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rpglover64
09-16-2005, 09:53 PM
Simply put, I want to ask if anyone can be completely hypnotized; more specifically, I am interested in myself. I have found that even in my best hypnotic sessions, the only effects which were successful on me were simple catelepsies (arm, eyes, etc.), and I am wondering if it is merely me. I do have trust issues, but usually, I trust the person hypnotizing me. Also, I am quite interested in observing, or rather experiencing, hypnotic amnesia.

For anyone who is wondering what I'll do with this information, the answer is: Probably nothing. Most likely, based on other threads with similar topics, you'll tell me some reasons why you can't help me. If you do help me, I only wish to produce amnesia because it would be a new experience; I feel that having many different experiences is a crucial part of life.

I'll hate to refer to it as somnambulism, but for lack of a better term, I have never achieved it in myself. If any tips for what my mental outlook should be can be given, they would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all.

Robert H
09-16-2005, 11:55 PM
Have you ever forgotten anything?


That is hypnotic amnesia.

Jack
09-17-2005, 01:13 AM
Hello rpglover,

Do you mean amnesia about the session - that is you don't remember even going into trance or anything that transpired thereafter, or amnesia about some specific subject?

Jack

rpglover64
09-17-2005, 07:08 AM
I meant about the session, but if that doesn't work, how can amnesia about a specific subject work? But shouldn't it be second nature to induce one a subject is totally hypnotized? (in somnambulism... etc.)

Terry (existing)
09-17-2005, 09:31 AM
Well friend, with all the good intentions and honesty in the world, what you say to us, and what is probably true differ. Not that you intend to prevaricate, but your beliefs and what you post seem to be different. You say you have trust problems, but do indeed trust those who attempt to hypnotise you. I suspect the later is incorrect and lack of trust is indeed part of your problem. Not that this is provable from here, but suspicion exists for me at least, and I suspect others will support this notion. Now you speak of complete hypnosis as if it were a tool for display, and not a condition which varies from person to person, and day to day in each person. Some may never obtain the state of somnambulism, and most won't care anyway, but for someone who insists that this is what they wish to achieve, it depends on the practitioner to a large extent, and to the client to lesser degree, and we can't change any of that... A skilled practitioner will help you to relax and develop trust by how they treat you, and what they prepare you for, so I suspect you may not have been exposed to one of the best. On the other hand, relating to an individual is not always a one way street, and you may find you never develop raport to the extent that you can completely trust another person to take temporary charge of you programming, in spite of the fact that on a daily basis, many do just that without your knowledge or consent. You are correct when you say that we will tell you we can be of no help at a distance, since this is a fact of life we are unable to change.

rpglover64
09-17-2005, 01:19 PM
You say you have trust problems, but do indeed trust those who attempt to hypnotise you. I suspect the later is incorrect and lack of trust is indeed part of your problem.

I did not say that I completely trusted them, but I do trust them more than I trust most everyone else.

...but for someone who insists that this [the state of somnamubulism] is what they wish to achieve, it depends on the practitioner to a large extent, and to the client to lesser degree...

This is partially what I wished to know; how much it actually depends on the client. Also, what should I as the client think (or try to) to succeed? (Yes, I know that one of the things should be that it will work, but what about others?)

Terry (existing)
09-17-2005, 02:50 PM
I am not sure what you know, and how true is what you think you know, so I am at a disadvantage. From what you write, I suspect you have at least some misunderstanding of hypnosis, and this should have been explained to you during a pre interview with the practitioner. What you should do is simple enough, just relax and let the other guy do his job, after all, you paid for the service and the skill... As for trust, if you don't expect to be successful, you put yourself at a disadvantage, though a good practitioner is likely to overcome the problem and succeed. The sad thing is, all too often the practitioner is poorly trained, and fails to inform the client of what to expect, so the client isn't even certain if they were hypnotised or not. Point is, how can we help, when you are face to face with a practitioner you have paid, and don't ask questions which you seem to feel we should answer who weren't present and don't know how good or bad the session was? My advice, get what you paid for, and expect to get answers from the person who has your money. We preffer not to second guess another practitioner who knows more about the session than we do......

Neurotic1
09-17-2005, 03:44 PM
Hi
Also, what should I as the client think (or try to) to succeed? (Yes, I know that one of the things should be that it will work, but what about others?)
Don't bother to think about it. Try to forget your name and that will give you an idea of how much effort you need to put in to forget what happened during hypnosis. Forgetting will come naturally when you let go and just allow yourself to go with it. It really doesn't matter what you think about during your hypnosis sessions - you can choose to let thoughts come and go as they please if you wish. Spontaneous hypnotic amnesia can be influenced by several factors, one of which is trance depth. You really don't need to make any special mental effort to go into a deep trance; the more you learn to let go and enjoy the experience, the deeper into trance you will go. At some point you will experience the wonderful experience of waking from trance and not recalling much if anything but being soooo relaxed. If you want amnesia for another reason, suggestions can be given whilst you are hypnotised to induce it but it will happen sooner or later anyway....