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Ruskie

09-07-2005, 08:37 AM

I have a friend, good hypnotist, nlp trainer. He is a good hypnotist when people pay him.
And he has nothing wrong about using all of the hypnosis power for bad. He causes cancer, AIDS and other horrible things to people who he doesnt like. People like other hypnotherapists, his enemies. He doesnt take time to understand. He only belives - this is the way i want it.

What do you think about such people ?

Don

09-07-2005, 12:58 PM

If such a person exists, he's full of garbage. Hypnosis does not cause cancer or AIDS. If you believe him, you are being foolish.

Ruskie

09-07-2005, 03:48 PM

If such a person exists, he's full of garbage. Hypnosis does not cause cancer or AIDS. If you believe him, you are being foolish.

No no. Sorry didnt mean that hypnosis causes such things. I mean he does hypnotic sujestions, and people in a little time get the things he wants them to ged. Symptoms are like from aids if he wants it to be aids. And aids test show aids. Its just, he did it to few people i know. They did got what he sujested. One person had a throat cancer. Another AIDS and anohter something i dont know a name in english. Russian name for it - Enures. or something. its when you can't keep your urine inside.

Plus I, myself Ericksonian Hypnotherapist and NLP master, so i know a fair bit about these things as well.
Hypnosis, NLP are tools that can be used for good and for bad, he uses it for bad sometimes, obviusly.

And then i come in handy, ive helped them to get back to normal, using hypnosis, and it worked.

Other thing - he asks them for money if they want to get back to normal sort of thing, or asks for something in return - normally what they owe him. Money usually.

Dizzy

09-08-2005, 10:08 AM

If true, this is disgusting. Also illegal, although hard to prove. Try getting him to stop, talk to him as a friend, and explain how it is morally unethical.

Terry (existing)

09-08-2005, 11:56 AM

HypnoSonic

09-08-2005, 11:57 AM

Ruskie, I don't believe you are foolish. The power of the mind is incredible. ;)

Charlie

09-08-2005, 12:02 PM

....Let's kick this fake ruskies ass, or should I call him dr/nurse? I Wonder? Could he be back, the dreaded dr/nurse, scourge of this board for so many years (G).....

I remember DrNurse, what a strange character that was!

:eek:

skip

09-08-2005, 12:23 PM

Ah the good ole days.

Jack

09-09-2005, 02:19 AM

Terry,

Spot on.

Jack

Ruskie

09-10-2005, 12:58 PM

Come on guys, read the damn posts with care, can't you spot them? You will note that it is very difficult to fake being someone who's English is imperfect due to it being a second language. They constantly slip and use coloquialisms that only come from those who live and breath the language.... Now me, I am used to communicating with persons from Yorkshire, Lancashire, Scotland, including the Outer Hebrides, and of course ****neys bless em..... It makes you very good at language as a whole. I leave you with this thought, English is a living breathing language, spoken badly by many, well by a few, but constantly changing in both the spoken form and the written one, but is the most difficult to fake....

Sorry guys, belive it or whatever, the way to check if im from Russia or not, is to check upon my IP address, im sure it should be saved somwhere in forum :-) that would clear up everything. English is my second language, and it is something i havent spoken for years, though have to say - i spoke it 5 years solid, while i was at college in UK.
And - what would be my motive to lie anyway ? someone open minded, would just accept what ive said, as truth, coz there is no way to say it is wrong, but your own mind map. As someone very clever once said - decived we are all the time.

Tried talking to that guy, he is immoral. Morals dont work for him. And i have to say, i dont like it and i want it to be stopped. Really interested in finding out how to stop him. How can i proove that he does such horrible things?

HypnoSonic

09-10-2005, 01:24 PM

Sorry guys, belive it or whatever, the way to check if im from Russia or not, is to check upon my IP address, im sure it should be saved somwhere in forum :-) that would clear up everything.Your IP address is stored in the database. Additionally, "Moderator" permissions typically allow for IP addresses to be viewed in posts or in the AdminCP. To check IP Location simply visit www.whois.sc (http://www.whois.sc) and type in the IP address. From start to finish this will take under one minute. Considering the allegations made it would only seem right for this to be checked for authenticity.

