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wasifooled?
11-08-2005, 11:02 AM
Don
I understand you are an expert magician. I would like to ask if something can be done with magic. Iam nOT asking you to say how, only if it is possible
Some years ago I met a lady who claimed occult powers. Over a coffee in London we were discussing her beliefs. She took my left hand, palm up, with her right hand palm down and said she wanted to read my palm. She held my hand by the fingers. Then she held her hand, palm downward, about 3 inches over my palm upward hand and after about a few seconds i said ouch and pulled my hand away as it was like being burned, like the feeling of holding ones hand over a candle. I felt this only in the centre of my palm not where she had touched me
Was I fooled? Could this be a trick? As stated I do not ask you to reveal any secrets or how. I am just curious, never could figure it out. Considered a chemical but she did not touch where I felt the burnig sensation.
I hope that posting this for your attention is not against forum rules. I am happpy to read input by anyone but marked it for your attention as I read you are well versed in magic
Thanks for reading
Sure.
While it could have been place in another forum, I'll answer it here.
Yes, it absolutely can be done. There are methods which use suggestion (not always successful), electricity (kinda clunky, tho), and chemicals (some versions are safer than others).
However, not seeing it or being there, it would be impossible for me to say whether she used any particular form...or maybe she just had psychic powers!
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Pdrive
11-09-2005, 12:02 AM
> or maybe she just had psychic powers!
... nice Don... after our discussion, im glad to see you keeping the hope alive.... not...
:D
An error frequently made by debunkers is the assumption that because something can be faked that it has been faked.
It is possible to do what wasifooled described with various magic tricks. What that how she did it? I don't know. I didn't see her performance.
Once, a person told me that they had seen a magician do a trick where a card was chosen by a spectator and returned to the deck. The magician held the deck flat in his hand and a card shot out for the deck, flew three times around the room, and ended up sticking to the magician's forehead!
That would have been an amazing trick if the magician had actually done it. But that wasn't the effect at all. In fact, it was a mixing of two tricks with his own imagination. How did I know? I asked the person for some more information about the show.
I was the magician!
wasifooled?
11-09-2005, 10:49 AM
Don
Thanks for answering my query Sorry it was in the wrong forum.
Regards
There should always be mystery, Don, to fill the seats of theatres. A secondary function is to ensure that people continue to have a sense of wonder in an increasingly banal world. Or am I just getting old?
Jack
Simple Guy
11-09-2005, 01:39 PM
Guest,
In addition to Don's reply, I'll add that hand heat can be
increased via autogenic and other training. Heat sensitivity in a
perceiver's hand can be heightened via covert suggestion, etc.
Synergistically, these things could leave someone with the experience
of "holding ones hand over a candle."
Personally, I agree with you, Jack. People need wonder in their lives, and even if they "know" it's a trick, letting people wonder that maybe, just maybe it's real is something postive and good. The debunkers--cynical, fun-hating moralists in scientific drag--don't recognize or understant this.
Many magicians don't understand it, either. As a result, in most instances magic is presents as either part of a comedy act or with the attitude of isn't-pulling-a-person-out-of-a-trap-door-in-a-box-wonderful?! Thankfully, more and more magicians are trying to put the magic back into magic. Of big names, DB is one, Jeff McBride is another, Cris Angel is a third.
touch of paint stripper! Its easy to do, apply to edge of your cuff or a tiny bit of paper (discard with once used). Then brush the paint stripper gently accross the skin surface, takes a second or two before it burns like a son of a gun. Victim rubs hand hard from the sudden heat rubbing the tiny paste to nothing.
I dont reccomend anyone ever tries this, it was a trick done in University for giggles on usually drunk subjects! In days of old...
Although there are probably several selections of chemicals that can create this effect, the most famous (among magicians in the know) involves the use of very toxic chemicals. That's one of the reasons I won't list them here. I have no way of knowing who might get into them.