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Daniel
12-29-2006, 08:44 AM
How old should one be to attend a seminar? Im looking especially for a NLP practioner track, performed by Richard Bandler and Paul Mckenna.

Daniel
12-29-2006, 08:45 AM
And i'm only 19 years old.

tdiamond
12-29-2006, 09:21 AM
I heard someone went at 13 ...

Terry (existing)
12-29-2006, 11:38 AM
Forgive me, but at nineteen your education should be sufficient for you to communicate clearly and effectively, yet you ask one question, and then proceed to say that you are looking for something not related to the question! At least, that is what I read. You want to locate a track you say, which I presume is an electronic copy, and not involving attendance at a seminar, so why are you asking about the age limit to attend same? As for attendance at a seminar, I have never known there to be a age limit as such, though children are often not admitted for reasons of distraction and poor attention spans. Also, if you seem to be able to afford the course that the seminar is advertising, it is unlikely that you will not be admitted. If not you may be questions closely as to why you are there. After all, someone paid to put on this seminar, and wants to recoup the cost, plus make a profit.

Merlin
12-29-2006, 11:55 AM
For most trainings, chronological age is not an issue.
The #1 Issue is to not be overly disruptive. Not all instructors know how to deal with rambunctious children.

Poodle
12-29-2006, 12:33 PM
What a wonderful and fantastic time to take charge of your life. It's very enjoyable so enjoy it to the max. Now, as Bandler teaches on many levels at the same time, you may leave thinking you "don't have it", but you really do. Sometimes it just takes a little time to manifest into the conscious mind. These usually sell out quite quickly so get your name in yesterday. Take notes, participate in all exercises and you'll do very well indeed. Congratulations!! :)

Daniel
12-29-2006, 08:43 PM
Well thanks alot. I certainly hope that i learn stuff like anchoring and submodalities on this course, since I'm having some problems with them.

Terry > With regards to your post, I used the word track since there is both a Master track and a Practioner track! Aren't they called tracks?

Merlin > Of course i wan't disturb the classes.

Poodle
12-29-2006, 08:50 PM
I believe you are meaning to use the word "Prac" instead of "track". They do sound similar, huh. After training you will be a NLP Practitioner (thus, the word "Prac" to shorten it up). And then you can go on to be a Master NLP Prac. too. Kewl stuff huh? And you will definitely learn what you want plus a whole lot more. PROMISE! Pood

Jack
12-30-2006, 01:12 AM
Just go for it, Daniel, if that is what you want. The only restriction on learning how to use NLP is whether you have the intellectual capacity to absorb the information, and truly it does not take a lot, since most of it is done subconsciously. Applying what you have learned in a relevant and helpful way is a different issue.

If you want to use this for your own benefit, why not go along to an NLP practitioner and get your problems sorted out? It will cost a lot less than the McKenna course.

Jack

Daniel
12-30-2006, 09:34 AM
I don't got any big issues. I got a few, and i've been seeing a Doctor who was using hypnosis as well, and also a NLP therapist who taught a private hypnosis seminar. Neither worked really well. I'm generally interested in NLP, but of course I would like to be more confident, be able to use the circle of excellence etc.

And Poodle, i didn't mean Prac, I meant a NLP Practioner track! Like on cd's you can have different programs, but never mind.

Beside I can only have submodalities work at some time! Like it is state dependent! You might have a clue what I'm talking about? If I'm in a happy mood it's easyer to elicit other states like "Powerfull", "Confident" etc. How come? And is there any good advice on state eliciting in self?

Terry (existing)
12-30-2006, 10:13 AM
Daniel, you seem to understand the same meaning of track that I do, yet you speak of going to a seminar, ie (an introduction to a training or therapy session), and reffering to it as a track. If you purchase a CD with tracks, no seminar is involved. If you attend a seminar, you get a speaker, not a CD. Not that it matters, except in a failure to understand your post. Ability to clearly communicate is an essential part of hypnosis NLP etc.

Mentalius
12-30-2006, 10:14 AM
Hi Daniel

I was 20 when i first started to learn hypnosis, and had my first taste of NLP. And when I did NLP trainings, there have been a few about that age as well. Go ahead, and get an interesting adventure early on.

As the McKenna-thing, I think itīs a fun way to start out and it will boost your confidence. For a Master-track! Iīd go somewhere else.

And donīt mind the grumpy old ones on this board, they wonīt be around forever.

Happy New Year

ps. write me if you want some personal experience from McKenna/Bandler courses, and feel free to use your first language

Jack
12-30-2006, 10:39 AM
Daniel,

Just imagine if you could press a switch in your head that said 'happy'.

If you could you wouldn't need to worry about any of the issues, about being confident etc., because you would be happy, and all else would flow from that.

You think?

Jack

Poodle
12-30-2006, 11:37 AM
I am guessing here that you have listened to some NLP CD's. Is that correct? Live training and listening to CD's are as different as night and day. You are not a NLP Trainer or Master Practitioner so it would be best if you left the change work up to someone that is IMHO.

Submodalities come in three ways - Visual, Auditory and Kinesthetic
see hear feel
Visual could be: black and white, framed or panoramic, flat or 3D, moving or still, location, size, distance, shape, brightness, clarity and contrast

Auditory could be: Stereo or Mono, Volume, Tempo, Tone, Pitch, Duration

Kinesthetic (feeling) could be: Location, Intensity, Pressure, Area or Volume, Texture, Weight, Temperature, Movement

Now to change present state to desired state we have to know what submodalities you have and want to change and then the good old Swish Pattern will do it. In many ways NLP is so beautiful in it's simplicity yet so exquisitely complex as to change human behaviour.

For an example of submodalities used at their very, very best by the master himself I like The Personal Enhancement Series by Richard Bandler.

Now, if you look at the Circle of Excellence, you will find that if it first doesn't work, go in AGAIN! It's not a one time entrance.

In the meantime, feel free to read the postings here and maybe a few good NLP books like Frogs Into Princes by B&G. Merlin has books posted in her FAQ's that are good and Skip has made some fantastic recommendations.

There are also many kinds of anchors and they can be used in many ways -- as an anchor, stacking anchors, collapsing anchors, sliding anchors, etc.

You are 19 now. You want to learn NLP so what is preventing you from going to a live training?

Daniel
01-01-2007, 11:45 AM
Well Jack, I'm not sure what you mean about that.

Poodle I've tried these thing, but as far as I'm concerned It definetely does work sometimes, those submodalities. But sometimes it just don't seem to make any difference at all. And I don't really get it. Why it has to be that way. As a way of eliciting states i use the switch pattern: close my eyes and see a picture of present situation, and from the middle put op a picture of myself, Happy etc. and then step into that experience.

Now im getting pretty confused. Arent Richard attending to the NLP seminar with Paul Mckenna in april? He's mentioned as one of the trainers, but the seminar isn't listed at www.richardbandler.com

Poodle
01-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Let me ask this one question please. Do you want to learn with 100 plus other people or would you rather learn with maybe 15-25 people where you can have much more personal attention? There is no doubt that Richard Bandler is by far the best but why not put that experience off until later so that you can really enjoy him? There are many lovely NLP trainings in the UK. People from the USA also go over to train including Dr. Matt who owns this Forum. You will receive much more personal attention and maybe just get some of those problems taken care of in class. It's absolutely amazing what a great NLP training does. You will have quite a while yet to enjoy Dr. Bandler. If you look in the back pages of this Forum, you will see that the subject has been discussed. Now we get to the truth of the matter. You either do something or you don't which Jack wrote much more nicely than I did.