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j-newbie
05-07-2006, 09:12 PM
I've read SEVERAL of the posts on this great forum, and I am interested in learning NLP. Being on a limited budget, I was wondering what do-it-yourself, at home training materials you all suggest. I was thinking DVD or CD, but maybe with some photoreading skills, I could learn more from reading. From what I understand, NLP is a very powerful skill which I want to learn but am not sure the best route... your input is GREATLY appreciated!!!

nUnregistered
05-08-2006, 07:59 AM
I've read SEVERAL of the posts on this great forum, and I am interested in learning NLP. Being on a limited budget, I was wondering what do-it-yourself, at home training materials you all suggest. I was thinking DVD or CD, but maybe with some photoreading skills, I could learn more from reading. From what I understand, NLP is a very powerful skill which I want to learn but am not sure the best route... your input is GREATLY appreciated!!!

Newbie,

if you MUST HAVE "at home training material" and (realizing that quality skill really only comes from "live training"), then I might suggest the NLP Pracitioner Training series from http://www.nlptrainings.com/products.htm
and understand reading is by far the more severely limited way to acquire skill (respecting the fact that you are on a limited budget)

Jim R

Poodle
05-08-2006, 06:24 PM
Please PM me. I will not endorse any do it yourself products on the forum but if you were to hunt down all my threads, you just might find something but adding up the total could very well be over what a training would cost.

You will only have the know-how with no "people" skills. NLP, IMHO, is best learned by unconscious learning. By that, I mean the information is "dumped" into your subconscious mind. You, of course, go through class and participate in all the exercises as that is part of the unconscious installation. At first you may think this is really stupid. What am I even doing here. You will find yourself using the skills and then comes the grand realization that you are using those skills automatically. This process could take up to six months or so to really kick in. Besides, NLP trainings are just plain old-fashioned loads of F.U.N.!!!!

You already may know what an anchor is alghough you don't know you know. Is there any special song that gives you a wonderful memory or warm cozy feelings or feelings of having just a great time or of meeting someone really special in your life. That would be called an Auditory anchor as every time you year that song something automatically happens to YOU! Commercials on TV have anchors in them so you will buy that particular product. Making sense here? That's the very, very, very beginning of NLP101 by Pood

nUnregistered
05-08-2006, 08:58 PM
Poodle,

you may think the skills were "dumped" in to your subconscious mind but the rest of those students who have learned partly from "unconscious installation" know better.

Jim R

Don
05-09-2006, 10:16 AM
Hi, j-newbie.

I can't answer your question, but I want to explain why--and it's not just because it is my belief that in-person training is better (although it is).

According to communication theory, there are certain methods by which we primarily communicate. The three major methods are by sight, by sound, and by feeling. Someone who is a wonderful teacher in one of those communication modes may not get through to you at all.

I don't know the mode in which you primarily communicate. Your brief post just doesn't give enough information. So you see, it's not just that one course might be better than others--the best course is the one that you'll get the most out of, and I have no idea which one would appeal to you.

So if I were to suggest three different courses to be sure that you would get the training I'm sure you'd like to get, the costs would probably reach and possibly exceed taking an in-person course, and that would give you better training than any course I've seen.

That being said, you can get all of the video trainings from Don Mottin, a biggie with the NGH, for $1,500.00.

Merlin
05-12-2006, 08:11 AM
Being on a limited budget, I was wondering what do-it-yourself, at home training materials you all suggest. At home trainings are very limited.
However,
It could give you enough info that you would decide to go further in your training.
With that in mind, consider:
The book: The Magic of NLP Demystified
Or one of Tad James' (http://www.tadjames.com) recorded trainings at:
http://www.nlpcoaching.com/product.html

unicito
05-17-2006, 01:18 PM
the most effective in home trainig is self-hypnosis and learn all the kind of stuff that you mind could do

Terry (existing)
05-17-2006, 03:08 PM
And they say I am never helpfull? The needed tools for learning at home are non existant really. You do need a wall, a good strong one against which to bang your head a few times. Keep doing it until you realise that all that is happening is you are getting a headache for your trouble. At that point you are ready for some common sense effort, because nothing comes for nothing, and your first experiment showed you this. Even the headache cost you time and effort. Now you decide to join your local library and take out some books. Now understand, YOU DO NEED TO READ these books, nothing happens if you wait for osmosis to set in. After reading some books, you look for some hands on training if you are smart. If not, back to the wall until common sense operates once again. You now know that there is a cost to learning, both in time and money, but if you want it enough you will find what is needed, if not stop wasting our time and yours, because every minute wasted is lost for ever.... There canned training for the newbie, and at no charge. Now tell me I am never helpfull (EG).....

welshguymikey2
05-18-2006, 08:20 AM
I've read SEVERAL of the posts on this great forum, and I am interested in learning NLP. Being on a limited budget, I was wondering what do-it-yourself, at home training materials you all suggest. I was thinking DVD or CD, but maybe with some photoreading skills, I could learn more from reading. From what I understand, NLP is a very powerful skill which I want to learn but am not sure the best route... your input is GREATLY appreciated!!!


