Hypnosis to grow taller?

[Unregistered]

I've heard about all the wonders that hypnosis can do to you. Now some sites like deeptrancenow.com and hyptalk.com are selling hypnotic tapes so that customers can use the power of their minds to grow taller. Is there even a remote chance that this is possible?

[EC]

>>Is there even a remote chance that this is possible?<<

Yes

EC

[Don]

I've heard about all the wonders that hypnosis can do to you. Now some sites like deeptrancenow.com and hyptalk.com are selling hypnotic tapes so that customers can use the power of their minds to grow taller. Is there even a remote chance that this is possible?

As EC simply replied, there is certainly a remote chance that this is possible.

However, I feel it is important to understand that the paradigm by which most people look at themselves is not the same as that followed by many, if not most, professional hypnotherapists.

Specifically, most people (in Western countries) consider their bodies to be nothing more than a machine. If a part is bad, either fix it or replace it. The technique for doing this is the same (or pretty much the same) for everyone. In other words, what works for one person will, in most cases, work for others.

The hypnotherapeutic paradigm is that each person is a unique individual. The needed therapy for one person may be different for another person even though the apparent problem for which the treatment is desired is the same. In other words, what works for one person may not work for anyone else.

Therefore, there is certainly a "remote chance" that hypnotherapy for growth will work, but the technique that works for one person may not work for another person.

But let's look at this logically for a moment. Do you really think that if somebody had a technique that would really help everyone add inches to their height and could distribute this on audio tapes or CDs they wouldn't be selling them for hundreds or thousands of dollars each? Do you really think that doctors everywhere wouldn't be telling their patients about it? Do you really think that ever news program wouldn't have reports about it?

[Unregistered]

I am the original poster. Of course I have thought about why those CDs aren't making national headlines and selling a fortune. However, as someone who've tried every possible way to grow, using hypnosis to grow taller is still considered unexplored territory. The fact is most people (customers or news reporters) would think using hypnosis to grow is bogus. And those who do believe might not be doing it right. The point is, there isn't a dedicated group of people who has the belief to make it work yet.

[Terry]

I am the original poster. Of course I have thought about why those CDs aren't making national headlines and selling a fortune. However, as someone who've tried every possible way to grow, using hypnosis to grow taller is still considered unexplored territory. The fact is most people (customers or news reporters) would think using hypnosis to grow is bogus. And those who do believe might not be doing it right. The point is, there isn't a dedicated group of people who has the belief to make it work yet.After posting in two places, and getting replies on both, which recommend only a slight possibility of success, your reply is interesting to say the least.....
Now we can all respect the desire you have, and the willingness to try anything that might even remotely work, but I do have one problem I must ask you about......Why, if you are so dedicated to finding something that will work, or even "Might" work, are you going for cheap, and thinking of using tapes rather than consulting a live practitioner? Yes we could all be wrong, so continue to search, but remember, some of us at least, have done the research, and are reasonably satified that we know the likely outcome. You on the other hand, seem to disagree, as is your right, but why ask those who say no, if you are determined to take a different road?
Your last paragraph in particullar is illuminating, you say, "there isn't a dedicated group who have the BELIEF to make it work, and you are right, some of us did the nescessary research and decided that we would be wasting our time, so you are correct in the idea that we stopped short of trying. On the other hand, if all you have is belief, you are also wasting time. Now if you were in the position of being young enough to still have a chance of growing, it might be different, but I am under the impression that you are an adult, and have long passed that stage. Terry

[Unregistered]

Original poster again. I am a 18 year old girl who is 5'2. My height has robbed me of all my self confidence and has driven me to the verge of suicide my sophomore and junior years of high school. I guess in the back of my head I have a lot of doubt too, but desperation always makes one believe with the slightest assurances. I have been scammed by so called "Growth Booster" products, spent hours doing yoga exercises meant to lengthen your spine, bought amino acids, nutrition guides on growing taller, etc. Yes it sounds dumb but again when something like being short has such a profound effect on your life, you would do anything for hope.

The tapes' reasoning is this: Every cell on your body replaces itself every 3 months, and new cells form according to the blueprint of your body in your subconscious mind. By using hypnosis to change that blueprint that your mind holds of your body, the cells will replace according to this new blueprint. So by imagining that I am my dream height of 5'8 and seeing through the eyes of my new body, I can alter this image.

Or so they claim. I'm probably getting scammed by the tapes too, but the reason I believe is that I want to believe so badly. It's something unknown, and something unknown gives hope for the desperate.

[eyp]

It's funny you see things that way. I'm a 24 year old guy and I spend so much time scanning rooms for girls 5'4" and under, which is my height. I've just always seen that as an asset in women.

Not only that, but you women can wear all kinds of shoes that will give you 3-4" inches of height. My only hope would be a set of cowboy boots, which is a cure worse than the disease.

Being 5'2" isn't really your problem. You have some other issues to work out.

[Merlin]

Hi,

Yes, soft tissue replaces itself every few days, up to a few months, but that's a repair process, not a growing process.

What you must consider is what the side effects might be. If your bone ends have fused to stop growth, then elongating the bones might make them more thin and brittle. If they haven't, then the other methods you've tried shoulda worked.

I know what you mean about height (kinda). I'm over 6 ft. They don't make shoes or... to make us look shorter (sigh). In flats I'm still too tall!

Hypnosis can certainly help with accepting your circumstances. *could* it make you taller? Possibly yes.
What does your dr. say? Have the bones fused yet?

No reputable hypnotist would work with this without a MD in partnership. But CDs and such fall under 'free speech' and as such the hypnotist need not care about you or potential harm.

[TaffyE]

Hi 5' 2"

Good things come in small packages.
My wife is 5' 1/2" and rejoices in that, and she is a jewel (but then I admit to being biased).
Many guys will want to look after and protect you. Appreciate your petite size, it is an asset

[EC]

Hi 5'2,

You came here looking for advice, or perhaps more appropriately, you came looking for hope.

I doubt there are many people who have always been totally happy with the body they are in. Many find a balance between what they have and what they would like to have and live in peace with themselves. Many others spend a lifetime trying to "change" what they have as evidenced by the by the billions spent on weight loss, cosmetic surgery etc. Sadly enough, most all of these people spend their time and money and then come full circle back to where they started, just as unhappy with what they have as they were to begin with.

It sounds like you are at that critical juncture, "do you find a way to be/get physically bigger", or, would it make more sense to explore the real issue of "why you feel small or perhaps even "insignificant" or smaller than others.

Physical size has little to do with who you are and how good you feel about yourself. Spend a few bucks with a hypnotherapist and explore the feelings. Save your money on cosmetic surgery.

