Hypnosis to Reduce Tumors

[Poodle]

Merry Christmas Don! Have you ever heard of the above? I am thinking if the body can create it, hypnosis should be able to remove it. Am I totally off base on this? Thanks, Pood

[Don]

And merry Christmas right back atcha, Pood.

The fact that hypnosis is not licensed by the government in the U.S. has been both a blessing and a curse. One of the "curse" aspects is that U.S. hypnotists cannot legally treat any diagnosed disease. As a result, hypnotists have to use all sorts of "work-arounds" to perform their miracles. We can't really work on phobias, but we can help with deeply-held fears. In some states we can't even hypnotize people, but we can help direct them as they hypnotize themselves.

As a result, to the best of my knowledge, there has been no scientific research on the idea of hypnosis shrinking tumors. My guess is that in some clients it will work very well and in others it won't work at all, probably due to unknown secondary gains.

On the other hand, there has been a tremendous amount of research showing that hypnosis can help strengthen the immune system and is powerful as a complement to the usual three methods of "curing" cancer: cut it out, burn it out, or poison it. There is also a lot of work on using hypnosis to help children dealing with cancer treatment.

[Poodle]

Thanks! I was asking for myself -- not a client so I would not need a referral from a MD as I would do it in self-hypnosis. Seems to be to be better option than getting cut on. In your debt -- Pood

[irisheye]

This is interesting as I'm a brain tumor survivor.

If I had listened to my subconscious earlier maybe It would'nt have gotten so far. Before my stroke I had symptoms like constant headaches,nausia,weekness,etc..I would always joke about it saying "Maybe it's a tumor" like that kid told Arnold Shwartzinager in 'kindergarten cop.'

Long story short,I had a stroke,they discovered the tumor,removed it,said it had been growing for 15yrs or better.

The moral of the story; Listen to your subconscious!!

I don't know if hypnosis can shrink a tumor,but you can scan your body in hypnosis and let it tell you if somethings up.

[Poodle]

Thanks so much for the link but right now I don't know if it is malignant and being a NLP Master Practitioner too I would really like to avoid the words cancer or malignant as thoughts do affect the human body and what the human brain expects to happen will happen.

[Merlin]

Hypnosis works wonderfully well with this application.

[Poodle]

Interesting -- I have the pc set up to deliver any article written on hypnosis or hypnotherapy to my inbox. Tonight one appeared from India. Beside it was a very small ad from American Pacific so I clicked on it. It was more on Time Line Therapy and NLP but did state that they work very well for this problem, especially TLT. Now I have the problem of finding anyone besides myself that knows anything about these two modalities where I live. I seem to be the village cobbler that has no shoes.

[Merlin]

Where do you live?

[Terry (existing)]

Poodle, I am sure you have a valid reason for your question, and I would like to help, but something is puzzling me. You seem to be skilled in hypnosis from what you have written, so I find it strange that you don't use basic methods here. Is there a problem in visualizing? If so, other basic methods exist, such as tactile reduction, or leaving it to your subconcious to find the best method. I will not offer step by step therapy online, but if you are skilled what I have said to date is sufficient for you to benifit from....

[Poodle]

Terry, problem is that I am not that skilled at self-hypnosis which is an undertaking of just this past month. You are correct that I am a very skilled hypnotist especially on clinical issues, not to mention a Master NLP Practitioner, RMT, etc., etc.. I did purchase a DVD from Omni on Teaching Self-Hypnosis with the thought of "if I can teach it, I surely can do it". Must admit I've been a little to under the weather to pay too much time to it. Maybe tonight. This is the only flaw that I can find in all of my training. I e'd one of the CI's and he said he had to do it once and tried a Modified Dave Elman on himself in front of a mirror. Didn't work for me. Meanwhile I am just visualizing it growing smaller with every breath I take and growing dim and distant until it no longer exists combined with a lot of NLP language self-talk.

I would like to thank everyone on this forum for their help! You have all been great and very much appreciated.

[skip]

Pood,

Google "The Betty Erickson Induction" or "Betty Erickson Self Hypnosis Induction", or some such around that.

Betty was Milton's wife and quite accomplished in her own right. She had a favorite self hypnosis induction that many people have found useful.

