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Natalie Dee
08-31-2005, 04:28 AM
Hello,
A client of mine has international offices and has enquired about how NLP would differ across various cultures.
I would be interested in any ideas or tips about this.
If you train NLP across cultures I would also like to talk with you, feel free to contact me via my website: www.natalie-dee.com (http://www.natalie-dee.com/) or call me on 0870 041 2101.

Many thanks,
Natalie Dee

Charlie
08-31-2005, 05:02 AM
my website:www.natalie-dee.com (http://www.natalie-dee.com/)

Nice web-site, that.

:)

Simple Guy
08-31-2005, 08:26 AM
Natalie's question prompts me to request that people with experience using
timelines with those that are native asian language or hebrew readers
post here as to whether elicited timelines tend to parallel
the written formats of their respective languages.

Merlin
08-31-2005, 07:09 PM
NLP may sometimes work cross-culturally.
Since the primary mode of NLP is linguistics, it depends on the practicioner's understanding of the language.

Merlin
08-31-2005, 07:40 PM
Simple,

I have not found a direct corrolation between timeline direction and written language direction.

Of course, why would it matter since each individual's timeline needs to be elicited separately.

Some timelines are flat planes, some are helical winding all about, some are location-based as though rooms in an apartment, some based on geographic locations, and so on.

skip
08-31-2005, 07:49 PM
That depemds Natalie,

For example, anchoring, will work with out knowing the language. Using rapport techniques will as well.

In order for most people, to use most patterns, would as Merlin believes, require the use of language.

But that isnt true for everyone.

You can non verbally interrupt patterns, and install new ones using NLP, and these can be accomplished 'cross culturally' completely without the use of verbal language.

I have also used NLP, with the help of an interpreter, to assist me elicit specific states, but once I had those states calibrated, and anchored, did not need to use verbal language to accomplish the desired change.

Many, many, things can be accomplished, non verbally, using NLP, and this makes knowing the 'verbal language' a non issue.

Hypnosis requires language to accomplish the outcome, NLP can accomplish many things non verbally, but a common language certainly facilitates things.

skip

Simple Guy
08-31-2005, 09:30 PM
Hi Merlin,

"Of course, why would it matter since each individual's timeline needs to be elicited separately."

Practically speaking, it doesn't matter. It's of interest, though, because
any corellation would imply a proportionate weighting of nurture (language
learning) over nature (a genetically determined, subconscious coding of time flow).
I, too, have not seen a correlation, but my experience with native
right to left and up to down readers hasn't been large enough for me to
draw any definite first-hand conclusions.

Natalie Dee
09-01-2005, 09:54 AM
Hi everyone,

Thanks for your various replies and input.

I am running this Communication Workshop for my client and my own belief is that when they have awareness of how to communicate more openly at one level, let's say amongst themselves at their own office, this will more than likely have a ripple effect in other areas of their life, as well as influencing how they communicate with people in other countries and from other cultures.

All the best,

Natalie
www.natalie-dee.com (http://www.natalie-dee.com)

PS - Thanks for the positive feedback about my site!! Appreciated!! :)

Simple Guy
09-01-2005, 10:16 AM
Natalie,

My personal experience validates the accuracy of your belief. One
of my friends at this forum, in another regard, said: "Do the drills
and you'll get the skills." Practice makes more perfect and it's
no exception when this is applied to communication skills; excellent
practice and "ripple" it must.

Eric
09-01-2005, 12:51 PM
Hello Natalie,



The NLP language patterns are valid for any language in quite the same way. Any language obeys to the same rules of generalizations, distortions and eliminations. I speak and practice in four languages, and the difference I personally found is that certain languages seem to be less specific or seem to have a greater concept attached to a single word then others. In those cases the revealing of the deep structure of a sentence or word is an even greater eye opener for the parties involved, though the process to accomplish that (metamodel) is the same. Also, in intercultural communications, body language becomes very important, calibrating and pacing body language is essential for a good rapport and congruency.




All the best,



Eric

Merlin
09-01-2005, 07:13 PM
I don't believe in genetics, except in the coding for protein production.

Nearly 1/2 of americans code their timeline front-to-back.
I wonder what that would mean?

Interesting though.

Merlin
09-01-2005, 07:18 PM
I agree with Skip as far as non-linguistic applications of NLP