I hope this helps your decision,

EC

[Unregistered]

It's easy to say that height has nothing to do with appearance when you are not in my shoes. Try telling that to the 9 out of 10 guys whose sense of beauty has been completely manipulated by the magazine ads featuring 5'8, 120 pound stick thin whores. I know I sound extremely shallow and bitter, but that's because all that I have accomplished cannot seem to stop people from jokingly calling me shorty (but it still hurts) or guys to subconsciously reject me because they have to look a foot below them to meet my eyes. They all say height has nothing to do with anything, but in the back of their heads it's always a setback. When I stand in the mirror next to tall people, well actually, NORMAL people, how could I not see my truncated body?

I've always been a hard worker, receiving perfect grades in high school and getting a full athletic scholarship to a top university. My point is, if you wanna be successful, you can work hard and get results. If you wanna lose weight, well I think that's the easiest thing in the world (unless you have a disease) because it's one of those few things in life that if you do what you're suppose to do, you're guaranteed results. If you aren't satisfied with your features, cosmetic surgery can at least attempt to solve the problem. But HEIGHT??? No matter what I do I can't grow.

[skip]

Hi 5'2" guest,

None of what has yet been said is satisfying is it?

And I agree with your assessment that just because the 'researchers' believed people couldn’t grow taller, doesn’t mean that they cannot. Hell people grow taller every day. Some even 'grow' shorter. And their body morphs in lots of ways. In short I cannot disagree with the belief, that it is possible.

I currently have a client who wants their eye color changed. They read on a web site somewhere that this can be done. Someone they respect wrote it. They want to go from brown to blue. They completely ignore the fact that even the person they respect, who said they could do it, says that total eye color change hasn’t happened, that what you can do is enhance less dominant colors that are already there. This client 'wants' so bad, they just don’t read 'that part of the paper'.

I guess it is smart to be careful what you read, and know, you take it in, especially if you really want something badly.

But back to you.

Have you ever heard the old old song, "Five foot two, eyes of blue, oochie, coochie, coochie, coo, ..." It was a song describing this fellow’s ideal girl. Please dont ask what the "oochie, coochie" part means, it was before my time, but I imagine it was a metaphorical description of some 'other' attributes. Terry who is a bit older than I am, might know what it means. I wonder if he could tell us without blushing?

BUT truthfully you have already been told, that 5'2" isn’t bad, in fact many feel it is perfect, and you don’t go along with that. I don’t blame you. This is you we are talking about, not some other person. Someone else could be satisfied with 5’2”, but not you now.

So, I am going to suggest to you a two-pronged approach. It is what I would do, among other things, if you were my client.

First is to pursue what you want. Do it intelligently, as you obviously are, but go ahead and go for it. That is the only way you can have a chance at getting what you want. Do your homework, about whose product you choose, and try.

Try, with the same attitude that Mia Hamm, attempts a soccer goal, or Chamika Holsclaw attempts a free throw, or they way Pat Summit of the University of Tennessee approaches trying to achieve another national championship season for her team. They go for it, all out, and they put everything they have into it, but if they fall short of the mark it isn’t 'all is lost'. Life, for them, isn’t over, they gain so much in the striving, that ‘getting it’ is just so much icing on the cake.

So go for it, that’s the ONLY way you will get it, but if you don’t succeed at reaching 5'8", say you only make it to 5'6", or 5'4", or even 5'2 1/2", you are still a winner. You didn’t get everything you wanted, but you do get more than you could imagine, from the experience.

Do it, but do it smart. Places like this are excellent to help you achieve what you want.

Now for the second prong, and this is going to take some telling.

First we start with a fellow named Pavlov. The Pavlov was a Russian scientist who discovered that he could make dogs salivate, by ringing a bell. Now you and I both know that dogs don't salivate because a bell rings. What Pavlov did was to ring that bell, and then feed the dogs. Of course dogs do salivate when they see food. So the dogs became conditioned to hear the bell and then get food. Pretty soon the dogs began to associate hearing the bell, and getting the food. So before long the dogs would salivate just by hearing the bell.

The dogs became conditioned to associate an involuntary response, salivating, with something that has nothing to do with eating, the bell.

Now what in the world is this have to do with you?

Earlier in your life when you went about your normal daily affairs, or when you looked in the mirror, you really gave little or no thought, to how you looked, especially in comparison to how others looked.

At some point, however that changed. You see, during puberty not only did you begin to compare yourself with others, you did something that everyone, who goes through puberty, does. You begin focusing on your appearance, with a very, super critical, eye. You begin, without realizing it, to deliberately search for, and magnify, every flaw that you could detect. And not only did you search for, and magnify every flaw, you begin to dwell on them, and think about how terrible that made you look, and made yourself feel bad as a result.

Now it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out, that without realizing it, you did something similar, to what Pavlov did with his dogs, only you did it to yourself.

You taught yourself to look in the mirror, and see flaws, and feel bad about yourself. You didn't do this deliberately, but you most assuredly did it, just as effectively, and just as thoroughly, as Dr. Pavlov did.

Now some people will scoff at this idea, but you'll get point very quickly, if you look in the full-length mirror, and just noticed the first five things that you recognize about the person you see. Are they complementary things, or are they flaws, things that you wish were different?

The bad news is, you didn't realize you were doing this, and you didn't intend to do this, but it perpetuated a cycle, that taught you to look for more flaws, which reinforced the bad feeling that you had about yourself. The good news is, that you can easily change this.

Try this, just as an experiment. Standing in front of the mirror, deliberately find 10 things that you DO like. I don't care if it's the sparkle in your eye or maybe just a specific patch of skin, that has the right coloring, or maybe it is just one toenail that has the right size and shape. Doesn't matter what it is, or how minute it is, and just as long as you find 10 things you honestly do like.

Now most of my clients report to me, that the first time they do this, it's actually difficult for them to find 10 things. But that the more they do this, the easier it becomes, and the easier it becomes, the more they like to do it. And if you can't find enough things to get ten, with your clothes on, just imagine how interesting it will be, with your clothes off, finding things that you honestly like about your body.

If you will do this little exercise, every day, twice a day, within one week you'll discover that not only do you find things easily, that you like about yourself, but you will suddenly realize, deep down inside, that you are actually a very attractive person, and you'll be amazed, at how good that you feel about yourself. And all of this is accomplished without making any change in your body whatsoever. It has everything to do with your perception of yourself.

Now I'm not going to try to tell you that five feet 2 inches is the perfect height, or that it is even a good height. You would simply think I was foolish, if I made the attempt. I don't know what a good height is. I do know that if you want to be a star basketball player, taller is better. But that being tall is a disadvantage if you want to be a gymnast. When I met Mary Lou Retton, the most amazing thing about her, besides that terrific smile, was the fact that she must not be more than four feet 8 inches tall. But for what she chose to do, that size was an advantage, not a disadvantage.

So what I will tell you is, that even as you do whatever you can, to make yourself taller, you can also realize, that most of the perception, about your size being a disadvantage, is all your own opinion.

