View Full Version : Completely new to hypnosis...any suggestions?
Teeka
05-15-2006, 05:55 AM
Hi there! I recently (as in, a few hours ago) became interested in hypnosis. However, I know very little about it, and want to find out as much as I can. It seems very interesting to me! After a little bit of reading, I'd like to try my hand at self-hypnosis.
Is there a relatively easy (and free) way to experiment along these lines? I have never done anything like this before, but I have an open mind and am willing to try anything as long as I know it won't hurt me or others.
The first place I stumbled upon was a site with a bunch of hypnosis MP3's. Do these work at all (for anyone?) or should I try a different method?
Thank you for reading and dealing with my complete "noob"ishness. ;D Any information or suggestions would be helpful!
==Teeka
teadaze
05-15-2006, 06:49 AM
Teeka,
Repetition is a great way of learning things. Adverts are very good example of this. If you listen to these MP3s then you MAY experience some change over a long period of time. That all depends on what issue you are dealing with though. If it is a specific issue then i'd say forget about it.
Correctly delivered suggestions given in hypnosis are instantly accepted. With a skilled practitioner the suggestions are tailored to your specific needs. How could this happen with a recording?
For hypnosis to work there needs to be communication from the subject to the hypnotist...not just the other way around.
If you are looking for 'free' things then you may very well end up with crap. If you want some real skills, seek training.
ian69
05-15-2006, 06:52 AM
Try this:
http://www.paulmckenna.com/download.php
I quite like it. Furthermore I find that the more I get used to trance/receiving suggestions though mp3s like this, the better other forms of suggestion (e.g. auto-suggestion) work.
Teeka
05-15-2006, 06:54 AM
Teeka,
Repetition is a great way of learning things. Adverts are very good example of this. If you listen to these MP3s then you MAY experience some change over a long period of time. That all depends on what issue you are dealing with though. If it is a specific issue then i'd say forget about it.
Correctly delivered suggestions given in hypnosis are instantly accepted. With a skilled practitioner the suggestions are tailored to your specific needs. How could this happen with a recording?
For hypnosis to work there needs to be communication from the subject to the hypnotist...not just the other way around.
If you are looking for 'free' things then you may very well end up with crap. If you want some real skills, seek training.
Thanks a lot for responding!
So if I'm willing to spend money on books or CD's to help learn, does it make a difference? And, if it doesn't, does that mean that one can only learn hypnosis from another, in person?
Teeka
05-15-2006, 06:55 AM
Try this:
http://www.paulmckenna.com/download.php
I quite like it. Furthermore I find that the more I get used to trance/receiving suggestions though mp3s like this, the better other forms of suggestion (e.g. auto-suggestion) work.
Thank you! I'll check it out. :)
==Teeka
teadaze
05-15-2006, 07:10 AM
Are you refering to self-hypnosis here?
For self hypnosis you can be taught with a GOOD practitioner in a couple of sessions.
The example used on this forum a lot is that self hypnosis is a lot like self surgery. Would you attempt to operate on yourself? Yes it may be possible...
Merlin
05-15-2006, 11:13 AM
That's why I created a FAQ.
Terry (existing)
05-15-2006, 12:18 PM
I will not curse, I will not yell, I will not damn this fool to hell! There I feel much better now.(G). After the first one thousand times, I stopped counting the number of those who asked for freebees that are worth anything. Fact is, the moment you ask for a freebee, you show that you place no value on your time or your mind, so my first question would be, "if you dont value yourself, why should we"? If you were told that an expensive operation was required in order to save your life, would you go online looking for a cheaper way out, or would you make every effort to pay for an operation by a skilled surgeon? YOUR MIND IS YOUR LIFE, so why be so cheap? If you were told that you had the choice of using the expensive services of a Psychiatrist, or spend the rest of your life in an institution, which would you choose? HOW MUCH WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO PAY? I ask questions because we are all different, and you may reply differently to someone else. Therefor the answers will be yours, I only ask the questions to give you something to use as a guide to were you want to go. If life is good now, don't bother to change it. If change is desireable, stop being a piker, and do it properly when you are able, be it via applying yourself to learning more, or using the services of a skilled person to help you change as rapidly as possible...NEVER ASK FOR FREEBEES, they show the value you place on those you address, and we are not impressed....
