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Youaregettingsleepy
10-21-2005, 10:13 AM
I was reading
the book Change (by Watzlawick, Weakland & Fisch) & came across a
story describing how Watzlawick helped a student who had been
unable to complete his thesis due to anxiety. He told the student
"Go into three shops over the next week & make an absurd request."
The student did so, reported a shift in attitude, & finished their
thesis shortly thereafter. I loved the idea, & thought it might be
useful with the reluctant telesales team, but I knew that I
couldnąt ask them to do something I wasnąt willing to do myself. I
said to myself "You have to do this", & as soon as I got off the
tube, I went into a well-known fast-food hamburger joint outside
the station. I joined the queue, looking around at the other
customers. My heart was pounding like a drum; even though I knew
rationally that I was in no danger, my neurology was responding as
though I were about to stick up a bank.
When I got to the counter, I looked at the person behind it &, with
a straight face, asked for a ham & pineapple pizza. She looked
confused and said "What?" I repeated my request. She said "We donąt
sell those." "This is a Chinese restaurant isn't it?" I replied.
She said no, I said thanks anyway and left. I felt like I had just
knocked out Mike Tyson. I felt invincible!
Please, before you send me loads of email saying how childish this
is, & how it isnąt really NLP - I know. But the result was amazing.
In the days following, I did several similar acts. Each time, my
physical response was diminished, but in other areas of my life,
the opposite happened. I started to exhibit less hesitation and
more wanton ego for it than ever before!
Thrilled with my success, I invited the telesales people to do
similar absurd acts, and they reported similar liberating results.
I knew I was onto something.
The Pizza-walk Experience
A few years ago, I became interested in Tony Robbins & went to one
of his weekends, eagerly anticipating the fire-walking, which I had
heard so much about. I was really looking forward to it, and
Robbins did a great job of building up the anticipation, but when
the time came, I found it impossible to actually believe that
walking on the hot coals was in any way dangerous. As a result,
walking across them didn't have much impact on me as a metaphor for
overcoming fears in other areas of my life (though I know it really
works for some people.)
By comparison, The Pizza-walk Experience costs nothing, can be done
virtually anywhere, and is incredibly powerful. So

1) Identify a few of the areas in your life where you hesitate and
would like to just go for it.
2) Choose a commercial premises (eg. shop, restaurant, petrol
station) and make an absurd request (ie. ask for something they
definitely don't sell) while keeping a straight face. Be polite,
safe and non-threatening.
3) Repeat twice more in the course of a week.
4) Look forward to the situations where in the past you would have
hesitated, and enjoy your new responses.
One of my clients used to have difficulties asking women out on
dates. I sent him out to a burger joint to get some Italian food.
Within the week he had a date and today has a full diary [2005
update he's moved to Australia & is engaged to be married!]. This
stuff works!

For those of you who are worried about the person behind the
counter, in all the times I've done this, their response has been
anywhere from bemused to very amused, but not frightened. The key
is for you to be non-threatening and polite (ideally coming across
as a bit confused). For those of you who are thinking this is
pointless, foolish or humiliating you probably need this more than
most.
Why does this work?
Our central nervous system is set up to protect us from dangerous
situations. Many of us have been heavily conditioned against making
mistakes (by teachers, parents, peers etc.) and code mistakes as
dangerous. Yet making mistakes is an incredibly important part of
learning, growing and exploring. A willingness to make mistakes is
an absolute must for anyone who wishes to become skilled at NLP
(with me, I used to be almost phobic of making mistakes, but no
more). The Pizza-walk Experience seems to help you eliminate this
unhelpful response. There are lots of other NLP techniques which
can reduce hesitation & increase "go for it", but this one's the
easiest & quickest to communicate in writing. By the way, obviously
there are times when it's useful to hesitate (eg. when about to
step into a busy street). Keep those.

Mentalius
10-21-2005, 10:19 AM
This is absolutely ridiculous, and has nothing to with NLP whatsover. And what is even worse!? - I´ll let u know how it worked out a week from now.

Terry (existing)
10-21-2005, 10:57 AM
Sounds like harmless fun, and I intend to accept it a a valid excercise so that I can try it with the proper care and attention (EG)...... Hell, come to think about it, I know someone who could really use it.....

Merlin
10-21-2005, 06:39 PM
I like going to a FF restraunt and ordering
- hamburger
- cheeseberger
- French fries
- chocolate shake, hold the ice!