And we can learn something interesting about opinions. Opinions can be strongly held and difficult to change. And opinions can be fleeting, and momentary, and change according to whim. The thing about opinions is, that they aren't real, and when you get new information about something, then opinions change as quickly, as you change your mind.

And the beauty is, that opinion is just another word for belief. And when you're beliefs change, as you know they have changed, many, many times, you literally become someone else. Now, isn’t that a good thing?


skip

[Merlin]

>5'8, 120 pound stick thin whores...

and you want to join their ranks?

It's true, it's been eons since I was 5'2". I only know what it's like to bump my head on lamps hung from a ceailing everyone else walks under or the guy in the next isle staring in disbelief at my height.

I agree with you that acceptance of that which won't change is rough, heart breaking at times.
You probably have difficulty reaching for things on a shelf at the store at times. The 6' clerk stocking the shelf never thinks about it.

And yes, 4" heels is not the answer. They are quite crippling and do no more for reach than tippy-toes.
Tippy toes all day isn't an answer either :(

>But HEIGHT??? No matter what I do I can't grow...
or shrink.

I also have friends who cannot see colour. (hypnosis can help there too, on occasion).
Imagine not being able to tell if your red blouse matches your slacks (which being green are the same shade).

There are millions who diet, only to discover all their starving has left them 'pleasantly plump'.

There is an e-mail list on Yahoo for women who have large breast sizes, some of them JJ sized. Imagine hauling around those watermelons. Many get reduction surgery. Imagine their dispair as their bustline returns to original size or even larger.

I know ladies who have shoe sizes over 15!
They wore men's shoes for a while, but now even those are small!

I've know men who wore size 3 ladies tennis shoes too. Men 5'4" and under are not as rare as one might think.

But, back to you.
Have you checked with an MD yet to determine if your bones have fused? If the haven't there may be some hope for your growing taller.

Be ready to change if you can, but accept what cannot be changed. (none of us really know your own situation or what can change or not for you personally).

[eyp]

It's easy to say that height has nothing to do with appearance when you are not in my shoes.Well, it appears you’ve completely ignored me. I am a man who is 5’4”. It is far worse for a man to be short than a woman. (Hey, I have a question: if I had said I was 6’2”, would you have paid more attention to my post?)


Try telling that to the 9 out of 10 guys whose sense of beauty has been completely manipulated by the magazine ads featuring 5'8, 120 pound stick thin whores. I know I sound extremely shallow and bitter…Now I think I know what’s going on. You don’t want just any guys, you want tall, studly athletic men right? Oh, I can hear the violins playing your song… my heart bleeds for you. No, really.

Honey, you seem to be lamenting axiomatic principles here. (This is where I get a little philosophical.) People judge other people and value them accordingly. We judge each other by physical appearance, financial status, behavior, beliefs, etc. It’s by these value-judgments that we choose who we associate ourselves with. Or at least we should, lest we wind up resenting the people around us.

“Oh, that’s rotten, shallow and cold-hearted! Love is alms! Pure love is unconditional! Hot, studly men should choose me over better looking women...because...er...for no reason whatsoever!”

“If love is unconditional, then why don’t you pick a fat, ugly man?”

“Uh, well charity is good, but only when I’m getting the donation!”

Okay, I’m sure you’re not really thinking that exactly, but your grievance can only lead to that end.

Listen, if you want guys that are out of your league, you’ll have to compensate somehow and bring yourself to their level. And the first part of that is to get yourself together and stop being a victim. This attitude bears itself in everything you do and is repulsive to confident people (hot guys).


...all that I have accomplished cannot seem to stop people from jokingly calling me shorty...This will stop the instant it stops bothering you. There are many subtle and unconscious ways in which you communicate the fact that you are insecure about your height. People pick up on this and reflect it back to you. Please understand that although I’m no professional, concerning this particular weakness, I KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT. Seriously, my whole life was seemingly centered around the fact that I’m short until I realized that it didn’t matter (sometime around the seventh grade). Everyone around me stopped caring when I did. That was not a coincidence.


...guys to subconsciously reject me because they have to look a foot below them to meet my eyes.You’ve imagined this. They’re not rejecting you because of your height. It’s your behavior, which is a consequence of your self-image.


They all say height has nothing to do with anything, but in the back of their heads it's always a setback. When I stand in the mirror next to tall people, well actually, NORMAL people, how could I not see my truncated body?I started working out a few months ago. I bought a giant mirror and cannot stop staring at myself with this ridiculous grin on my face. Seriously, I spent like ten minutes observing and touching my abs yesterday.


But HEIGHT???But CANCER???

[EC]

Well 5'2,

>>None of what has yet been said is satisfying is it? <<

It's not often that I disagree with Skip, and I am not really disagreeing with him now in that his suggestions still brought you full circle back to reality. He sent you along the road to discovery in a most gentle fashion, even rolling in a little very creative cognitive behavioral therapy (checking the mirror twice a day) however, you are still putting off the inevitable of facing the reality that the physical size is not the problem, your perception is. You still have the same choice you have always had: Change the feelings or spend your life pissed at the world because you are short. I apologize if this sounds "short", no pun intended, however I believe that you need to be told the truth and that is that you might still feel small even if you grow to 6' unless you deal with your perception of yourself.

Which brings me to eyp's post:

For a non-professional, he certainly does know what he is talking about and he is telling you straight up. Once again, and again, it's what you have programmed inside, not what is outside. read his post well and follow his advice.

Very often the right answers are not necessarily the answers we want to hear.

I wish you the best

EC

[Unregistered]

First of all, I just want to say thank you for all of you who took the time to comment and give me advice on this topic. I really appreciate it.

To skip:

Prong one of your approach is exactly what I plan to do. I will listen to the hypnotic tapes every night, do kicks (supposedly creates microfractures in your knees), yoga, and eat right. I'll give myself the best chance of growing taller so at least I won't have any regrets. I'm think you're the first one to tell me to go for it instead of creating more doubts.

As for prong two, it isn't that I don't like anything about myself. In fact, I am satisfied with my success, my face, and my weight (I went from 130 lb to 102 in a month and a half cuz I was so disgusted with my body). The fact that I like most things about myself is also why I get pissed off about my height cuz I feel like being short destroys every other good. In a way it's done me good cuz I feel like I have to be that much better than everyone else in other areas to make up for my shortcoming. (No pun intended). By the way, I suppose that 5'2 song was pretty old, back when the average height of a woman was around then. See it's all relative. If the average height was 5'2 and most guys are 5'6, then I'd be happy at 5'2.

Anyway, You are right. People aren't born to have a desire to be taller. And you said yourself how powerful conditioning of the mind can be, which is why most guys' opinions are so heavily twisted cuz of shows like Baywatch.

But again, thanks for your encouragement, as well as your story about someone who wants their eye color changed. I'd say the degree of difficulty would be similar to that of growing taller.

To Merlin:

If nothing else, your comments definitely made me crack up, especially that part about JJ breast sizes.