Teeka
05-15-2006, 02:45 PM
Sorry. Seems I hit a nerve. Please don't attack me when I'm clearly as clueless about all of this as I've stated above. I came here wanting information, and you can obviously give it without being mean. So why are you?
Scratch the freebies part, for the love of Christ. All I wanted was to know how to learn. You can say "Don't waste your time on freebies, here's another way."
All this is causing me to want to do is not look into it at all because the people I want to get information from are too rude to help me. I hope, if you're a hypnotherapist, that you don't treat your clients like this.
Teeka
05-15-2006, 02:47 PM
That's why I created a FAQ.
Could you link it to me, please?
teadaze
05-15-2006, 02:57 PM
>Could you link it to me, please?
One of the most important things you will learn about hypnosis is that it requires good observation. Fortunately for you this can be learnt fairly easily! Take a look at Merlin's post again!
Teeka
05-15-2006, 02:59 PM
Gah...stupid small text. I didn't see it at all.
Thank you.
Teeka
05-15-2006, 03:13 PM
Okay...so!
As I've been reading a lot of the posts here, and how self-hypnosis is comparable to self-surgery (as in, it can be dangerous to do on your own), I've decided to skip trying to find how to do it. I may grab some books and read about hypnosis and what it's like to hypnotise another person. Any hypnosis done TO me will be from a liscensed hypnotherapist.
I don't think there's anyone in the area, really, that does hypnosis. I'm in a small town and don't travel much, so learning from another or even getting hypnotherapy myself right now is all but impossible.
In any case, thank you (most of you) for being helpful.
==Teeka
pmdigi
05-15-2006, 05:48 PM
"all hypnosis is self-hypnosis" - i think i read that on these forums. please don't be so easily discouraged since even though the fastest way to learn self-hypnosis is to be hypnotised by a professional - it's still a form of self hypnosis and sometimes the universe helps those who help themselves. a pretty good book you might like to read: "the secrets of self-hypnosis" by adam eason - you can get it on amazon. the people here mean well - they wouldn't want to scare you off. take care.
Teeka
05-15-2006, 05:56 PM
I appreciate that. I'll take a look on Amazon for that book. :)
Hi, Teeka.
While I would agree that self-hypnosis, in some ways, is like self-surgery, I would respectfully disagree that it is necessary dangerous. Rather, it is simply more likely to be unsuccessful.
A trained and experienced surgeon can, in many instances, perform self-surgery very successfully. For example, they might remove a non-cancerous cyst. But the key here is that he or she is trained and the self-surgery is not something complex such as removing a brain tumor or correcting a heart valve problem.
In most cases, people come here looking for a simple (i.e. via self-hypnosis) method for resolving a serious problem. And in most cases (but not all), they won't be successful. Even if they were trained in self-hypnosis it might be quite difficult if they weren't experienced, too. Hypnotherapy can be complex for people who have little knowledge or understanding of the topic. So for something quite serious, I suggest going to a hypnotherapist and then using self-hypnosis to support the work of the hypnotist. This combination works great!
Merlin
05-16-2006, 10:55 AM
Hi Teeka,
You're just harvesting of the garbage from years of past posters.
You'll need to be patient too.
There's lots here if you'll just take the time to look around.
Merlin
05-16-2006, 11:02 AM
Often, a person is too immersed in their own sh*t to see where they need to go. For self hypnosis to be effective, you need to see where you're going.
Sure, you can learn to drive a car. That's easy.
But if the car has no windshield, and you can't see where you're going, then it is rather difficult.