i have not bought this product yet but i will be "theres no such thing as nlp" i have bought other dvds off him about 15 in total including "theres no such thing as hypnosis" and that is how i learnt hypnosis.
Most home training program like people say arnt good, it has taken me about 5 years to learn and be able to use nlp to a preofesional standard. Hypnosis on the other hand i learnt very quickly due to these dvds but think you may feel cheated if you dont allready know alot about different mind therapies. He claims its all a big con game and gives very simple and alternative explanations to why these things work. If it is deep knowlege you want and a balanced view on the psychology involved then joanthon royle is not for you, if you want to learn things quickly and be comfortable using them with little chance of failiure then he is for you.
I cant stress enough tho that although he gives these very simple explantions to why it works you should do alot of further reading to make up your own mind, i highly value his work but still believe that the true answers lie somewhere inbetween his explanations and the more scientific subconcious explanations. on most of his dvds you will find at least one thing he hasnt got an answer to and even exclaims he has no idea how it works it just does.

Terry (existing)
05-18-2006, 10:13 AM
"He exclaims that he doesn't know how it works, it just does". What a wonderful method of training. IT JUST DOES, At this point, I am annoyed that I can't use the term B...S... without it being partically deleted, since it is one term strong enough to express my contempt for the man. If he doesn't know how it works, how dare he attempt to teach others to interfer with the minds of the public and do untold damage. How dare you pass it on. I am tired of people using this board as a platform to advertise garbage that can cause untold harm to others under the guise of hypnosis.

No NLP for You!
05-18-2006, 11:26 AM
[QUOTE=Terry (existing)...If he doesnt know how it works, how dare he attempt to teach others to interfer with the minds of the public and do untold damage.[/QUOTE]Oooh, you really are not going to like NLP. :)

welshguymikey2
05-18-2006, 02:09 PM
"He exclaims that he doesn't know how it works, it just does". What a wonderful method of training. IT JUST DOES, At this point, I am annoyed that I can't use the term B...S... without it being partically deleted, since it is one term strong enough to express my contempt for the man. If he doesn't know how it works, how dare he attempt to teach others to interfer with the minds of the public and do untold damage. How dare you pass it on. I am tired of people using this board as a platform to advertise garbage that can cause untold harm to others under the guise of hypnosis.


have you even watched any of his dvds? i did say people may feel cheated by his information. if you have watched his stuff then you would know that what he does is not harful atall and you are talkign complete rubbish. The parts where he says it just does work include the human group levitation, i bet youve attempted it and if you know how it works then good for you please tell the rest of the world as no one has come up with an accepted explanation for it yet. Dont say to me how dare you do this, a guy asked a question i answered it, i have studied nlp etc for years if you dont like my opinion then just shut up or try to discuss it in a slighhtly freindlier way. Just remeber you dont know everythign there is to know about nlp and hypnosis and that one persons opinion is just as good as the next.

Terry (existing)
05-18-2006, 05:51 PM
You are absolutely correct, your opinion is just as good as mine. Funny though how you feel afronted by my disputing the matter of teaching that of which you know nothing except "it works".......Electricity works even if you don;t know how, but can you teach it? Would you promote a teacher to teach it knowing they didn;t know how it works either? Please allow that nobody is entitled to a free round, If I choose not to believe you, I have a valid reason why, and if you can't explain better than you have, you have not entitlement to being believed.

welshguymikey2
05-19-2006, 02:51 AM
You are absolutely correct, your opinion is just as good as mine. Funny though how you feel afronted by my disputing the matter of teaching that of which you know nothing except "it works".......Electricity works even if you don;t know how, but can you teach it? Would you promote a teacher to teach it knowing they didn;t know how it works either? Please allow that nobody is entitled to a free round, If I choose not to believe you, I have a valid reason why, and if you can't explain better than you have, you have not entitlement to being believed.

please make note that i wasnt annoyed that you disagreed, it was just the agressive manner it came across in whether that was intentional or not. Had you have written your previous post similar to this one i wouldnt have said anythign like i did in my previous post.
In answer to your question, can i teach you how electricity works if i have no knowlege of it in that sense? then no, but i can teach you to make a circuit demonstrating the cause and effect which is what royle does with his own interpretation of what happens. I would also like to point out that despite the succses rate of nlp it is still to the best of my knowledge classed as an unproven science, people can come up with all sorts of reasons as to why it works but as of yet no one person has been proven more correct than the other.
Please dont take my posts as arguments, i like discussing my own viewpoints to people who disagree to get a wider picture.

Poodle
05-19-2006, 08:48 PM
NGH has video trainings up thru Master Prac. for that amount of money? I guess I'll have to get out my catalogue and look. I paid around $5,000 and do not resent a penny of it but it was very live with lots and lots of hands on practice plus the benefit of unconscious installation. So much fun!

Unreg
05-20-2006, 01:58 AM
I wonder if Terry will ever learn any NLP.

skip
05-20-2006, 05:57 AM
You mean formally?

skip

Terry (existing)
05-20-2006, 11:40 AM
You mean formally?

skip Nah, I absorb it by osmosis, from the skilled members on this board. About the only thing I have that I didn;t work for (G)