Anyway, thanks for letting me know about the problems that others are having, including your personal challenge of protecting your head. How tall are you by the way?

The reason I didn't go to my doctor is to maintain my hope. A big part of hypnosis is that you need to believe you can make the change. If the doctor tells me that my bones are fused, I probably will think I can no longer grow. But since I don't know, I still have that glimmer of hope that maybe I can get taller, and that's the thought I'll take with me when I listen to those tapes.

To Eyp:

This is something that you got completely wrong. I'd rather date shorter guys than taller guys. I personally prefer shorter guys (no offense Merlin, I'm sure the 5'8, 120 stick thin whores would love to have you, jk). Taller guys make me feel too short. I'd rather look into the guys' eyes when talking and not have to sprain my neck when kissing. So no, I didn't ignore you cuz you are 5'4. I just didn't know how to say what I want to say in a way that would actually make sense... I know people say it's worse for a guy to be short than a girl, but when the problem doesn't concern you directly you don't seem to mind it. Like I've never looked at a guy's height when judging them (well, when I look at a tall guy I judge myself). But being short myself bothers me. Okay that really didn't make sense so I'll just give up on that.

About that cancer part, I'm not even gonna try to argue. There've been many times when I beat myself up over height that I've stopped and thought, being short is nothing compared to having nothing to eat for 3 days or missing a leg. But somehow my self-centered greediness will kick in again and somehow it seems that my life would be perfect if I was taller.

I'm glad that you finally got over your height. (7th grade - you must be really mature...height didn't even bother me until freshman year of high school!) I wish I could do the same. But 3 years of wise words of wisdom from friends, parents and counselors have done nothing, only convinced me that I am an unrealistic, insatiable, selfish brat who wants every part of my life to be just perfect. And height prevents me from achieving my ideal image. For now, I'm just gonna do what I can to try to grow. Thanks all!

[Unregistered]

To EC:

I think I was typing my reply when you posted yours, so I didn't get a chance to respond.

I appreciate your straight forwardness. Accept what you have, accept what you can't achieve, and get the hell over it. Most of the time, practical people like you will win over idealists like me, who can't seem to let go of the sappy cliches that "nothing is impossible."

Maybe I'm just lying to myself and growing taller is a futile process. But one thing that's true is that I've heard the straight out "accept yourself and shut up" speech too many times. And saying I will 'accept myself' would be an outright lie. I can't accept myself and trying to convince me would be impossible. As if we don't have enough cliches, if I don't grow, I'll die trying.

[eyp]

You're missing the point sweety. Your height and the possibility of changing it are irrelevant. Everyone here has basically said that your problem is a state of mind. Like EC said, even if you reach a height of 6' you'll still feel insecure.

Please note that no one said "accept yourself and shut up" or anything even remotely similar; that's only what you decided to hear. Also notice that you've written off everyone not encouraging you to attempt to grow taller (but not discouraging you) by relegating them to the class of "practical people." There's a hint of reproach in that, I think.

PS: If you like short guys, why do the guys you know "have to look a foot below them to meet [your] eyes?" There's no need to answer that. Also, I apologize if I embarrassed you with my tactless presumptions pertaining to your sexual desires.

[Unregistered]

I said guys have to look a foot below them because MOST guys are that much taller, which is why I prefer shorter guys. Makes perfect sense to me.

[Simple Guy]

Hi,

"Prong one of your approach is exactly what I plan to do. I will listen to the hypnotic tapes every night, do kicks (supposedly creates microfractures in your knees), yoga, and eat right. I'll give myself the best chance of growing taller so at least I won't have any regrets. I'm think you're the first one to tell me to go for it instead of creating more doubts."

I've no idea what kind of kicks you are talking about, but kicks that lock the kneejoint out (hyperextensions) cause damage to the knees. I know worldclass karate champions that are now hobbled by knee damage as a result of improper training that allowed their knees to lock out. I'm not an exercise physiologist, but I thought I'd mention this, particularly as you spoke of "microfractures in your knees." Your knees are important. You are going to use them to walk to so many places in your life. So, it's worthwhile to be kind to them and every other part of you. Wherever you go and whatever your height, I wish you comfort, health and happiness.

[Don]

Hi 5'2" guest,

Have you ever heard the old old song, "Five foot two, eyes of blue, oochie, coochie, coochie, coo, ..." It was a song describing this fellow’s ideal girl. Please dont ask what the "oochie, coochie" part means, it was before my time, but I imagine it was a metaphorical description of some 'other' attributes. skip



Well, I'm not Terry, bu I do know what that means.

The lyrics aren't, "oochie, coochie, coochie, coo." Rather, they're "could she, could she, could she coo."

"Coo" refers to the expression "bill and coo," meaning to interchange caresses which was said of doves--and also of demonstrative lovers.

Thus, the lyrics, in more modern terms, means "and wow! can she make out!"

[skip]

Hi all,

This has proved to be a very enlightening discussion.

It has brought out beliefs and the well meaning advice, based on those beliefs from a number of people.

First I would like to point out that the idea that we either can or cannot influence our height, either before or after the 'growth plates' on our long bones have 'closed', is a belief that we dont know for a fact. Just like the belief that the world was flat, that everyone "knew", until someone didn’t believe it. Now it could be a reality, or it could be a limiting belief, I don’t know.

So when asked about something like this, I look at my personal beliefs with the understanding that they ARE just beliefs.

I believe we can do anything. This, in the face of some rather obvious things we can’t seem to be able to accomplish. But I believe it, because I choose to, so that I wont be stopped from doing something I could do, just because I believed I couldn’t.

So given this, what advice SHOULD I offer our guest? One who apparently has already heard, "get over it" several times.

If I tell her, "Forget it;" I’m just another of those idiots, in her eyes.

If I tell her it can be done, then I might be steering her wrong, especially since no one has done it yet.

Fortunately for me, my brain operates based on the beliefs I hold, and so it started comming up with how she can accomplish more than what she has asked for, and maybe exactly what she has asked for.

We do know that certain physiological changes take place as we grow older. And we do know, from looking at x-ray's, that growth plates, on our long bones, like the tibia, and fibula, the femur, the radius, the ulna, and the humorus, and such, close at a certain point. And that once those growth plates close, the bones grow no longer, they might grow thicker, but not longer.

The question then in my mind becomes, “Is it possible to re-open growth plates?” Because if it's possible, to re-open growth plates, then long bone growth, to me, seems inevitable.

So were I to think in terms of making a CD for this lady, or for anyone else, involving growing taller, after the growth plates had naturally closed, it seems to follow that one of the things, that would have to be incorporated, in the recording would be age regression.

I know that lots of things that medical science considers over and done with, can be "restarted", using age regression. So it would be my belief that any tape or CD that did not incorporate age regression, would be doomed to failure from the beginning. And it would need to be age regression specific to an age, that was prior to when this lady stopped growing, and if for example, she's been five feet 2 inches since she was 14, I would think we would need to age regression to 12 or so.

