100+ days Face-to-Face Hypno Training anywhere??

[antonb]

It is really hard to find a full time hypno training for more than two weeks in a row. I think hypnotherapy schools are focussed on people that have a normal job and mainly have time at the weekends to study along the way.

Although I don't know too much about hypnosis I strongly think that practice is a really mayor part of it. So if I want to learn a sport or become a masseur I might learn it by myself or with weekend courses after a while. But it would so much easier and quicker to learn it well if I had a face to face training every day for months and not only 6 hours a week.

Probably it would be pretty expensive to have an every day training but if there would be a course like that at a <b>university </b>it will be affordable.

What about a 100+ day personal hypno training with a <b>personal instructor in a much poorer country </b>like e.g. Asia/ Indonesia/ India? Has anyone ever heard of things like that?

[Poodle]

An interesting place to start may be in your own country of India. There was a British surgeon in India that was using only hypnosis for total discomfort free amputations. His name was Dr. Esdaile and we have named some "things" in hypnosis in his honor. He was summoned back to England where he was told to stop immediately what he was doing as God created pain and only God had the right to take it away. Chemical anesthesia was discovered shortly thereafter or we would still be the ones in charge of all of this from all the operating rooms in the whole world and also all of the dentist's offices in the whole world.

What does it take to learn all of this? Not really all that much. One should be able to get inductions perfected in less than one day. This is easily accomplished by seeing and then doing on fellow classmates under the watchful eye of the instructor. That's the easy part. The training needs to be THEN WHAT????? This then goes back to a post that a member here from Italy made. NOT ALL INSTRUCTORS ARE EQUAL. It seems there are many that will take your money and leave out the core of what you really need to know and so you get some garbage. In the USA we call it GIGO. Garbage in - garbage out.

I only know of one person in India that has studied this in the USA. We have another member here that has "tried" some hypnosis in India and left greatly saddened. Not everyone in the whole world loves these things like we do here. We read every good book we find and even some not so good. It does seem to me that you have some "negative and limiting" beliefs that this should take months and months on end or you don't learn. Untrue. It takes as long as it takes YOUR UNCONSCIOUS MIND TO CONNECT WITH YOUR CONSCIOUS MIND TO FEED YOU THE INFORMATION YOU NEED. We are unlike like Western medicine. Person X has Y so I need to do A, A+B, or maybe even C. WHAT??? Every client we meet is a very unique person and has their own reasons for doing or not doing whatever they want changed. This was best stated by Dr. Milton Erickson, MD (father of modern hypnosis) that a "patient is only a patient because they are out of rapport with their unconscious mind".

Merlin has some wonderful FAQ's for you to read and we also have a great booklist to read. The booklist would make a lot of sense AFTER training than before.

THE BOTTOM QUESTION THEN BECOMES: HOW MUCH IS THIS WORTH TO YOU? You are the only person that can decide this.

Wishing you great success in finding that which you seek! Perhaps if you can get a group large enough together, Dr. Matt, owner of this Forum, just might make a trip to India. He has been known to travel.

Be well~Pood :pood:

[Merlin]

i can even teach the whole bible/christianity while you stan on one foot and hold your breath.
love God. Love others.
the rest is just commentary.

hypnosis is fairly easy
do the one week class.
then learn NLP... practitioner, master prac. etc.
then you'll know the direction to go from there.

hypnosis is an art, like wood carving. no amout of books will make you great.
it takes hands-on experience.

[Don]

I agree with Merlin (who wouldn't?), but I think there is more to be said.

She is correct. Hypnosis is fairly easy. You should learn to use at least three different styles of induction in your one-week class. Specifically, you should learn to use a progressive relaxation system, an Ericksonian system, and perhaps an Elman system.

Please note that I did not say that you'd learn just three inductions, but three styles or systems of induction. Many people today are going around talking about different inductions and they're all variations (and often very minor) on a few basic induction techniques.

Should you go on to learn NLP? That's a bit harder to say. Today, many of the teachers of hypnosis incorporate at lot of appropriate NLP techniques and theory into their trainings. So do you need it if you want to be a hypnotist? Probably not. Is it good to have more trainings of any type, including NLP? Absolutely!

And that brings up something that Merlin doesn't say. Hypnosis is fairly easy. Hypnotherapy is more about what happens after a client is hypnotized. Frankly, there just isn't enough time in 3 days, a week, 100 hours, or 100+ days to train anyone in everything you might encounter when doing hypnotherapy. You can learn what is needed by reading lots of books, studying lots of DVDs, and taking more training--just as nurses and doctors and dentists and psychologists do.

Finally, the origin of the story of teaching the "whole bible/Christianity while you stand on one foot and hold your breath" has nothing to do with the "whole" bible or with Christianity. The story appears in the Talmud. The story actually has many levels. It beings with a non-Jew who comes to Rabbi Shammai and says he'll convert to Judaism if the Rabbi will teach him the Torah (just the first 5 books of the Bible) while he stands on one foot. Shammai threw him out of his office. Shammai had spent years in hard study to achieve his level of expertise and wanted no part of this slacker who was seeking to become a part of Judaism without doing the work Shammai had done.

