Try to make myself feel drunk

[Daniel]

No i've tried to make myself feel drunk with hypnosis two times, but it just don't seem to work. I make myself go into trance with sound file i've recordet. I then tell myself to imagine that i sit at a bar and drink 8 beers, and become more and more drunk. I then attach this feeling to a keyword. And when the trance is finished it doesn't seems like that my key word helps at all.

What do i do wrong?

Beside, i do this, to test how good i am at hypnosis. Already got more confident. But havent tried posthypnotic triggers yet.

Daniel

[Daniel]

I more feel tired, than drunk right now. After using these keywords.
How can that be?

[Don]

How many times have you been to a bar and drunk eight beers?

[Daniel]

Well... i never have. But i also tried with a beach... but haven't been drinking on a beach neither. I've been drinking at private parties, the most. But i have bougth a beer or to at a bar once in a while though.

[Don]

Daniel, what you did was set up a model for which you had nothing to compare. The best you can get from that is what you think it might be like to go into a bar and have 8 beers. You're like a bad performer at a stage hypnosis show. If I were doing the show I'd ask you to sit down because you couldn't do the stunt well.

If you want to succeed, doing create an image that doesn't relate to you. Imagine that time you really did get drunk and puked your guts out. That's what you'll be able to relive.

[Daniel]

Thanks. Alot, ill try to do so next time then.

[Merlin]

>What do i do wrong?

You are not getting hypnosis.

[Merlin]

>How can that be?

Your methods are not getting hypnosis for you.
Hypnosis is more than just listening to a recording.

There are many kinds of trances, hypnosis is only one kind.
Hypnosis can be elusive to the beginner.

[Daniel]

>What do i do wrong?

You are not getting hypnosis.

What do you mean Merlin? Why dont you think i'm getting hypnosis.

[Merlin]

>"And when the trance is finished it doesn't seems like that my key word helps at all."

[Daniel]

Ok then tell me what i can do better. Please. I admit im new. I've read a single book about hypnosis (By William J. Ousby) And thats all. But if it wasn't a hypnotic trance i experinced? How can it be i became more confident then?

[Simple Guy]

Though we've had various incarnations of this question over the years, I
don't think anyone has twisted the theme to ask how to feel and respond
more soberly, if needed or desired, using hypnosis (after consuming alcohol).
Because misuse of any information in pursuit of deepening or lessening
a drunken state could lead to injury or worse, I'll abstain from providing
any. Speaking of abstention, tomorrow is the U.S.A.'s Labor Day holiday.
Anyone that will be driving, please do abstain from drinking. Be safe,
everyone.

[Daniel]

Though we've had various incarnations of this question over the years, I
don't think anyone has twisted the theme to ask how to feel and respond
more soberly, if needed or desired, using hypnosis (after consuming alcohol).
Because misuse of any information in pursuit of deepening or lessening
a drunken state could lead to injury or worse, I'll abstain from providing
any. Speaking of abstention, tomorrow is the U.S.A.'s Labor Day holiday.
Anyone that will be driving, please do abstain from drinking. Be safe,
everyone.

How could you possibly hurt yourself by deepening a drunken state with hypnosis? I dont see what your reply has to do with my question?????

[Simple Guy]

Daniel,

When impaired, there is an increased risk of unwanted paternity, STD's,
blackeyes, lost driving privileges (and limbs and lives) and just plain old
stupid, regrettable behavior with lasting negative consequences.

[Daniel]

Im sorry Simple Guy, I dont get you at all. I dont see what driving has to do with hypnosis. And by the way, I don't have a driver license, and I don't live in America (live in denmark). I've tried to look the words up in the dictionary, but that doesn't make more sense to me. Please explain yourself more clearly, eventually by using less advanced words.

And I dont understand your abbreviations neither. I don't have a clue, what STD might mean. So please explain.

[Robert H]

STD = Sexually Transmitted Disease

[Simple Guy]

Hi Daniel,

If someone were to feel drunk with hypnosis (the subject of your original
question), it would not matter that there may be no alcohol in his or
her body because the thinking and behavior would be the same.
So, the dangers of feeling drunk would be the same whether from alcohol or
hypnosis.

People who are drunk have more accidents and get into more trouble,
even when they are not driving cars. STDs are sexually transmitted
diseases, illnesses that people can get from sex (syphilis, AIDS,
herpes and others). Paternity has to do with being a father. Blackeyes
are injuries to the area around the eyes that can be caused by fighting.

If people were to use hypnosis to feel drunk and become dangerous to
themselves or others, it would not be a good thing.

If I can explain better, just ask.

[Robert H]

There is an NLP pattern called "Drug of choice" for this sort of thing.