So my advice to her would be, to ensure that whatever audio product she purchases, includes age regression, to an age that would work for her, not prior to puberty, but to late adolescence, so that she gets the type of growth she wants. Anything earlier would be a dubious value, and obviously anything that regresses her to a point after the growth plates of closed, would in my opinion be valueless. And that she recognize that she might get more than just long bone growth. She might see a continued broadning of her hips, and breast development for example and that she should keep in mind some ideal of proportionate sizes. We wouldnt want to end up 5'8" with 5'2" feet for exapmle. Her whole body would change more or less, it isnt like breast surgery, and she needs to consider the overall result.

I would also counsel her to avoid this micro fracture business. In the first place she cannot predetermine where the fractures will occur, and therefore in what direction any "new growth" might go. In addition she could, as has been pointed out, do long-term damage to her joints, that she would regret later in life. Re-generating bone growth by way of using the growth plates vs. using haphazard bone breakage, would avoid this potential problem.

So the dilemma for me, if I'm going to try to be helpful, in answering this lady's question, is not to a matter of whether I should encourage her to do this, or try to discourage. Discouraging her has already been done, and she is clear that she is not listening to that, and is not going to heed that type of advice.

So what is the next best thing? I suspect it is to help ensure that she have the best chance for a good outcome for her that, she can have.

The off-the-shelf type of audio product that she might buy, may not contain the specific requirements that I believe would need to be there. This may put her in a situation where she needs to contact someone personally, and request that they design an audio product, specifically for her. This in my opinion, would have a better chance of some success, as opposed to some generic product, but would also have her spending more, for something that has no guaranty. That’s a problem.

So if I were her, I would take something else that perhaps she wants to accomplish, that we can all agree hypnosis can do, and incorporate it, with the growth ideal, in combination with a tape or CD, that is custom-made for her, so that even though she's going to spend more dollars, than she would for generic product, she would have a much more assured chance, of at least partial success, if not complete success.

It would then be my recommendation, that this “secondary” goal of the ‘custom tape, be one that helps her with acceptance of whatever height she achieves. The ultimate happy outcome is for her to be pleased with however tall she is. This is desirable whether she only grows ½ inch, but also if she grows 8 or 10 inches more. And Im not talking about 'resigning your self to yourt fate' here.

I see no problem with reshaping (some would say reframing the outcome) to be “first choice”, growth to where she wants, but satisfaction with whatever she does achieve. So that either way, this lady can get on with thoroughly enjoying, the wonderful things life has to offer, her, at this age, and beyond.

Now to me, that is going for what she wants, but also satisfying the ultimate dissatisfaction she has, and ensuring that she is better off, for the entire hypnotic experience, and leads a more satisfactory life as a result.

Now this might sound like “Oh we are just going to fix it, so you are happy with 5’2”.”; and if it did I would reject it. Whomever she were to chose, to work with, must understand thoroughly, and be willing to go full bore, for her “first choice goal”, first, and only if that isn’t satisfied, fulfill the second.

Now personally, I think this type outcome is one that is ecological for her, and holds both her desire, and her best long term interest at heart.

Dear Guest, is this something that you would be willing to ask for, when considering your purchase? I do not believe you would have to compromise your integrity, or your chances one whit, by using an approach like this, and it stands a much better chance of preventing you from having simply wasted your money, and time.

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[Merlin]

>Prong one of your approach is exactly what I plan to do. I will listen to the hypnotic tapes every night, do kicks (supposedly creates microfractures in your knees),


Please don't try this.
More often than not it has the opposite effect.
You surely don't want to be shorter?

[Unregistered]

Thank you, Skip, for your recommendations.

What you said about age regression, it's actually exactly what one of the tapes I'm listening to is trying to do. I am to go back in time to when I was about 10 years old, when "my body is growing rapidly" and recall events and feelings associated with that time period. For example, in one scene was when I was 11 and I stood by the wall next to our kitchen cabinet in our old house and my parents did my monthly measurement of height. That was when I grew a half an inch a month.

I've tried to look for a live practitioner, but there's not too many around my area and the ones I have talked to had never done anything like it before. I have been pretty satisfied with the tapes. I have the sets from deeptrancenow.com and hyptalk.com - both are 6 CD sets and approach the issue from every angle, like tall visualization (seeing through the eyes of a tall body or seeing your mirror reflection as the tall body you are), imagining the release of growth hormones in your pituitary gland, seeing your body as energy and cells that can be rearranged and manipulated, etc.

I'll see how it goes. Thanks again.

[Runi_86]

Hey 5'2
I am an 18 year old facing the same problem as you .. I hope we can keep in touch.. my e-mail is Runi_86@hotmail.com .. ive got msn too if u are interested
hope to hear from you

[TeeJay]

Hey guys, I just returned from a holiday to find that I had lost my password, and since I have also changed my email address, I may have a long wait to get another (G)....I have read all the threads and postings I missed while gone, and decided that on this one I would not wade in with any advice, because I have no intention of wasting my time. This one is really stubborn, a trait I admire, but can't support when I see it used in a stupid manner. Just wanted to say that at 5'4" and with the best wife in the world at 5'2" I do seem to have led a wonderfull life over almost seventy six years, and my height has never stood in my way, except for the short period when I thought of being a police officer (EG).... Now, for the short females reading this, I would just let you know that my oldest daughter who is 5'1" I believe, is married to a 6'6" young man who worships the ground she walks on, and has no problem looking downwards when he gazes at her in adoration. Now you do need to know that she is not only a wonderful cook, but also manages to retain her figure, just as my wife has, makes furniture as a hobby, and is a homemaker only because her husband makes so much, she finds it useless to work, since all her salary would be lost in taxes...
Their daughter, however is 5'4" and complains about being so short, so you see we all have our problems if we let them fester.
Thanks for the correction Don, I did remember the song, but for the life of me I couldn't remember the words only the music, and would likely not have got them if you hadn't reminded me (G)...
For the short males, don't feel left out, we are in demand for who we are, not for how tall we are, and many taller guys would wish to be a little shorter if they had their druthers...Terry

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Damn at the stuff you can learn here!!!!!!

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[Charlie]

I know what you mean about height (kinda). I'm over 6 ft. They don't make shoes or... to make us look shorter (sigh). In flats I'm still too tall!

You must look very impressive in your wizard costume.........

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[Unregistered]

If it helps....
I am a 23 year old woman and I stand at 5' 3. Nearly all of my friends are 6 foot or more. These people have nicknamed me 'shorteous minimus' or 'shorty' for short (pardon the pun). If my friends pay me out for being short, my response is 'good things come in small packages'. Which I find tends to shut them up. I find I can move faster than them and dodge their playful attacks easier than them. So far, I have led a full life which includes a husband who loves me for who I am and a I have a successful career as a secretary.
What I'm trying to say is that unfortunately todays world is mostly based on what a person physically looks like, not what their soul, spirit or personality looks like.
I find that if I be the best person I can be and be who I want to be, I can lead a full, happy life focusing on the positives not dwelling on the negatives (and be on good terms with everyone I meet).
I wish you the best life can bring you.