Not impossible, but difficult.
That's one reason we recommend seeking out experienced help.
Someone who can see the blind spots you can't and therefore can guide you :)
Terry (existing)
05-16-2006, 01:19 PM
If you consider my post as rude, you missed everything I said, EVERYTHING. If you missed it all, why do I waste time with you, and it truly is a waste of time to communicate with someone who is incapable of using the information I offered, but only seeing the insult in telling them that they have something so valuable that it should be treated to the best. Frankly, all you are entitled to for such an attitude is to be ignored, so that is what I will do.
Terry-Terry-Terry
05-16-2006, 04:45 PM
I will not curse, I will not yell, I will not damn this fool to hell! There I feel much better now.(G). After the first one thousand times, I stopped counting the number of those who asked for freebees that are worth anything. Fact is, the moment you ask for a freebee, you show that you place no value on your time or your mind, so my first question would be, \"if you dont value yourself, why should we\"? If you were told that an expensive operation was required in order to save your life, would you go online looking for a cheaper way out, or would you make every effort to pay for an operation by a skilled surgeon? YOUR MIND IS YOUR LIFE, so why be so cheap? If you were told that you had the choice of using the expensive services of a Psychiatrist, or spend the rest of your life in an institution, which would you choose? HOW MUCH WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO PAY? I ask questions because we are all different, and you may reply differently to someone else. Therefor the answers will be yours, I only ask the questions to give you something to use as a guide to were you want to go. If life is good now, don\'t bother to change it. If change is desireable, stop being a piker, and do it properly when you are able, be it via applying yourself to learning more, or using the services of a skilled person to help you change as rapidly as possible...NEVER ASK FOR FREEBEES, they show the value you place on those you address, and we are not impressed....
Terry... what has happened in your life that allows you to feel it\'s okay to label Teeka a fool? While you might have heard or read this question a thousand times before it seems quite likely that this is the first time for Teeka. Maybe it\'s time for you to throw away that \"Old Hat\" yes?
Alexander_1982
05-16-2006, 04:51 PM
I will not curse, I will not yell, I will not damn this fool to hell! .
Oh man I haven't laughed so much in years, I was just trying to picture your face, I knew you were winding up for the pitch when I saw the inital post and WHAM. Your like Cerberus guarding the entrance to Hades (legitimate hypnosis). Wonderful stuff.
Teeka
05-16-2006, 08:58 PM
Often, a person is too immersed in their own sh*t to see where they need to go. For self hypnosis to be effective, you need to see where you're going.
Sure, you can learn to drive a car. That's easy.
But if the car has no windshield, and you can't see where you're going, then it is rather difficult.
Not impossible, but difficult.
That's one reason we recommend seeking out experienced help.
Someone who can see the blind spots you can't and therefore can guide you :)
That's a good way to put it.
In any case, I've ordered a self-hypnosis book that an above poster recommended, and will look into it.
In any case, thank you all for your comments... but I won't be coming back again. I feel like my questions are being judged unfairly by some people *cough*Terry*cough*. I'm apparently labeled now a "waste of time." I'd rather go somewhere that the forum frequenters are helpful and patient instead of rude and quick to insult. I thought I was being clear and relatively intelligent with my questions, but I guess I was wrong. Apparently if you don't know everything already, you shouldn't ask or you get sneered at and made to feel unwelcome.
In fact, I don't even know that I'll be asking any forums on this subject anymore. I'll just get books and do my own research on hypnosis.
Thank you to those of you that were helpful and kind. It means a lot to me that you'd go out of your way to answer my questions patiently and nicely.
==Teeka
Eliyahu
05-16-2006, 10:22 PM
If you feel like you need to leave based on a couple of responses you did not like by all means do so, but this may be a behavior you might want to make yourself more aware of.
