Self-Hypnosis question

[Grane]

Sorry I seem to be asking a lot of questions lately. Things are starting to "click" with me, I've been getting some good practice in, but it seems that the more I know the more questions I have. To be honest, it's an exciting time. :D

The question: if you're very familiar with self-hypnosis techniques and deepening techniques, can you run through "patter" in your mind to deepen yourself further? Does there come a point where it's best to have the conscious mind "check out" completely? If so, how do you know you didn't just fall asleep if there isn't someone there observing?

[Don]

And that, Grane, is the big challenge with self-hypnosis! You're sharp for figuring it out.

The simplest answer is not to go so deep that you "check out." The assumption you're making is deeper=better. For many things—especially those for which self-hypnosis works great—going deeper isn't necessary at all.

Remember, hypnosis is about bypassing the critical factor, your don't have to be in a deep, deep trance.

[Grane]

Remember, hypnosis is about bypassing the critical factor, your don't have to be in a deep, deep trance.

I'm coming to realize how true this is. "Deepness" and bypass of the critical factor aren't the same thing at all.

But here's a question I've never seen asked: what, then, is deepness?

If I were to make a guess: "trance depth" is a measure of how much conscious control a subject is exerting over their body. Less control, more depth.

I don't know, like I said that's a guess. How would you put it?

[Poodle]

complete conscious control. You are never rendered unconscious.

Depth is used for various things and mostly for removal of discomfort or major surgery with only hypnosis for anesthesia.

EVERYTHING a person does in DEEP TRANCE is done in the ordinary 'waking' state too.

The mind becomes super active in deep trance. I have had Don about falling out of his chair as he was sooo gone but his mind was working at top speed. (He was doing visual hallucinations).

[skip]

That is the problem, guys.

Depth is the absolute wrong word to use.

But it is soooooo ingrained in the field, it is likely to never go away.

You can do anything in the 'waking state' that you do in 'deep' trance.

BUT that is a lie.

See 'waking state' is one kind of trance and 'deep trance' is another kind of trance, just as is the trance you use when you step into an elevator, or when someone walks up to the stall next yours in the public restroom, or as you are driving a car.

Hopefully thiose arent the same trance you use when making love or you are a lousy lover.

You get the mistaken notion thast there is some normal state (like waking) and all the rest are altered (as in different from the normal state) states.

NOT so.

You move from state to state instantaneously all day long, hundreds of different ones, thousands.

I tend to liken hypnosis, not to an altered state, or a different state, or a deep state, but simply accessing a comfortable state and STAYING there for a much longer time than you normally might.

skip

[Poodle]

for that Skip. It is the truth and sometimes easy to miswrite. I stand corrected.

[Grane]

Excellent points skip, need to be reminded of this on occasion.