[doug]

hi i am 6'3" and as a young man was regarded as very tall, but today am quite normal, as the height of younger folks keep getting taller,but, my partner"christine" is 5'1" and i look up to her,:) doug

[deeptrancenow]

Well, now that you have mentioned my website, I couldn't resist making a posting and for that matter you could've emailed me and other people directly.

I will tell you straight out - as long as you are wondering if there's any remote chance for you to grow taller with hypnosis, you're not ready for it because if you work with a program and you expect it not to work - guess what you are impressing upon your subconscious mind - an idea that it's not going to work for you.

So, instead of considering the purchase of any grow taller programs, I'd recommend that you first get some understanding regarding why you can grow taller. Just repeating "I can grow taller", while your reason is firmly convinced that you can't do that - won't do you any bit of good. You will always manifest in your body and in your life whatever are your PREDOMINANT beliefs, desires and expectations. And if you don't believe it to be possible for you to increase in height, you'll expect it not to work and you'll just be wating a lot of time in the process, you'll also waste money if you purchase any products, and the worst part is you'll further impress your subconscious mind with the ideas of powerlessness and that none of this hypnosis stuff probably works - and all of that just because you don't have yet understanding of how it works.

So, I'll give you few hints here. The easiest way to move yourself from "I don't know if there's even remote possibility that I can do it" to "yes, I'm certain that I can do it" is by getting acquainted with a worldview that will allow you to grow taller easily. If you hold onto the worldview that is 300 years old, and that medically science unfortunately still firmly holds onto - you won't be making any progress. The worldview that you believe to be real at this point in time is the one that was created from observing the movement of inert physical objects, from studying what happens to an apple when it falls off the tree and action and reaction between two ping pong balls and similar stuff. As it is, whatever intelligence an apple possesses, and whatever intelligence an animal possesses, they are not quite as endowed with ability to use their imagination to create outcomes. It is unfortunate that medical science still looks upon human bodies as if they were parts of a mechanical equpment, separated from the influence of one's mind. It is really indredible, too. One would think that if you were a human being who had a mind and was able to think that you'd come to some more logical conclusions, based on observation of how one's thoughts do influence one's body and environment. Somehow, our medical experts got brainwashed while they were studying hard to be medical doctors, and some obvious facts escaped them - they were blinded by the knowledge transmitted over 300 years ago - I don't know if it's out of loyalty to the status they have and fear to shake the boat i which they are so comfortably floating, out of fear to lose the position or money, but the sad fact is that 99$ of them are still knowledge-wise in dark ages.

It doesn't take any intellectual genius to become aware of the fact that you thoughts and emotions do influence your body, but it may help you if you pick some books on quantum physics - if you're an adherent of science - at least keep up to date with it. The new physics merely provides proofs that those who are spiritually inclined knew all along - that is that everything in the universe is made out of intelligent energy, including your body and that your thoughts are constantly re-arranging this energy'; that your body appears solid and unchangeable only because your physical senses register these particular vibrations as solid and that your body in fact changes all the time.

It's not that medical doctors don't witness as much proof as they'd like each day - it's that they are rejecting it because it doesn't fit their model of the world - the model of Newtonian physics, where they are still happy to live.
They have observed not only numerous healings which were based entirely upon the decision of the individual who apparently had terminal illness to fully recover, but also numerous cases of people with so-called "multiple-personalities" where with emergence with ech new personality something would instantly and dramatically change - one would have blue eyes, another brown, just like that, or one would be allergic to orange juice and another one wouldn't. Of course there is no explanation for such things in the model of Newtonian physics, but there is a perfect explanation in the world of new physics. Each personality has its own energy signature and body merely expresses the energy that expresses through it - so with a shift of personality, with a shift of energy, comes the shift in the physical body.

Now, even after you gain all the theoretical knowledge, that will be only a start. The next step is having some of your own personal experiences - using your mind power intentionally, learning to play with and manipulate the energy of your body intentionally, so that you can develop a conviction that you can do whatever you like with your body. Then you will know that you can grow taller and then you will be able to grow taller.

I'll just like to add few things about mine and any other hypnosis programs - whether they relate to height increase or anything else. The POWER is not in the hypnosis program, the power is within your mind. You are fully equipped as you are to increase your height or accomplish anything else you may ever desire to accomplish with your mind, with your body or with your life. The purpose of hypnosis recordings is to guide you through the process, to guide you through different techniques that may make the changes you desire easier and faster. I may compare them to a man who is temporarily using a walking stick until he is able to walk on his own. The idea is that one day you develop sufficient expertise in using your mind power on your own that you do not need any outer help, but can do whatever you desire on your own merely by intending it.

Do please remember always that the Infinite Love, Power and Wisdom are within you, have been always been within you and will always be within you. It is up to you to bring them into expression. You will benefit greatly if you'd sit every day for half and hour or an hour and just tune into that wonder that is already within you and allow it to express through you in your daily life whatever it is that you may do. As you do, more and more knowledge and wisdom and understanding will begin to emerge into your conscious awareness and express through you.

And I will tell you one more thing - something I kept secret until recently - I am so madly in love with this Infinite Love, Power and Wisdom within and I so much desire to help people to discover it, that that is my entire intention behind Grow Taller program - because you see, without getting to know this power intimately you'll not make any progress whatsoever, and once you do get to know it intimately, not only will you be able to grow taller, but you'll be able to do things that at this point in time are way beyond your wildest imagination. There are such great wonders within you, if you only knew, you'd want nothing more than to know this Infinite Love, Power and Wisdom within you.

Best wishes,

Laura

[Unregistered-2]

so what ever happened with the girl that was using the hypnosis CD's? have you grown any taller at all?

[duskarose]

Hi.. to the girl who is 5'2" and wishes she wasn't. First of all, I can understand where you're coming from. I am 5'2" also and it is something that has bugged me most of my life. I am trying to come to terms with it... some days are better than others..but I will say this..... you can be beautiful, sexy, desireable etc etc and not be 5'10.... shall I say - Kelly Ripa, Eva Longoria.... Eva was voted the sexiest woman alive.. yeah.. she wears 3 inch heels... but she is only like 5'2" herself....

When I walk in a room, I turn heads... even at 5'2".. and I bet you do too.... Hopefully you will learn to look at yourself as kindly as I'm sure others look at you!!

[ian69]

Others look at you the way you look at yourself. That is what "needs" changing, not your height.

FWIW I'm 6'3" and my wife is 5'1" and it's not an issue at all except for dancing.