By leaving, after all, you are giving that bully Terry(existing) what he wants! :D
Stick it out, this forum is a wealth of information. Just be a bit more conscious of what your questions actually are and how you ask them.
Observation Deck
05-16-2006, 11:40 PM
Teeka, I believe your last post regarding treatment towards new posters on this forum hit the nail on the head. From reading just a few other posts on this forum it appears that others have packed up and left after being subjected to similar treatment by certain Senior Members and/or Forum Team Members.
Good luck with your pursuit of Hypnosis and best wishes.
Poodle
05-27-2006, 06:44 PM
You are asking about self-hypnosis when you should be asking about hypnosis IN GENERAL. May I suggest Hypnotherapy by Dave Elman, Training Trances and, of course, the Complete Works of Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. It's wonderful to have someone that is interested and with good books, you will be very thirsty for personal experience and will find a good, qualified and skilled hypnotist to take you to the magical trance state. From there you will want live training. Yes, live training with lots of practice on other students while the teacher critiques your work. It's a most fascinating world and the more you know about it the less you know and the more fascinating it becomes as every human being on the face of this earth is DIFFERENT! Everyone has to start somewhere so start with the right books and the right names. Learn from the greatest in the world. While you are at training or with your hypnotist, ask to be given self-hypnosis. It's a gift I often give my clients and then I explain to them how to use it beneficially and well.
Don't mind Terry. People are often unable to read the wisdom in his posts. We get asked that question a little too often around here. You need to understand that hypnosis is a very serious business. Hang around, search the archives and find out all that you can. Pood :p
Nemesis Rogue
05-27-2006, 07:45 PM
I've decided to stick my oar in because of the way a post of mine was deleted.
For any moderators, this is a genuine reply with a genuine suggestion at the end of the post. You may want to skip to that if you don't like what's inbetween.
I edited out the personal material. Ill leave it to the rest of the forum to decide if Nemisis was being thruthful when he said this was a genuine reply with a genuine suggestion.
skip
moderator
Removed more of the insults.--Don
Now...I have some more advice that would greatly. In each section (hypnotherapy, NLP, TLT etc) create sticky posts on the most popular requests. It's far better and more prominent than the FAQ. So for example, hypnosis could have stickies like:
"Will someone teach me hypnosis for free? NOOBS READ!"
"I am confused by all the different boards and bodies. NOOBS READ!"
"I am interested in hypnosis but only want to spend $99. NOOBS READ!"
"I want to hypnotise people for fun, without them knowing. NOOBS READ!"
Etc etc.
Poodle
05-28-2006, 12:49 PM
You constantly complain about the forum but yet you are still here casting dispursions. From now on you are on my Ignore List. We have tried to help you the most possible but you are unappreciative. This is NOT a teaching forum. It is only a place for general questions to be asked and answered. Pood :(
Nemesis Rogue
05-28-2006, 03:38 PM
You constantly complain about the forum but yet you are still here casting dispursions. From now on you are on my Ignore List. We have tried to help you the most possible but you are unappreciative. This is NOT a teaching forum. It is only a place for general questions to be asked and answered. Pood :(
Complain? Two threads in which a certain member was being his usual unfriednly self. In this one, I apologised to the newcomer on his behalf - because as with many people he is driving them away.
Unappreciative? Read my replies to you.
Teach? I didn't ask to be teached. Not in this thread or the other one. If you choose to react that way Pood, be my guest.
cc_FF
05-28-2006, 04:21 PM
Thank you for reading and dealing with my complete "noob"ishness. ;D Any information or suggestions would be helpful!
==Teeka
retain the enthusiasm you have (or had) when you posted this post - the rest will then unfold happily before you.
Connie
07-31-2006, 04:42 PM
YOUR MIND IS YOUR LIFE, so why be so cheap? ....
I was reading some of the archives here, and I found this post. I LOVE that!! Can I borrow it? "Your mind is your life." :D It's what I think, too. It should be emblazoned on some t-shirts.