You can even custom design states.

For instance, in response to simple_guy's very valid concern - you could design a state of "drunken sobriety" or "drunken wisdom" or some such.

I won't go into detail about the drug of choice pattern as it's very well written up in the book "change your mind, and keep the change" by Steve and Connirae Andreas...as well as in other books.

The way to use this pattern for designing a state such as the one I mentioned is to take each state...determine the aspects or pieces of each, then "weave them together" so you have a chain of sensations that alternates back and forth between each state. keep the overall sequence of sensations from each state the same. Just intermix them.

First sensation #1 from drunken state then sensation #1 from good decision state then sensation #2 from drunken state...then sensation #2 from good decision state. ...and so forth

This will make more sense after you read up on this pattern.

Furthermore....this is a "genius state" you are creating....by genius state I mean a state of focused attention....part of the design consideration for a genius state is what class of events will cause you exit from the state. The kind of examples of activities that Simple Guy brings up are perfect things that you should build in as things that will "kick you out" of the hypnotic drunk state

You can read up on this in the book Turtles all the way down, by John Grinder. Also, a brief summary of some of the points in this book that are pertenant to creatig this kind of state is avaible on Michael hall's site.

IF you incorporate these two points into your "designer hypnotic drunk" it will I believe address the concerns that Simple Guy mentions.

If I'm not accurate on that Simple Guy - please keep me honest.

Robert

[Daniel]

Simple Guy. I think I understand it now. But I don't understand, why you would expect me to act foolish when drunk? In general, you expect, that I don't drink at all? Because it might hurt me or other persons.

[Simple Guy]

Daniel,

When drunk, people often act foolishly.

[a Puppy Kicker]

alright daniel, my danish buddy! you know there is a very simple way to get that feeling... its called Alcohol. Carry a flask, and whenever you want to say the key word.. just DRINK ALOT of the fluid in your flask :D !

[a Puppy Kicker]

adventualy you will look like :eek: and feel like :cool:.. the next day your going to be like :confused: .. and then finaly your mom will be like :mad:. yup have a good time buddy!

[AnthonyM83]

If someone's going to become drunk anyway, I'd prefer it'd be by hypnosis than alcohol, because I would think it'd be more controllable.

If I were to instantly become drunk right now as part of a hypnosis experiment, I wouldn't suddenly be driving, having unprotected sex, or getting into fights. Those aren't things I would normally do even if I was extremely drunk at a party. Here in my room, I'd probably walk around a bit, do a few sobriety tests, write out the alphabet, record myself speaking, then probably end the trance or go to bed.

It wouldn't suddenly lose the memory that I'm doing an experiment and decide to go walk in traffic. This based on past experiences drinking.

[Robert H]

Daniel,

Did you try the instructions I posted for the Drug of Choice Pattern?
How did that go for you? IMHO that is the fastest, easiest way to get drunk or high hypnotically.

Robert

[Daniel]

Daniel,

Did you try the instructions I posted for the Drug of Choice Pattern?
How did that go for you? IMHO that is the fastest, easiest way to get drunk or high hypnotically.

Robert

Well i Made this thread before the drug of choice. But i haven't got time to test it. Do you have to be skilled to be able to do the "Drug of choice procedure" ?

[skip]

Daniel,

I gotta ask ...

Why drunk?

I mean if it was me, orgasm, that adrenelin rush after just having just been shot at and missed, holding your child in your arms, commiting yourself to someone, that first day at a new job, having just had an enlightened thought ...

Why not things like that instead of drunk?

Is drunk the best experience you have ever had?

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[Daniel]

What i feel, really doesn't matter. I just want to prove to myself i can. Well i've never tried any of those things you metion either (except orgasm). Perhaps ill try those things, if i can make those other things work.



Daniel,

I gotta ask ...

Why drunk?

I mean if it was me, orgasm, that adrenelin rush after just having just been shot at and missed, holding your child in your arms, commiting yourself to someone, that first day at a new job, having just had an enlightened thought ...

Why not things like that instead of drunk?

Is drunk the best experience you have ever had?

skip

[Terry (existing)]

Well i Made this thread before the drug of choice. But i haven't got time to test it. Do you have to be skilled to be able to do the "Drug of choice procedure" ? Oh dear, so you have no time to try what is suggested, and have no skills anyway, so anything we offer is a pure waste of time, thanks muchly........

[Daniel]

Oh dear, so you have no time to try what is suggested, and have no skills anyway, so anything we offer is a pure waste of time, thanks muchly........

Of course not. Im reading some NLP books at the moment. And I just have to pass my driving exam, and Ill try it. So its not waste of time, at all.