Ruskie

09-10-2005, 02:59 PM

Your IP address is stored in the database. Additionally, "Moderator" permissions typically allow for IP addresses to be viewed in posts or in the AdminCP. To check IP Location simply visit www.whois.sc (http://www.whois.sc) and type in the IP address. From start to finish this will take under one minute. Considering the allegations made it would only seem right for this to be checked for authenticity.

My allowans is given :) i agree for my ip adress to be posted! :)

HypnoSonic

09-11-2005, 08:34 AM

My allowans is given :) i agree for my ip adress to be posted! :)If anyone needs help with this let me know. I can walk you through the software.

skip

09-11-2005, 09:24 AM

OK guys,

Couldnt make sense of the whois software, so no help from there.

However the last part of the domain is a .ru, which in my feeble mind would mean that the domain is Russian, just as a .uk, would indicate United Kingdom.

But to my mind that is somewhat irrelevent.

You either find his story credible or you dont.

If you do, respond accordingly.

If you dont, respond accordingly, or seek more information that might satisfy your particular convincer strategy.

Or dont respond at all, if you arent interested enough to respond.

skip

HypnoSonic

09-11-2005, 09:34 AM

skip

09-11-2005, 09:54 AM

In your mind hypnosonic, not in mine.

See I could, if I wanted, subscribe to a domain in Russia, and leave the impression that I am from there.

Now I dont think this is what ruskie has done, if he had, it would be a very elaborate scheme to go thru, to accomplish very little.

But it could be done.

I recognize that establishing that ruskie is from Russia as claimed, increases credibility from your standpoint.

From my standpoint it doesnt matter where he is from, or how his internet traffic is routed.

I read what he says, I ask myself what would have to be true, for what he says to be true, and I compare that with my credibility scale. Place of origion, skilled or not use of language, are incidental to me, in this case.

You think ruskie is credible.

I am honestly confused at why you are spending more time trying to convince others that ruskie is credible, than you are trying to help ruskie with his request.

It would appear from here, that you have become so fixated at swatting the gnats, you have frogotten that your purpose was to drain the swamp. I will gently suggest that waging a crusade about what Terry said or didnt say, doesnt help ruskie one whit.

Have you lost your purpose in this, or have you just recently found it?

skip

HypnoSonic

09-11-2005, 10:17 AM

Skip, I for one don't consider post #5, among other recent posts on the forum, to be "respectful" as I have pointed out here and in another thread: http://forum.hypnosis.com/showthread.php?t=1951.

If a forum moderator won't address the issue who will? May I gently suggest that you reevaluate your role as forum moderator.

Merlin

09-11-2005, 11:26 AM

>If a forum moderator won't address the issue who will? May I gently suggest that you reevaluate your role as forum moderator.

Perhaps, Hypnsonic, if the posts are so distasteful *to you*,
You might consider either avoiding those who write such posts, or find another forum more to your liking.

There are many posts here which may be taken as disrespectful or otherwise objectionable by someone.
If all such posts were purged, we might as well shut down this forum so as not to offend anyone.

HypnoSonic

09-11-2005, 12:18 PM

Perhaps, Hypnsonic, if the posts are so distasteful *to you*,
You might consider either avoiding those who write such posts, or find another forum more to your liking.So you too Merlin do not consider a post such as:....Let's kick this fake ruskies ass, or should I call him dr/nurse? I Wonder? Could he be back, the dreaded dr/nurse, scourge of this board for so many years (G).....as disrespectful?

There are many posts here which may be taken as disrespectful or otherwise objectionable by someone.
If all such posts were purged, we might as well shut down this forum so as not to offend anyone.What prompted you to make the decision that I wanted posts purged? Did you read that somewhere or did you make it up for yourself?

Don

09-11-2005, 01:44 PM

Hi, Hypnosonic.

You are correct. Some posts are disrespectful. To clairify, the moderators do not automatically eliminate such posts. For example, "I don't think you know what you're talking about," or even "you need to study some more" could be construed as being disrespectful. To completely eliminate any such posts would result in a very bland and boring forum.

We do, however, delete outright insults. Saying a person doesn't know what they're talking about isn't the same as calling them a name.

Unfortunately, this becomes a fine line that the moderators have to follow. For example, repeating a claim that a poster doesn't know what he/she is talking about several times without giving any information to support such claims could certainly be construed as an insult. The moderators have to look at the post that resulted in the response and determine if they think the response is accurate or a personal attack guised as criticism. Sometimes, the moderators make a mistake. I would contend that most times, we are accurate.