[Don]

Ian, I know that's what you'd like to believe. But it's difficult for someone who is probably judged as tall (unless you hang around pro basketball players) to say what people will think about those who are short. You simply cannot relate. My own height is considered average, and I don't claim to know, either.

What I can say is that prejudice against shorter people is real.
http://www.shortsupport.org/Essays/MichaelCalwell.html

Can people overcome prejudices against them? Yes, they can. But it takes a lot of work and even then they are not always successful. This can be especially distressful in the workplace, where prejudice results in men and women who do not fit some ideal making less money, not getting advances, and not having their ideas taken with the seriousness of those who meet that ideal.

So I see nothing wrong with a person wanting to be physically taller.

BUT, there is another aspect which you make. Assume, for a moment, that you could wave a magic wand that would change a man who is 5'2" into being 6'0". Such a person would still be thinking like the shorter man. The change of height, by itself, will not make a person happy or content.

Rather, that person needs to stop thinking of himself as a small person. This can certainly be helped with hypnotherapy, NLP, or other forms of counseling.

Of course, that work could be done now, resulting in a person being happy with the content of his character rather than depressed of his physical stature.

In other words, the way one looks at oneself can be influenced by one's height. This can be dealt with via hypnosis, NLP, etc. The prejudice one faces from external sources can be struggled against, but it will probably never be defeated completely.

[VanBC]

Jeez, I keep hearing that stick thin whores are what everyone wants but the only places I see that perpetuated are in magazines, on tv, and in night clubs (which are a meat market anyway). I don't believe "everyone" wants any specific kind of person in the looks department. More in common would be the desire for someone you can trust, someone with a heart of gold. That is truly precious these days and hard to find as we so often put on a facade when we are in public.
I'm about average height, average looks (well at least that's how I see myself). I wish I could feel better physically like get rid of the tightness in my face from being stressed all the time. That is truly annoying. I'd like to live in an area free of hordes of traffic so I could spend more time cycling without fear of getting hit by some idiot. I'm probably going off topic but we were ranting, weren't we? :)
About your problem, my SO is 5'6" which is only 4" taller than you. If my wife was a little shorter, she'd still have a heart of gold and she'd still be beautiful in my eyes. I couldn't care less. It's hard to find someone to love these days, so don't point everything to your being less than average height. I had given up on finding someone to spend my life with and bam - I met my wife. We've been happily married for quite a few years and have a couple of kids. Neither of us are perfect, but many admire us for our positive attitude and outgoing nature. Our similar attitudes are a key thing that brought us together. At the time I met my wife I was still having some acne problems. If I had let that overcome me, we would probably have not gotten together and my life would be completely different because I let her get away. Don't let something like that happen to you - be yourself and I know there is someone who is right for you, loveable you.

[Don]

I have noted among some of the posters here what I consider to be a surprising attitude which can be basically described this way: "I don't have your problem, but I don't see what you have as a problem so just learn to deal with it. You're stupid to be influenced by the opinions of others." IMO, this is a rather amazing departure from the way most hypnotherapists approach clients.

I would just like to repeat that although I am of average height, my goal as a hypnotherapist is to help clients, not act like a religious fundamentalist telling them what they should and should not believe. My only caveat is this: is it ecological? If a person was very underweight and asked for help in losing weight, I would not do so.

But wishing to be taller is not unecological. Working with such a client--and I fully admit that I haven't--would, I feel, include both working on growth and improving self-image independent of height.

I would respectfully contend "just accept it and deal with it, bud!" is not a way to help people.

Supposedly in China, height is necessary to get certain better jobs. As a result, people are having their bones broken and being put on tables that stretch them in order to be taller. Sounds a bit extreme to me. But the fact is, in the West, if you're too short or too heavy, you may not get better paying jobs.

[Merlin]

Try this:

http://www.local6.com/news/4574140/detail.html

[parsa]

When I first read the news bit Merlin posted I thought it was a little bit too much. Stay six months in bed just to get taller? But then I thought a lot of people spend 16 years of their life (like to get a B.Sc) getting education to find a good job. And then they use only a tiny bit of all they've learned doing the job and the rest they normally forget.
So maybe trying to grow taller isn't that odd after all?

[Unregisteredyes]

If you are really serious about your shortness
and if you really want to see facts and real solutions
if you really want to be a winner in life then you will
have to pay the price…
Live your life with the rule: I only live and do and go where
the love coming to me is in abundance!
Never look for a job if everyone else is looking for a job
live only in abundance…..do the things that are in abundance:
Do a fantastic training.
If you are short and it is really a serious issue in your life
the most important problem in your life and you want a solution
there are many… but pay the price otherwise shut up!
go live in Japan, south of Italy, or anywhere you are one
of millions…. this is a real solution to your problem.
Can you take this and be happy?….Its your life….Pay the price
or leave it and be happy as is….. you know you have the easy
solution so you can now relax be happy because anytime you
can pack your bags and learn a new language and culture…
give it a smile and see the facts.

[beachrose]

Hi -

I am in a dance troupe with all kinds of people. We are very successful and popular at events, and seen as highly creative, open and welcoming. :) One of our members is 4-11, and while she sometimes pouts about her height, she is also super sexy, and I can tell you I hav personally witnessed men halting their conversations and craning their heads and stealing looks when she walks by.

I suggest using what you've got, and yes, I would also reccommend good hypnotherapy, or any other therapy (biofeedback, meditation, etc) that helps you access your unconscious, recruit your anxieties, and amplify your assets, inside & out.

By the way, being 18 is a major asset - use it wisely! ;)

[Unregistered o]

Don't bother to spend any money on those hypnosis CD or tapes...you could pretty much learn about how to perform hypnosis on your own easily wiht resources online, and easily make your induction tape as you want. I found this free hypnosis guide for grow taller ..it has stepbystep info on how to use hypnosis to grow taller http://www.hypnosis2height.com

actually if you should see a doctor to see if your growth plates are still open if so..you could look into how to improve your growth hormone ..check out http://www.hgh123.com

[Guest]

hi i am 6'3" and as a young man was regarded as very tall, but today am quite normal, as the height of younger folks keep getting taller

sort of true but only 4% of the male population in the US is 6'2 or taller so your height isnt the norm even today

[dano]

Sweetie,

You are right when you admit that you are self-absorbed. I think if there is a thing that needs fixing it's that. Maybe you think men are looking the other way because you are too short in stature. It's very possible that they are looking away because you are short of patience. If you are that critical of yourself then you probably are equally critical of others. You already have slammed men and tall slutty women so I think that is an admission of your jealous nature. You admit that you are a perfectionist and if anything in your life falls short of perfection then nothing is right. Right now the issue is your height. Later it will be your boyfriend's weight. No perfection is not your problem; inability to be satisfied is your problem.