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[Terry (existing)]

OK you are using the usual method, and if you are able to visualise you should have no problem except one, and that is the feeling someone else could do it better, I used to have that problem also. Now I know I can do it better for myself than anyone else can, so for me the problem doesn't exist. If it does for you, not only visualise, but also feel pulsing as your body rejects the growth, it adds to the effectiveness when you can use more than one sense to work for you. I don't like the part of it getting smaller with every breath though, that is too fast to be acceptable, try seeing it smaller each time you enter trance, and do it twice daily if you can, while feeling the pulsing as often as you remember to think about it, it is much more effective than just the visual. Being different, you may preffer the visual you are using, and if so, suggest that oxygen is the tool of reduction, since your mind must have a valid reason for accepting the smaller with each breath suggestion, and oxygen is a burning agent in the body. All too often, the practitioner fails to understand that a valid suggestion must be one that makes some sort of sense to the subconcious..... If I am right, and I usually am, you will feel as if someone else has intervened and corrected your method, and therefor you have a partner in your efforts (G)......Good luck........

[Poodle]

Thanks Skip. I do know the B. E. induction and find it very lacking for myself. I practiced it all last summer and could not get it to work. I think I will just go with Terry's suggestion to add the oxygen. You guys are GREAT and I appreciate all the help. One thing I don't have on my side now is time as I'm sure the surgeon is going to remove it together with who knows what ASAP after Jan. 2. I have fought this battle once before and the cost was a cool half mill to win and I just don't know how much crap I am willing to put up with now.

[Simple Guy]

May I ask my friends here to take prayer time (if that's what you
do or can do), or simply to send all good energy in whatever way
you know to do so, for Poodle?

I'll be doing this. Feel free to post that you will do the same.

Thanks.

[twelveways]

Sorry I dont have anything useful to say, but I would like to offer my thoughts to you Poodle.

Take care.:)

[irisheye]

I will be sending the inner smile your way:)

[Poodle]

Thank you so much. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!! Pood

[Poodle]

Hi All, my Dr. is back and quite puzzled!! Not only is the tumor gone he cannot find any cancerous cells anywhere where he was sure they would be. I do have to have a surgery to remove the damaged part (there is now scar tissue) but that's no biggie. I know I owe it all to you for helping me thru this and helping my mind eliminate the problem. Besides the well thoughts, I really think the addition of the oxygen really did it!! I must say the poor man is wondering exactly what happened while he was gone and quite frankly said he just doesn't understand but we'll just be quiet and not tell him although he does believe in alternative medicine. Thank each and every one of you!! I'll still be around being my obnoxious self!! Who says NLP and self-hypnosis don't work!! Thanks to all, A Big Hug, Pood (Anne)

[Simple Guy]

Poodle,

Yes! :)

[skip]

Pood,

Congrats.

Perhaps you could reframe your doc. Hypnosis isnt alternative medicine, no healing modality ever is alternative. :)

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[Terry (existing)]

Glad but not surprised, Congratulations......(S)

[kosmic]

awesome pood!

I am very happy for you, and i'm sure you've learned a lot from the experience. Do you think you could post to us some details about the experience so we could learn too?

[Alonso]

:o wow, I'm glad you're ok now anne

[Poodle]

It was easy with Terry's suggestion. I had been visualizing or imagining it growing dimmer and smaller until it did not exist; however, with Terry's suggestion to use oxygen to burn it out and my subconscious had a few all night sessions carrying out my expressed instructions, i.e., the oxygen is burning it out so it no longer exists it just up and disappeared but I did not think to include scar tissue while I was at it so from a learning experience I know I have to include all remaining scar tissue. Alonso, in the USA anything that is NOT western medicine is considered alternative medicine. This country believes very strongly in western medicine but not in any other form. I know for sure countries in Europe are much more advanced in these ideas than the average American citizen.

As for NLP, a person's idea about themselves is very easy to deny the very existence of such a thing. Therefore, I was working by day on it with NLP and by night with hypnosis. It all goes back to "what the mind expects to happen will happen". I was totally expecting a positive outcome and I got it!! Besides, I had an awful lot of help from this Forum!!

[aboutpeople]

For those of you interested in the scientific support of using hypnosis in this way, you might find this article useful:

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/05.08/01-hypnosis.html (http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/05.08/01-hypnosis.html)

Notice that it is from the Harvard Gazette.

Enjoy,
Michael

[Jack]

Hello Poodle,

Sorry to hear about your problem. Are you in the UK? If so I may be able to recommend someone to work with you. Otherwise, Stephen Parkhill in the US has had some success with shrinkage and remission.

Jack