How Would You Do It?

[Don]

So while lazing around flipping channels on TV, I came across an old (1945) movie called The Woman in Green. This was a Basil Rathbone/Nigel Bruce Sherlock Holmes movie, with a plot moved from Victorian England to what appears to be pre WWII England.

According to IMDb, here's the plot:

A serial killer appears to be on the loose in London and Sherlock Holmes assists Inspector Gregson of Scotland Yard in the investigation. Holmes is brought into the case when Maude Fenwick asks him to investigate her father, Sir George Fenwick, who has been acting very oddly of late. Holmes had seen him in a hotel bar a few nights before with a very attractive and mysterious woman. He traces her to a club for hypnotists and eventually to his archenemy, Professor Moriarty[sic].

The climax of the film has the woman from the club attempting to put Holmes into hypnosis. She says he is difficult and gives him a drug (a cannabis variant) as a sedative before the induction.

Okay, beside being filled with inaccurate information about hypnosis (the "only way" to be sure someone is hypnotized is to see if they are impervious to severe pain) it got me to thinking...

Everyone knows the type of "A" personality of Sherlock Holmes. The mind is constantly going. Probably slightly high on cocaine. Etc. Etc.

One genuine "no-prize" for someone who comes up with a way to hypnotize him. Additional "no-prizes" for the first person to explain why that method won't work. Final "super no-prize" if we all agree on a way to induce Sherlock Holmes into hypnosis.

[Poodle]

An instant from Speed Trance is specifically made for analytical people or so John says and the MJ should not make any difference as on the video he was working in a bar and many of the people he worked with were, shall we say, somewhat "high".

What's my "no prize" and how do I collect it??? :D

It really isn't too much worse than one I saw on The Mentalist wherein he put his hands on her shoulders and said: I'm not going to hypnotize you. You are too nervous. 100........99...........98...........GONE. (Yeah, right, stupid). As Skip is famous for saying: You cannot fix stupid.

Pood

[skip]

Dont need the prize, I work with a type AAA rocket scientist (genuine) every day and he still hasnt figured it out. I just let him develop his own trance and then utilize it.

Tell him to put a chair in the center of the room! Or some variant and enter into the trance with him and pace and lead.

Or nested loops if you can hold his attention long enough without leading him to frustration. Or give him a nice trance as alternative to that frustration ... he he he.

Better yet, Holms was obsessed with details. You could always offer him more than he could handle. He always retreated into trance when that occurred.

And how was it again that Erickson worked with Huxley? Told him the (Erickson) didnt think he could do it and so Huxley (being a genuinely noce person) helped him out.

Or so I recall.

skip

[skip]

Here is my own, "How would you do it?"

It is a 'challenge' that really isnt much of one.

You must put another person into a deep trance, sonambulism or 'deeper'. In my trainings it is a series of persons.

You cannot touch the other person, and you may only say two words, a maximum two word phrase, to them. You may say the words as many times as you like, singally or together, but only those two words.

What words do you use, if you use any, and what specifically do you do to accomplish this?

have fun,

skip

[Don]

two people posted.
Why wouldn't their methods work?
Why would they work?

[Poodle]

You have my TOTAL attention nnnnoooowwww....as usual. Was this in conjunction with all the NLP trainings? Ever so glad to have people like you and Houston to carry on that vast knowledge. (This is sooooo Skip as he doesn't like to stop at somnambulism when he can go deeeeeeper).

I'm thinking and may be totally off here that Cerbone has come up with a no word, no touch one....and would it work on an analytical? Dunno as it does take a little longer which could give the mind something to analyze as in the case of our Sherlock here.

Nested loops never ever fail as long as one somewhat understands the language being used. Wonder how the translators find them to use in other languages.

Do the ones I "dream up" in my dreams count? They don't have words. :)

Pood ;)

[Connie]

I learned a totally nonverbal induction, which I like. When I had a (surprise) deaf client, I used that. But it's also fun "for show." The two word phrase induction I learned (and also like) is the "that's right" induction. :) It is simply, when you see signs of trance you encourage it.

[skip]

Thats right!!!

One Attaboy for Connie.

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[Poodle]

Does "That's right" work on an analytical? Can't say I've ever used it outside of class.

Welcome back Connie!! You have been missed.

Pood :)

[Connie]

Thanks! I'm baaack! :) Two weeks in Vegas, what a hardship--not! :) Lots of fun. I learned a few new tidbits, but nothing powerful or earthshaking. Oh, well! Next up, the real deal: Dr. Bandler's live trainings.

[Merlin]

I learned a totally nonverbal induction, which I like. .only one?????????

[Connie]

Hi, Merlin! :)

Actually, it has several pieces to it, each of which is also a stand alone induction. But I sure like the "whammy" of this particular sequence of moves.

[Vin]

When is it appropriate (in terms of best choice) tu use a non verbal induction (apart from deaf clients)?
I learned one from a video by Howell, but i'm not really sure when it is advisable.

Vin