If you want to find a guy then chill out. Do you like to hang out with hyper-critical men? Guys who are never pleased by anything? Guys who can't accept anything less than perfection in themselves or others? I bet you hate that kind of guy. Well, you are the female version of him.

So my advice is simple. Quit fixating on yourself and start thinking about others. There is more than one way to be beautiful. I've seen loads of drop dead gorgeous girls in my day who I wouldn't waste my time with because they looked and acted miserable and bored. Nothing pleased them. Nobody wants to hang with anybody like that. Marry them? That's a prescription for disaster. And until you start thinking of others marrying you would be a disaster.

So before hooking up with a dude start examining the world of humans outside of yourself. Start thinking about other people's problems and show a little sympathy there. Start becoming more loving towards others (which means letting go of your self-centeredness) and love will return to you.

You wonder why so many Hollywood divorces? Lovely perfect people without souls. End of Story.

Regards,
Dan Hearn

[Tall]

I want to become shorter, is there any way to do this?

I am very tall and hit my head alot on light fixtures and cant fit in sports cars, i want a sports car!

[Merlin]

I doubt it could be *safely* done.

I'd use it on myself if I thought it's be safe.

-Merlin, the giant.

[betterunborn]

Seeing this forum and reading the posts of several of you, especially the 18 year old lady who complained of her height brought back a lot of memories.
First, a little about me. I am a 25 year old female and am 5'5''. I am also a stats Phd and know the various "normal" distributions of height, though the distribution of people I hang out with his skewed to the left, I'd say. For that reason, I spent most of my teenage years and early twenties suicidal over my height. One would think it might be because perhaps I am overweight for this height but the truth is no, I am naturally (without diet) slim (110) or at least, normal. HOwever, my preppy background and circumstances led me to believe that I am undesirable and short. That is, I emphatize completely with the 18 year old lady as I have been there. Even at this age, and against all rational convictions, my heart diverges from my analytical thinking and leads me to believe that no man would want to date me because of my height. Another funny thing is that in the winters, I can disguise my height by wearing 2 inch boots and having my pants tailored so that the heels are disguised. Fortunately, I have relatively long legs for people my height but my torso is simply put, petite-that is, the bone structure is so, as confirmed by doctors. I also blame myself for having not been active enough and not careful about my nutrition during puberty-but then again, I grew up alone (without parents) and knew no better. Whatever the cause, I am at the height that I am and I hold a fading belief that I could gain a centimeter or two through exercise and visualization.
Good news is that I grew an inch after I hit 21 and I attribute it to exercise. That is I used to be 5 4'' when I reached 21.
Here's another optimistic anectode from me-mostlyfor the ladies but for all of you who are told they cannot grow once the bones have fused. I was 5' 1.5 or so when I reached the age of 15 and the doctor told me I would not grow beyond 5'2'' or 5 ' 3'' at best, even with hgh injections, which he recommended. I did not take these injections but by age 18 I was 5 4'', at which point my growth stopped. I was introduced to the wonderful and terrible world of internet at age 20 (yeah, I refused technology for some time and had a computer sitting unused from age 16 on; I even wonder i fI could have made it to 5 6'' had I discovered the internet before then).and discovered height growth exercises. I followed them religiously for about a year. The gain in height itself occurred over a couple of months and then stopped. I sort of gave up after then but I can tell from my posture that there's still a centimer hidden somewhere. Maybe it was a delayed puberty kind of thing as I experienced minor characteristics of puberty at thag age-with other changes taking place, which is in contradiction with other theories of growth. However, I know that this was partly genetic as my biological mother experienced a similar growth spurt at age 22, reaching exactly the same height as I have at that age.
Basically, my research indicates that it is not possible to gain height in the legs-although I can swear to you that my leg length increased when I gained that extra inch (but it's probably because of the natural structure of my body which is just long limbed). I believe that the spine may be stretched up to an inch. There's some documentation out there by medical professionals who say this is so-but max is an inch for ladies and inch and a half or two for men. The other recommendation is to take calcium pills and eat a lot of lean protein. I'll give it one more try.
The other thing is that this stretched height gain is only possible until we hit 30-some say 25 but I refuse to believe that.
don't despair, girls! I asked several of my male friends and they agree that height is not an issue at all, in terms of physical attraction. However, I am now interested in a 5 ' 10'' guy and am mortified at the thought that he'll think I'm too short. I'm trying to postpone our first date until the fall, when the weather is cool enough for me to wear platform boots and gain the extra 2 inches!

[Terry (existing)]

So many women who are 5'2", and all very different. We have some who are desparate to grow taller, and believe height is ruining their lives, while others are living very happy and contented lives IN SPITE OF BEING SMALL. Ever wonder why? Could it be that what we perceive becomes fact for us? My red has never had cause to complain about being too small, since I am only two inches taller. My beautiful oldest daughter on the other hand might feel strange at times if she bothers to think, since she is married to a young man who is 6'8". I have never known him to complain however. As a caring person, a father, grandfather, and great grandfather, I could be sympathetic I suppose, but I see no value in perpetuating the garbage thinking that makes a person unhappy and suicidal, when such is not nescessary.Incidentally, I have another daughter who is 5' in all directions, but has never felt the need to ask dad for help in slimming down. She likes who she is, and is loved by her family and her friends for that, and not for her apearance. I would never impose my perceptions on this very happy young lady, I too love her as she is, and would only help her slim if it would make her happier, and that is unlikely. Perhaps one difference here, is that she works with handicapped kids, and loves them in spite of how they look. To here they are not handicapped, so long as they can return love. Too bad you can't see it her way, you might find it refreshing.

[Don]

In a post on another thread I have commented on criticizing a person seeking a change and responses that have ranged from the change be disgusting to questioning why they would want the change at all. I repeat to my peers, I find this to be unprofessional.

If someone comes to us to stop smoking, do we insult them and tell them to just smoke? If they come to us for weight loss do we insult them and tell them to just be happy that they're fat?

Yet here, a person asks to be taller, and comments are "I know lots of people your size who are happy that way. Why can't you be happy, too?" Again, I find this to be an unprofessional approach. It is based on judging a person as needing to fit our personal beliefs. As I wrote in the other thread, we can refuse to work with them, but I don't think we should insult them or mock their feelings.

One thing that Terry points out that is very appropriate is that if we find something to be unsound or unecological, we can--and I believe should--discover if this particular desired change is real or only a presenting problem. Being a few inches taller or shorter, for some people, may not change their self-image at all. Perhaps we could suggest working with the client to change their self-image first, "just to see how successful hypnotherapy can be for them." Maybe, after self-image improvement, they won't want or need to be taller.

But to say "I'm short and I'm happy so you should be happy being short, too," or "I have a friend who is short and they're happy so just deal with it and forget your wishes, desires, hopes and dreams to be taller" is, in my opinion, of debatable professionalism.

I hope people here will take to heart the idea that merely because we don't like something does not mean that we should deny it to another.