Works wonders :)

Pdrive
10-21-2005, 09:48 PM
Ive been doing this for years already... :D

Merlin, for a real rush, try ordering that at a $200-per-meal resteraunt ;)

rishi
10-22-2005, 08:50 AM
The first post in this thread seems to be from a website by Jamie Smart.


This Pizza Walk technique is taught by him...

This is his website http://www.saladltd.co.uk/

and the Pizza walk tip , click here - Pizza Walk (http://www.saladltd.co.uk/nlp_tip_97.htm)


There are lot of interesting articles in his archives section.


[Moderator's Note: the items for sale on that website are not supported or dismissed by this forum or its owners. If you choose to buy any of the items advertised on that site, we are not responsible.]

Brian Carr
10-22-2005, 09:23 AM
I like going to a FF restraunt and ordering
- hamburger
- cheeseberger
- French fries
- chocolate shake, hold the ice!

Works wonders :) Don't tell me there's even a McDonald's on Avalon Island??! :eek:

Globalization--gotta love it even when you hate it! :p:D

skip
10-22-2005, 09:36 AM
Ah the benifits of cross contextualizing.

I often take clients to the mall, where they do 'ordeals'.

skip

Merlin
10-22-2005, 11:17 AM
>Ive been doing this for years...

Kewl!
Fun, isn't it.
I started this (specific 'script') back in the 1960s
Similar things even longer ago.


>Merlin, for a real rush, try ordering that at a $200-per-meal resteraunt

Done similar.
Never tried ordering a hamburger and fries at a "$200-per-meal resteraunt ".
Mostly because I'm more interested in the meal than mind games at such restraunts.

Did go to such a place in muddy jeans before :)
It took a bit of verbal gymnastics to get waited on <LOL>

Merlin
10-22-2005, 11:27 AM
I'm not a prisoner of Avalon.
I've even visited the USA on occasion.

solaris152000
10-22-2005, 03:09 PM
IS avalon island 'owned' by the USA?

That thing sounds fun, Im goint to try it!

Brian Carr
10-22-2005, 03:38 PM
IS avalon island 'owned' by the USA? Dear me, no! If it was, she'd have her pick of fast food chains. Thankfully, Avalon is a sanctified domain. :)

parsa
10-22-2005, 04:19 PM
I thought Avalon (camelot) was some where in England.

Youaregettingsleepy
10-22-2005, 10:08 PM
I might be missing your responses, but do you guys think this technique has any merit?

nUnregistered
10-24-2005, 05:18 PM
"I loved the idea, & thought it might be
useful with the reluctant telesales team, but I knew that I
couldnąt ask them to do something I wasnąt willing to do myself"

I've performed B2B telemarketing for the last 15+ years while studying then practicing NLP in the sales context for about the same period.without a doubt getting telemarketers into state is where most of the challenge is. for me,it was knowing how to get rapport and what to say(rebutting the prospect)that successfully helped me with state. how that may or may not be what makes your team "reluctant"(some or part of the time)but do you know for sure it isn't?

Jim R

betlamed
10-25-2005, 03:53 AM
I just tried it.

I wouldn't have guessed that a clerk in a sweet shop (absolutely nooo pun intended *g) would hand me over her pen with a smile.

The feeling is... well, go ahead and do it yourself, man!

bl

prfeiger
10-29-2005, 07:09 PM
This suggestion is absolutely fantastic! I can see the application with several of my clients. I used a very modest type of this when helping a client overcome excessive shyness. Had her say HI to total strangers and write in her journal her emotions.
After two weeks, she tells me that she looks forward to saying HI and has even initiated conversations. So this new approach should really work; I'll be trying it out starting tomorrow. BTW, NLP is modeling successful acts, processes, etc. to achieve a specific behavioral goal. Your process, seems to me, fits that definition to the tee.

Paul

Unregistered User duhhh
12-28-2005, 01:42 PM
It might not be nlp.. I dont really know because I have no idea << stating the obvious...

But back to the point, yes I think it works .. why ? because you are expanding your map of reality through experience... experiencing a situation where you are not being shy and feeling good..... Afterwards this becomes part of your reality map, meaning your mind knows that it is within your possibilities to act beyond your shyness....... etcetcetc..blabkalblalblalba..
;)