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brjbrisson
10-05-2005, 08:11 AM
Where can I find information re. the accessing and drawing out of information which lies in higher memory through hypnotic work? An example of what I mean by this could be the reaching of such info as Edgar Cayce was able to regularly reach through hypnotic trance states. N D Walsch in Communion With God says ĻAll learning is remembering. All teaching is reminding. All lessons are memories, recaptured. Ļ Am I on the right forum?
Terry (existing)
10-05-2005, 10:50 AM
Where can I find information re. the accessing and drawing out of information which lies in higher memory through hypnotic work? An example of what I mean by this could be the reaching of such info as Edgar Cayce was able to regularly reach through hypnotic trance states. N D Walsch in Communion With God says ĻAll learning is remembering. All teaching is reminding. All lessons are memories, recaptured. Ļ Am I on the right forum? I may be reading you incorrectly, but it seems as if you are asking how to become another Edgar Cayce, is that correct? If so, I suspect you are indeed on the wrong board. Perhaps you would like to expand on exactly what it is you hope for?
brjbrisson
10-06-2005, 09:08 AM
Thank you. Well I guess my point is that hypnosis is an obvious method to aquire the trance state that people such as Cayce, Jane Roberts, Esther Hicks, used or use to attain to information which in their normal waking states is not available. I do understand that a certain part of their frameworks had to be acceptable to the individual and fits the individualīs belief system. The information however that they access is objective information, not subjective. Are you still with me? If not it IS just as well to stop here.
Terry (existing)
10-06-2005, 09:16 AM
Thank you. Well I guess my point is that hypnosis is an obvious method to aquire the trance state that people such as Cayce, Jane Roberts, Esther Hicks, used or use to attain to information which in their normal waking states is not available. I do understand that a certain part of their frameworks had to be acceptable to the individual and fits the individualīs belief system. The information however that they access is objective information, not subjective. Are you still with me? If not it IS just as well to stop here. You seem for some reason to be going round the question, instead of answering it, but in my opinion, Cacye was a savant, and I have no idea if you are or are not. You would need to visit a practitioner willing to test you.....
Dear brjbrisson,
You are correct in that Edgar Cayce and others were able to tap into some sort of information stream not available to the rest of us via trance.
You are correct that hypnosis produces trance states.
I have my doubts that hypnosis produces the trance states that Cayce and or others accessed. If it did then wouldnt we have many examples of this, given the millions who have been hypnotized, at one time or another?
I dont know that it wont, and I would certainly encourage you to try. But I think it is a mistake to assume, one trance state, is like all other trance states.
I wish you well,
skip
Merlin
10-06-2005, 07:16 PM
If you seek anything like what 'Edgar Cayce was able to regularly reach' hypnosis and hypnotic trance are not the answer.
While he did go into a 'sleep like' state, it wasn't hypnosis.
Hello BRJ,
The perceived wisdom in hypnotherapy is that information gleaned during trance is remembered from the individual's own existence. On the fringes of this perception is a half belief in past lives and the ability of a current persona to visit past personas.
Yet others believe that there is a universal stream of consciousness in which we are all tossed, willy-nilly. Whatever appearance of reality we believe in, an altered state of awareness would seem to be the logical way to proceed if one wished to access either past lives, 'higher states' or get our bearings in the universe.
Hypnosis, meditation, religion, sensory deprivation, hallucinogenic drugs and insanity are all ways to access altered states of awareness. No one knows which of these ways, or which combination of these ways Cayce, Roberts or Hicks used to access what they believed was objective information previously consciously unknown to them.
You could do worse than using hypnotic phenomena as your starting point.
Jack