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Nemesis Rogue
05-12-2006, 11:41 AM
Hi all,

I'm newly qualifed in NLP, TLT and hypnosis and am looking for some extra insight to fill in the gaps so I can successfully (read: confidently) start practicing. Right now, I am more inclined to open up as a hypnotherapist as NLP just has too many questions right now.

I understand you aren't here to coach so I will just ask some questions. I started reading Magic In Action and Bandler is doing all this phenomenal change work with what mainly looks like submodalities. he says at one point that to elicit successful change, you need to change 2 digital and 1 analogue submodality. This is the first I've heard of this - and also the first time he mentioned it in the book. Can any one shed light?

Thanks

Nemesis Rogue
05-12-2006, 12:07 PM
I meant to say 2 analogue and 1 digital submodality.

Poodle
05-14-2006, 12:47 PM
You need to change whatever is bothering your client. If their picture is not big and bright, you change it -- 360 degrees, panoramic, adjust that lighting until it is just totally perfect -- the most perfect movie screen in the world. If they are hearing a nagging voice they want to get rid of, change it. Blow it out AND Change it to something fun like their favorite cartoon character. You have so many options! Maybe utilize the sound of a carnival. To quote "de boss" - use your brain for a change. NLP is not really meant to be hard work for the client -- it's friendly and makes things just change.

I personally practice mostly hypnosis but in my hypnosis I use an awful lot of NLP thus they are getting the best of both worlds. I would be hard pressed to say where my hypnosis and NLP begins or stops. NLP starts the moment the phone rings and they enter my door. Maybe they don't feel confident. Surely they did something in their entire life they felt confident about. Regress them to that state. Walk back into and start double anchoring that state over and over and over again. Then have them bring that feeling and knowledge to NOW! Instant confidence. Whenever they need a little extra boost of super confidence, all they have to do is touch that anchor you made. This can be used to change most negative emotions into positive ones as they surely have had that positive emotion at sometime in their life. After trance is over, practice the anchor with them. You are their expert so they need to be able to believe you!!

You say you have learned TLT. That is a powerful modality if you understand it and use it correctly.

Merlin
05-14-2006, 01:16 PM
> If their picture is not big and bright, you change it -- 360 degrees, panoramic, adjust that lighting

Do calibrate though.
What are the most influential submodalities for the specific person?
Otherwise, you could end up changing submodalities which have little effect.
While one person may get drive from brightness, another might use location or even sounds or feelings.

But, I'm sure you remember that from training.:)

lanepierce
05-14-2006, 07:18 PM
[snip]you need to change 2 digital and 1 analogue submodality. This is the first I've heard of this - and also the first time he mentioned it in the book. Can any one shed light?

Hi Nemesis:

Digital refers to states, like on/off, yes/no, happy/unhappy. Analog refers to ranges such as things measured on a scale, like weight, brightness and nearness.

Based on that, can you reply back with what is meant by changing 2 analog and 1 digital submodality?

Nemesis Rogue
05-16-2006, 08:18 AM
Great advice again Poodle! Thx

Merlin: "What are the most influential submodalities for the specific person?
Otherwise, you could end up changing submodalities which have little effect.
While one person may get drive from brightness, another might use location or even sounds or feelings. But, I'm sure you remember that from training."

Actually, I don't (sheepish grin!) I remmeber the phrase "the difference that makes a difference" but not sure how to go about locating which submodalities are important to the client. Any ideas, please? :D

Lane: "Based on that, can you reply back with what is meant by changing 2 analog and 1 digital submodality?"
I'm lost as you've just answered it. :confused:

lanepierce
05-16-2006, 09:10 AM
Lane: "Based on that, can you reply back with what is meant by changing 2 analog and 1 digital submodality?"
I'm lost as you've just answered it. :confused:
Hi Nemesis:

I defined digital and analog for you. I was wondering of it made the connection for you so I was asking if you could now answer the question. Let me ask it this way...

Based on what you now know about submodalities, which ones are digital and which are analog?

Not that I need an answer, I just want to make sure you have your answer.

All the best,

Nemesis Rogue
05-16-2006, 09:21 AM
Okay, well digital is one or the other. No choice inbetween: on/off, moving/still, yes/no, 3D/flat, b&w/colour.

Analogue allows for variance - like a spectrum. Analogue would be shades of brightness, position, pitch, loudness, size.

Hot/cold would be digital but as there are degrees of warmth and coldness it is analogue to some degree?

Merlin
05-16-2006, 12:05 PM
Nemesis,

You're getting to the point of asking for further training, which i'd love to provide, but it's just not practical here.

Maybe you could ask your original trainer?
Maybe get a book or tape training?
(THE USER'S MANUAL FOR THE BRAIN by Bob Bodenhamer, Michael Hall) or http://www.nlpcoaching.com/cgi-bin/online/storepro.php

Nemesis Rogue
05-16-2006, 12:39 PM
Hi Merlin,

I was jsut answering Lane. I wasn't asking for any further help.
Sorry if it seemed like that.

Poodle
05-16-2006, 06:32 PM
Thanks For The Link. I Had Been Searching For It!! Yippie - Christmas Again!

Poodle
05-16-2006, 06:37 PM
JUST USING AN EXAMPLE AS EVERY CLIENY IS DIFFERENT! :o

welshguymikey2
05-17-2006, 02:31 AM
Hi all,

I'm newly qualifed in NLP, TLT and hypnosis and am looking for some extra insight to fill in the gaps so I can successfully (read: confidently) start practicing. Right now, I am more inclined to open up as a hypnotherapist as NLP just has too many questions right now.

I understand you aren't here to coach so I will just ask some questions. I started reading Magic In Action and Bandler is doing all this phenomenal change work with what mainly looks like submodalities. he says at one point that to elicit successful change, you need to change 2 digital and 1 analogue submodality. This is the first I've heard of this - and also the first time he mentioned it in the book. Can any one shed light?

Thanks

sorry to not be of any help but that is the first time i have ever heard anything like that and dont even understand what it means by digital and annalogue submodalities could you shed me in some light so i can follow any replies to this thread?
thankyou
welshguymikey

lanepierce
05-17-2006, 05:02 AM
sorry to not be of any help but that is the first time i have ever heard anything like that and dont even understand what it means by digital and annalogue submodalities could you shed me in some light so i can follow any replies to this thread?
thankyou
welshguymikey

Hi there. read the thread and your question will be answered.

All the best,

welshguymikey2
05-17-2006, 06:10 AM
yea sorry i forget this forum is weird when im not logged in, it looks like no one has replied i thought i was the first one.

Poodle
06-09-2006, 10:44 PM
I really hate to throw this into the pot put it's just toooo funny. I was doing volunteer work for a major international charity and the local office leader decided she wanted a cell phone. She started calling the companies asking them if they had digital or "antelope". I rolled on the floor laughing. An antelope is somewhat smaller than a horse, has two short horns and runs all over this state. I corrected her language and was told: "I call it antelope!" I bet today it's still digital or antelope. Only in Wyoming! :D