I hope this clarifies what the moderators are trying to do. We're not trying to eliminate controversy, or extreme disagreement. We try to eliminate personal insults, posts from trolls, spam, advertisements, or posts quite outside the purpose of our board.

Merlin

09-11-2005, 01:51 PM

>So you too Merlin do not consider a post such as: XXXX
as disrespectful?

I said no such thing.
I said:
Perhaps, Hypnsonic, if the posts are so distasteful *to you*,
You might consider either avoiding those who write such posts

You see, I already know how to either not let the posts of others bother me or how to avoid such posts if they do.
I was suggesting helpful options for you.
IMO, the better choice for you would be to learn to be more tolerant. But that's asking an awful lot, isn't it?

>What prompted you to make the decision that I wanted posts purged? Did you read that somewhere or did you make it up for yourself?
>>If a forum moderator won't address the issue who will? May I gently suggest that you reevaluate your role as forum moderator.

>>>There are many posts here which may be taken as disrespectful or otherwise objectionable by someone.
If all such posts were purged...

I didn't say you wanted them purged.
I didn't even say you wanted them moderated.
I made a comment about the possibility of purging disrespectful posts.

HypnoSonic

09-11-2005, 06:14 PM

IMO, the better choice for you would be to learn to be more tolerant. But that's asking an awful lot, isn't it?:D :D :D .........

skip

09-11-2005, 08:03 PM

I would have to say that the forum moderator did address the issue.

You just dont seem to have noticed.

I am guessing that is because the forum moderator didnt address the issue as you demand it be addressed.

skip

HypnoSonic

09-11-2005, 08:08 PM

I am guessing that is because the forum moderator didnt address the issue as you demand it be addressed.Hey Skip relax, release, let go. :D

Terry (existing)

09-11-2005, 09:12 PM

I believe that before I put the complainant on my "ignore" list, I did suggest that he might do just that to me, since he found my posts offensive. I quite frankly would be quite happy if he followed my advice, since it is unlikely that I will at any time contribute to his knowledge...... Perhaps if he continues I should lodge a complaint of harrasment and demand his removal from the board (EG)..... My condolences to the moderators who don't have the luxury of shutting off silly posts, but feel obligated to reply to them...

HypnoSonic

09-11-2005, 11:01 PM

I believe that before I put the complainant on my "ignore" list, I did suggest that he might do just that to me, since he found my posts offensive.:D You can relax now. :D

fussyhypno

09-12-2005, 02:45 AM

i dont get this thread, you cant cause aids or cancer through hypnosis? You could make them believe they had it, but not actually have it?

thanks, daz

Ruskie

09-12-2005, 06:09 AM

i dont get this thread, you cant cause aids or cancer through hypnosis? You could make them believe they had it, but not actually have it?

thanks, daz

Hi Daz,
Some people went to be diagnosed to have cancer or not, and the diagnos was positive. They actually had all the symptoms of it. Dont know wether it is something a mind can do but im pretty sure - that these things are possible. Our Hypnosis trainer said - hypnosis is a tool that can be used to do good and to do bad as well.
And as someone on forum said that you can get rid of all the symptoms with hypnosis - would you clarify that as being healed from a disease. then - wouldnt you say that hypnosis can cause symptoms to appear, get stronger, bigger, look real?

fussyhypno

09-12-2005, 06:43 AM

uh huh *nods head in agreement* look real, not be real. I dont think hypnosis can cause physical disabilities that we have no control over, thats like saying that hypnosis can give you a broken arm. It can, by you telling people not to see the edge of the stage, and then they fall, and break their arm. Maybe he done something similar? Maybe got them to do something that caused the cancer?

I dunno, daz

P.S. Your doing alot of posting, why not sign up as a member? It is free ;-)

Dizzy

09-12-2005, 11:29 AM

You can cause negative effects with hypnosis. If you can cure something with hypnosis, then usually the trigger can be used the other way, to cause negative effects. However the mind has numerous safeguards against such, and it is very difficult to do so. For the same reason negative halucinations are more difficult. I would doubt that someone could cause such powerful effects covertly with such a perfect success record that Ruskie's words seem to indicate.