So the Gentile goes to Rabbi Hillel and presents him with the same problem. Hillel tells him what is today called the "negative Golden rule": "that which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow man. This is the essence of the Torah and the rest is commentary."

However, although there are overtones of patience, understanding, and wisdom in Hillel's answer, it also doesn't mean there's nothing to Judaism other than one basic rule. Rather, it means come and join our community. You don't have to start by learning all the rules. We will bend over backwards to let you in. We will be extra accommodating to you. And we will share what we know so you can learn.

Anton, I would give you the same invitation! Take a class. Don't worry about learning everything. Nobody learns everything in the first class. When you have that information down continue studying and practicing. There are some people who are butt-heads, but in my experience most hypnotists will bend over backwards to help you. And we will share what we know so you can learn.

Now, here's a bit of a secret: Virtually every professional hypnotists wants you to succeed! We want you to become great and compete with us. Why? Because there is so much garbage going around about hypnosis, if you become great and spread the truth about hypnosis, you'll get more people interested and actually end up with us having more clients. It's in our interest to help you become the best you can be.

So, go to it!

[Poodle]

I just finished "toutering" one who is now ready IMO to start a good practice and be a credit to our profession. Did not receive one cent but I feel as if I have a large pot of gold as there is now one more of us out in this world to do great work.

I was also yelled at here when I did wrong and taught how to do things right. There are still members here that know more than I do and when I need them, they are always here for me. We are a community of people from all over the world that LOVE what we do and we definitely want to share and see our professions grow and expand.

I disagree with Don about the NLP offered in most hypnosis classes. I read what people write and they really have no clue as to what to do with NLP. It is a shame too as NLP is extremely powerful and has so many aspects to it that can take it from use in a classroom to a clinic. It just depends on where a person wants to take it.

The 100 hours is a good beginning and then the books, CD's, DVD's, etc. will all start to make perfect sense to you. I do ask you to choose wisely tho as I said before -- not all are equal. Don has been very good about posting what he has read or seen recently so the remainder of us know if we really want the product or not. So far, I concur with his opinions.

Now you need to decide in which country you want to learn your new trade.

I just got back from another State in the USA and as of this morning I have three new clients that called today. Back to work Pood -- changing one mind at a time. One sounds amazingly interesting and I cannot wait to get started on that one. I LOVE a fabulous challenge where I can use all of my knowledge and stretch the bounds of hypnotherapy and NLP. So far she has baffled the MD's and the acupuncturist. Now she is all mine and I predict total success!! WOOF!! WOOF!!

Pood :)

[Don]

I disagree with Don about the NLP offered in most hypnosis classes. I read what people write and they really have no clue as to what to do with NLP. It is a shame too as NLP is extremely powerful and has so many aspects to it that can take it from use in a classroom to a clinic. It just depends on where a person wants to take it.


Poodle is correct on this in that I didn't make myself clear. I did NOT mean to imply that that you learn NLP in hypnosis classes or that hypnosis classes will necessarily teach you what to do with NLP. Thanks for catching this.

To clarify, part of NLP includes the understanding of hypnosis and practice of hypnosis from a NLP perspective. Certain concepts about hypnosis, that were not part of the corpus before Erickson and NLP, are now often presented within hypnosis training.

As a comparison, in studying plumbing, you may learn how to ground a wire from an electrical circuit and run electrical conduit. This doesn't teach you electrical contracting, just bits that help you to be a better plumber. Similarly, many hypnosis trainings give bits of NLP that help you to be a better hypnotist. They don't teach you how to be a NLP practitioner.

For example, before NLP, learning Ericksonian hypnotherapy was a long, drawn out process of watching and practicing, watching and practicing. With NLP came the "Milton Model" which categorizes aspects of Ericksonian induction techniques combined with suggesting methodologies. Almost all general hypnosis courses I've seen that teach Erickson use the Milton Model.

Thus, you get bits of NLP that are useful as part of hypnotherapy training, but that won't make you a NLP practitioner.

[Vin]

I did my training last year and I think that 100 hours are a very good starting point. A lot of things cannot be "formally" teached and you have to put your feet in the water and learn also from your mistakes. For instance, confidence (in your abilities) is a big part of hypnotherapy (and all human endevours) and it cannot be properly teached. In his book, Elman wrote that it was blessed by the mistake he made. When confronted with YOUR clients, you start developing the situation and not just applying the plan.
Being technically prepared is mandatory, getting things done in a real situation is equally important for your growth.

My humble opinion.

Vin

[domain]

Being technically prepared is mandatory, getting things done in a real situation is equally important for your growth.

My humble opinion.

Vin
Now that would be correct vin.