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CoolGuy
07-04-2004, 11:24 PM
is it harmful if you are doing hypnosis to someone, and they fall asleep? i did an induction to my friend, followed by a deepening technique, then a depth test. the depth test was anesthesia, where i make his leg feel numb, but at the end when i told him to nod his head if he felt all the numbness gone, he didnt nod his head, and he was dead asleep. Or so it looked like it.. could he have been in a somnambulistic state of hypnosis? or would he still nod his head?:confused:
Terry
07-05-2004, 05:46 AM
Better change you name Cool Guy, you certainly are not cool.
If I gave you a table saw for instance, knowing that it was faulty, and was also missing the guards that protect the blade, and if you used that saw and had an accident, cutting off a finger, or even a hand, just how much of a friend would I have been to you?
What you are doing, using your friend in this way, is not cool, it is not friendly, and it is just as dangerous... Terry
CoolGuy
07-05-2004, 01:44 PM
so how do i make it so when i hypnotize someone, they do not fall asleep? and what do u mean using my friend this way?????
Persuasion Skills
07-05-2004, 02:37 PM
Hi
Sometimes a subject will sleep in order to prolong comfortable feeling of the trance state.It is a form of escape and not a cause for alarm. If the subject does not respond to the command, "now you will come back from your sleep, back to full consciousness, now as i count from 10 to 1 and all those good feelings returning 10 ....you fully awake," you may simply allow the person to continue the nap and awaken when he feels the need to.
They may be falling sleep, because you're using the word anaesthesia, perhaps you would be better off, using arm catalepsy as a depth test.
Personally, I have found a light trance, just as effective, for suggestions to work.
Regards
Marc
http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
CoolGuy
07-05-2004, 02:46 PM
ok thanks, and what is that Persuasion web site about? It looks to me like it could help for selling stuff, and right now im a door to door salesman. Would stuff on the site help me sell better?
Persuasion Skills
07-05-2004, 03:37 PM
ok thanks, and what is that Persuasion web site about? It looks to me like it could help for selling stuff, and right now im a door to door salesman. Would stuff on the site help me sell better?
It can be used in sales, hoever it is not a sales system, its a covert communications system that can be used in any area of communication, from therapy to relationships, to sales... ( you can see from my testimonials my varied customers!)
My background is sales and marketing, so my sysem was designed around persuasding eleganty using NLP, Hypnosis, and pyschology in a way that allows me to fully understand your needs and ensure that I meet them.
Regards
Marc
http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
Unregistered
07-05-2004, 04:10 PM
Looks like spam.
Persuasion Skills
07-05-2004, 04:27 PM
Looks like spam.
Dear Sir / madame
I'm sorry if I offended you, it is not my intention to spam, I was just replying to cool guys question.
Kind Regards
Marc
http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
Merlin
07-05-2004, 07:29 PM
Cool,
What is your induction method?
Progressive-boredom is an excellent sleep inducer.
So is the end of a tiring day.
No harm to a subject going to sleep, but it doesn't help either, does it?
If you carry on a conversation with him, he likelt won't go to sleep :-)
Somnambulistic hypnosis is *nothing* like sleep.
Have him do some jumping-jacks while somnambulistic.
That'll keep him awake!
so how do i make it so when i hypnotize someone, they do not fall asleep? and what do u mean using my friend this way?????
Other people have replied about the first part of your question. I'll give what I consider the second part.
Hypnosis is wonderful because it *seems* easy and simple. Would you experiment with brain surgery on a friend if it seemed simple and easy? Probably not because the question is absurd. Brain surgery is neither simple nor easy. It requires years of work, practice, and study before a potential brain surgeon ever does his first operation.
But consider this: the brain is a physical, measurable object. You can see it when you work on it. Where, however, is the mind? When you get a person into a hypnotic state you could be like a blind brain surgeon.
Good hypnotists study and practice for a long time, often at least with classes under professional instructors.
If you had studied enough with books or with an instructor, you would know whether a person who falls asleep during a session is having any trouble. So, it seems like an obvious guess that you have done little study and not received much practice or instruction from a professional.
I deeply applaud your desire to know more about hypnosis and the mind. I suggest that you take some classes and read some more books. Please don't tell me, though, that you can't afford classes. That would be like a brain surgeon operating on a friend without any training because he couldn't afford the classes.
Save up. Would you have to travel to take the classes? Save some more. Do extra work to earn the money to take the classes, pay for travel, rent a room, and have meals.
Unfortunately, for many people, this sounds difficult. It is. Remember, though, I said at the beginning that hypnosis only *seemed* simple and easy.
Okay, so let me go back to give my answer to the first question. Hypnosis provides profound relaxation. If a person is very tired, sometimes he or she may slip from the hypnotic state into a sleep state. Relax. Let them wake of their own accord. If a client does that, tell them to get more rest before coming to the next session. So no, you did not harm your friend...but you did take advantage of him.
Again, I encourage you strongly to increase your study! We in the profession need more interested and concerned people such as yourself.
CoolGuy
07-05-2004, 08:44 PM
Cool,
What is your induction method?
Progressive-boredom is an excellent sleep inducer.
So is the end of a tiring day.
No harm to a subject going to sleep, but it doesn't help either, does it?
If you carry on a conversation with him, he likelt won't go to sleep :-)
Somnambulistic hypnosis is *nothing* like sleep.
Have him do some jumping-jacks while somnambulistic.
That'll keep him awake!
i used a temple touching induction, followed by "falling leaves" relaxation technique, and then i did a confusion depth test (which worked fine because he didnt fall asleep yet) then i did the anesthesia one and then he didnt answer me when i told him to nod his head. so i just let him sleep, at least he woke up fine after 8 hours of sleep lol