eyes" when you wake them up?
What happens if you get a client that has multiple personalities?
What happens if you help a friend get rid of their migrane headaches, and a week later they die of a brain tumor?

Thats just a few of the problems a therapist can experience, True some of them are rare, But they do happen.

My Hypnotherapy course cost me about $3000 for a 4 week (Full Time) training course. And it was worth EVERY CENT

Hypnosis is a very powerful tool if used correctly, and can help people change their life for the better. But its not a toy, People trying to use hypnosis without propper knowledge can not only cause mental problems for the client, but can also get themselves in a lot of trouble.

So to all those newcomers interested in learning Hypnosis, Sure, learn it, Its a great tool to know, But learn it properly. Once you have you will understand exactly where Terry & the others here are coming from.

Don
03-18-2007, 12:59 PM
Hi, Snoopy.

You make some very great comments. Thanks for adding to this discourse.

I understand where Terry is coming from and many times I have posted that while I agree with Terry I might not have used the same words. Just a different approach and I respect him greatly.

One of the problems (not just here, but with virtually every internet forum I've ever seen) is a lack of understanding of what is known as "netiquette." Whenever a person joins a forum, netiquette urges that they read previous posts. I would say that in many cases their questions would be answered if they would follow this simple and basic principle.

Unfortunately, in many cases they don't, and forums end up get many of the same questions asked repeatedly. It's sort of like standing under a sign that says, "apples sold inside" and asking everyone who walks by, as well as people in the store, where they can by apples. It makes them look dumb and it makes some people exasperated. I'm on one forum where, so help me, at least twice a week people ask, "I've just heard about this. Where can I learn more?"

I would respectfully disagree with you about the eBooks, MP3s, etc. Many of them have great additional information that can be used after training. Some can inspire people to get real training. And when some people try things and are unsuccessful, they leave hypnosis to those who are willing to get training, practice, study, and learn. I'm in favor of them--just not as your only resource.

Terry (existing)
03-18-2007, 02:52 PM
Snoopy, when a person gets upset and angry at comments they don;t like, two things can happen. Best of all, they will give pause and think about if it is they who are wrong, or the person making the comment. If this happens, they are surely left with little to point in the direction that the fault lies in me, since I have nothing to gain being retired, and happy to stay that way.
Sadly, most do not give pause at all, being convinced that we are uwilling to share our knowledge, because if we were it would be easy for us to teach them online. Hell, everything is possible online don;t you know?
It is sad to see so many young people who are so tied to the computer that they see no possible problem from depending on that one medium alone, and ignoring face to face, books, or indeed any other method of learning to achieve important goals. I see this attitude in so many young people, including my own grand children in some cases, and do all I can to change it.
The computer is a wonderful tool, but that is all it is, and in the same way that nobody wishing to build a house would depend on only a hammer, or only a saw, or only a T square, so nobody should depend on one tool alone to learn such a complicated skill as hypnosis. If they choose to do so, and find themselves frustrated, too bad, they alone are to blame for not believing grampa:)
I say it like it is, but I use a hammer to drive it home, while leaving it to Don, Skip, and other friends here whom I respect, to do it differently so as to increase the likelyhood of us being successful. If posters don;t like my aproach, it matters not to me, they are strangers I am trying to help, and if I fail, someone else may well succeed. I do not get angry with those who fail to understand, since my life is not affected by their attitude or beliefs, so in some sense I can say, "I'm OK Jack", but yes I do hope that one of us will get through and change someones life for the better. Glad something turned you around, and sorry I can't think it was a comment from me.
Lord knows I try, and am at times trying:D

Poodle
03-18-2007, 02:53 PM
and we have no farther to look than Connie. Happened by with a question and now has a dazzling new career and she brought her husband too. I really don't think it was "us". She just had a great curiosity and I'd be willing to bet it will NEVER BE SATIATED.

We do win one now and again and for Terry's posts. Look for the wisdom inside of them. It's there if only you know how to read.

Snoopy
03-20-2007, 05:06 AM
Glad something turned you around, and sorry I can't think it was a comment from me.
Lord knows I try, and am at times trying:D

Terry, In a way it was you. What turned me around is the want to learn the skills "properly" so i can see things on a level closer to how a professional see's it (I say a level closer due to the fact you have years of training on top of what i have).

Don, I do agree with you that the internet can supply reasonable information AFTER training. But only because after training has been provided we're able to read what can be found online with a more analytical mind, weeding out the useless information and picking out the parts that actually work.

What people don't realize when searching online for information is, there are dozens, if not hundreds of different approaches that one can take to help someone with hypnosis, and not all of them will work with everyone.

There is no "script" that can be downloaded and used to treat all clients, Each have their own complaints, their own habits, and are affected in different ways.

The simple point of the matter is, People search online, find themselves an induction or two that works (possibly boring the client into the hypnotic state), learn a few post hypnotic suggestions and call themself a hypnotist.. Only problem is, by doing things that way, they never actually understand what it really is that they are playing with.

The mind is there to protect us, help us grow & to help us learn. And because of this, it should be treated with as much respect as possible. And in my opionion it deserves to be spoken to by someone who is compititent in what they are doing.

Snoopy

Poodle
03-20-2007, 09:58 AM
$3,000 for 4 weeks? What kind of $? If US dollar, it is extremely reasonable and seems to be a good course as you do know your p's and q's or so it seems - Pood

Snoopy
03-20-2007, 02:30 PM
Hi Poodle.

I'm actually talking AUD$3000.00 (Australian) which (at the time of posting this) was US$2409.74, CAD$2798.64 or GBP$1228.50.... I think that just about covers all the different currencys from members here...lol

Merlin
03-21-2007, 10:09 AM
Nope. Guess again Snoopy.
We have people here from *many* other places :)

Poodle
03-21-2007, 04:11 PM
Please PM me if you can go to Prague in April. I know it is not too far. You can learn just hypnosis or you can learn hypnosis and NLP through Master Practitioner. The instructors are excellent - personal bias here! Poodle