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squeekie
01-09-2007, 02:31 PM
I am 56 and had my right hip replaced after fracturing it. I surf and now have a hard time getting from a paddling (prone) position to standing up . It is from a pain I get when I get near a 90 degree bend in my bad hip. Would hypnosis help to "ignore" ther pain so that I can get to my feet faster??

Don
01-09-2007, 02:35 PM
Pain is a signal from the body to the brain that something is wrong. To let you ignore that could cause more serious problems. Therefore, got to your physician and have a thorough physical, perhaps including X-rays, MRIs, and whatever else is necessary to me sure that there is not some sort of physiological problem that needs to be treated.

Once that is cleared, if you still have the pain, ask your doctor for a referral to a hypnotherapist. Your pain should be lessened or removed within a few sessions.

Terry (existing)
01-09-2007, 07:10 PM
Don said what needs to be said, but I might add that only the hip was replaced not the tendons etc which were torn and damaged most likely, and need time to heal properly. Your hip can still kick out on you by the way, I speak from experience of my daugher in law's mother who had the job done and went right back to gardening. When the hip slipped out, she lay in her rather large garden for hours before being discovered since she lived alone.
One other thing however were I tend to be much more careful that Don suggests you be. I never will remove pain completely, since as he says, it is a signal that something is wrong and needs attention. Removing it completely leaves the client feeling "cured", and they ignore the need for physical recovery before doing something stupid like surfing:D

Poodle
01-10-2007, 12:26 PM
is very correct and I NEVER completely remove the "pain". I put time limits on it and the client is given the ability to put it back if necessary. Have you even discussed surfing with your orthopaedist? Pood :confused:

Docresults
01-10-2007, 04:45 PM
I am 56 and had my right hip replaced after fracturing it. I surf and now have a hard time getting from a paddling (prone) position to standing up . It is from a pain I get when I get near a 90 degree bend in my bad hip. Would hypnosis help to "ignore" ther pain so that I can get to my feet faster??


Squeekie,

The problem (challenge, issue) is in the hip replacement itself. Pain comes in or around a 90 degree angle in the hip that was replaced, correct? Before I would recommend going back to the doctor or make any reccomendation I would like more clarification.

A few questions,

Does the pain come every time your are at a 90 degree on the board?

Has this always been this way since recovery from the hip replacement?

How about from the ground up? How about sitting or driving? Can you move your leg to a 90% and feel the pain?

Is it a sharp (dull or achy) pain, how long does it last? Is it the same way every time?

Once these questions are better understood the answer of how to use hypnosis and/or other measures can be better explained and reccommendations considered.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

"People say I'm a pain in the neck, my wife has a lower opinion of me." My Grampa Vetter

squeekie
01-10-2007, 09:10 PM
This was a work related ( workers compensation ) case in which in 2002 I fell 14' from an extension ladder slip and landed on my hip on the concrete floor and broke the femur head. The surgean tried to screw it back together, but 45 days later told me it didn't work.
He then cut and replaced the femur head with a titanium stem but I found out later that he didn't replace the cup.
I got a new surgean who ,1 year later, redid the surgery and replaced the cup with titanium.
The workers comp case has ended and now, I haven't been back to see anybody.
I have pain anytime I near a 90 degree walking , climbing stairs, ...
I had the pain from the second operation and the third operation. I tried telling the surgeans but they said it was "in my mind".
The pain starts from about where the spike end in my bone and goes up into the cup.
It is a sharp pain when the hip nears a 90. and dull pain when straight.
When sitting for prolonged periods my hip feels like it "locks up" and when sleeping and I get up it usually "clunks"
Surfing does give me great cardiovascular workout, upper chest muscles, shoulders...and isn't really that much stress on the hip. ( unless making a turn off the right hip on a large wave).

Poodle
01-11-2007, 11:30 AM
Sorry about the accident. Been there. Done that. One problem with Workers Comp is you have to stay in state which may not allow you the best orthopaedists in the USA. Did you sign your name on the case as being closed? If not, you can still go to another specialist. I'm guessing from what you have written that you are in CA or Hawaii. If you have not signed off on your case being closed there is a wonderful clinic in SF -- The Stone Clinic owned by Dr. Stone who learned from my MD's. It's cutting edge and none of this do-over mess you went through. Now, if you are in Hawaii, don't know and can't say. Something in there is obviously not right so I would want it fixed - right! It may be something minor or it may not. We cannot help you with the pain without a written referral from your MD. I personally do not feel that it would be ethical to cover up the problem when the problem could be fixed by a more qualified surgeon. That in the long run would not be doing you a favor and could even lead to a bigger problem. Wishing you the very, very best, Pood

Docresults
01-11-2007, 02:16 PM
Squeekie,

Now that I understand a little better where you are coming from I can offer you an opinion that is a litlle more in context (but remember opinions are like ______ we all have them) and I hope you can consider this in the mix of things for futher action.

The money aside, If I am reading you correctly there has never been a time since surgery number one through number three when you didn't have this pain problem. The pain is constant either dull or sharp.

Two doctors said it was in your mind. There may be a connection and I realize it is not your mind feeling it so you have proof it isn't just in your mind. If you are wanting to use hypnosis as a possible way to work on controling the pain or the amount of pain you should be able to have one of these two surgeons give you a referral for hypnosis, after all they suggested it. (The purpose for the referral is to give you and whomever you decide to work with some sort of cover.)

Then you can do you research around particular hypnotist and find the one you feel the most comfortable with. Hypnosis can be used to not only control pain it can also be used to get the body to make adjustments (sometimes referred to as healing, but we'll just use the word adjustments here) so that the pain goes away because of the adjustments directed by the mind.

You also have the choice to continue going back to a community of professionals (MD's, medical establishment, etc.) where you have already struck out three times in hopes of maybe, someday finding someone who might help you. Now-a-days some states only give criminals three strikes but maybe you and your body can handle more batter's taking a swing.

You have other choices of addressing your issue besides these two and yet you came here asking in regards to hypnosis in comparision to what you have done up until now.

Now bringing the money back into the issue. Out of pocket or outside of some form of coverage (insurance WC, etc.) Hypnosis or other supportive tpye therapies will be less of a strain on the pocketbook. Traditional medicine will cost more if paid out of pocket. And yet both supportive procedures and traditional procedures will take money out of one's pocketbook.

I understand living and dealing with the pain, I call it the Tin Man syndrome, we're always looking for the oil can so we can stop the squeeking. (My dilemma was my right hip and I really needed an oil can).

I could give other seasoned (experiential) advice and yet you asked about hypnosis on a hypnosis forum and I hope this has been informative toward your particular situation and I hope it helps you make a better internal decision.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

"Santa Claus has the right idea. Visit people only once a year." My Grampa Vetter

Poodle
01-11-2007, 04:43 PM
I cannot count the number of times the local docs here told me mine was all in my mind or the best one - I cut out what was wrong but I can't cut out the pain. To me, that is Doctor language for "I don't know". I knew it wasn't so I found a super specialist out of state, of course and it sure wasn't in my head and it took the super specialist maybe 3 minutes to locate the problem. Now last spring or so I had a guy call that needed a shoulder replacement and the local docs told him it would only last ONE year and then they would continually have to redo it. I asked him to please refer to my specialists and if they said only ONE YEAR then I would do it. Never heard from him again. Not all MD's are equal just as not all hypnotherapists are equal. They have done something in there that is WRONG and it needs to be corrected. My best friend had hers replaced last summer and guess what she did a few weeks ago -- repainted the whole house inside. It feels great. A number of years ago a crane fell over and landed on my next door neighbor's pelvis shattering everything. He's in good shape.

squeekie
01-11-2007, 08:34 PM
Thanks for all the prompt replies people. I won judgement in a third party lawsuit against the general contractor and my employer's workers compensation insurance company had a lein on the judgement. Because I said the general was at fault and not my employer ( acting as a sub-contractor ) in California you can not collect twice. I ended up paying $65,000 of the $125,000 cost to the insurance company and it was stipulated that the workers compensation would not have any more liability until the amount I received in the law suit was spent on future medical expences. I still did better with the lawsuit than I would have in the workers comp case as far as future costs go. At my age I don't see having any more than one more in my lifetime as they last 15 years on average. After 3 operations in 2 years I have had it with surgery.But I am going to take your advice and have it looked into. Thanks again.

Poodle
01-11-2007, 08:47 PM
My Mom's is now 27 years and they have much better adhesives now than then. The old saying of something hurting "bone deep" is really true, huh? Let a real expert look at it and if he says "dunno", then come to us and we will gladly give you the "power" over it. Last piece of advice, NEVER sign off on the WC case. You never know what could happen in the future so it's good to have a safeguard just in case. A friend of mine in CO did and she is regretting it. Best of luck to you and please keep us posted! Hugs, Pood :)