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06-09-2005, 08:12 PM
During a Tad James training this past year, we had a bit of an intriguing discussion about scars. If new skin is created every week or so, why do scars persist? Tattoos make sense; there's a presence of ink, but keloid tissue and pigments and such which can make up physical scar tissue were once normal skin. Quantum physics and the idea of bodymind, one unit, make me excited that we can learn to "undo" scarring more rapidly and regularly.
The question is: Why do scars persist? Is there neurotransmitter "stuck" there, a memory in the tissue, secondary gain? I am experimenting with Time Line Therapy in this regard as hypnosis has long been a recommended tool re: dermatology. I know of Pam Garrard's article in the TLT Newsletter some time back citing a client who cleared facial scars after releasing negative emotions. If anyone has any info, references, experiences, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks, Mahalo, Gracias, Ta (loving the UK connection; I hear your accents in your emails, lovely that!),
Do scars persist? Intriguing. About 5 years ago I was kicked in the head by a horse (which may explain my posts:D ) and received a 4 inch scar on my forehead - a hoove opened it to the skull, 16 stitches. Of course I kicked the horse back since I had done nothing to warrant the attack. Unfortunately, I could not reach it's forehead, so settled for its testicles. I do not have a scar on my forehead now, no trace, and the horse no longer kicks people.
Thirty years ago I had an operation on my stomach and the scar is still there.
Perhaps if I had performed a knife attack on the surgeon or at least given him a slap in the testicles, it might have vanished.
One of the problems with reconstructive maxillofacial surgery is that there is a tendency for the face to revert to the original injury - this was shown in several crewmen from the 'Sheffield' and the 'Sir Launcelot': both caught fire and sank during the British/Argentinian Falklands conflict and there were numerous severe burn injuries.
Any trauma creates an event memory and an associated emotion. There is no proof, but it seems logical that clearing emotional damage could result in the subconscious 'repair crew' returning to the previous physical template, before the trauma occurred. However, although some may disagree I do not think it possible that, despite the prodigious talent of the subconscious it can repair all physical damage, there appears to be a limit beyond which the subconscious cannot go; it cannot regrow limbs for instance. Nevertheless, it's a fascinating area.
06-10-2005, 01:33 PM
Thanks, great humorous response and a most interesting point.
I decided some time ago to believe anything was possible. Anything. So if a lizard can grow a new tail or a worm can regenerate half its body, I believe we could learn to grow new anythings. Neigh, why not?
I had a surgery (pre NLP, hypnosis training) which I wouldn't have had if I'd known. Nonetheless, I apologized and asked forgiveness of my body for the removal of parts in ignorance, but with best available knowledge and intention at the time, and since then my body manifests measurable changes in the Chinese medicine paradigm which shouldn't occur given I have no ovaries. Unlike the Western paradigm, my doctor has no problem accepting my "ghost" parts and working with them.
Maybe instead of punching our surgeons in the testicles, we could get them to ask our bodies permission and express good intentions prior to surgery. (Not to sound cynical, but I think the majority of the AMA would do that just after I grow the actual replacement glands.)
06-10-2005, 01:37 PM
I forgot that my possibility belief system lies both in the conscious and sub/unconscious mind, but manifests out of the higher conscious mind. I agree the unconscious has its limits, though we're not many of us even close to awareness of it true magnitude, but the hcm is limitless. IMO.
06-10-2005, 08:02 PM
I personally think we are capable of regrowing any body part. We did once, why not again?
We do have an abundance of stem cells to do it with.
Granted, it is not regularly done. Ever done?
I think the limitation is in the mind. It doesn't know it should?
As for scars, they can go away, but often don't. Sometimes emotions block healing.
Sometimes though, the mind repairs by building more of what is currently there rather than what should be there.
07-21-2005, 03:45 AM
Well I believe that it is very possible. My research indicates that the mind is an open-ended system, and so is our body. To stop the almost random thoughts passing through the brain from damaging our body, we have safeguards agaist such thoughts. However it is very possible that by disabling these safeguards we can manipulate the inherent malubility of the human body/mind.
07-21-2005, 08:04 AM
Come on guys, the real answer is obvious, and is a matter to time. In Jack's case he got kicked in the head which is bone covered by a thin membrain of skin which will heal quickly because of how thin it is. With a deep body cut, the scare is in all the various layers of skin to be found were flesh is thick and bone deep within. Hence it takes many years for the final layer of skin so scared to come to the surface and become dead and flake off. Remember, we only discard a very thin layer of skin each time. Now I do agree, some surgeons do deserve a kick you know were because of their careless attitude to the scare they leave behind, but kicking them will NOT assist recovery and removal of the scare, only make you feel better, a worthy but useless excercise I suppose.....As for regrowing body parts, I would never reject such a suggestion, but would in turn suggest that someone other than myself try it. After all, I did research for many years, and wish to live in peace and retirement, so don't ask me to do it please, but do feel comfortable about telling me you have succeeded (EG)
07-21-2005, 11:44 AM
Hmmm, I like Terry's post and I think I shall leave it at that. :)
07-22-2005, 04:50 PM
I have read, I think in one of Bob Becker's books, that a child under six years old can regenerate fingers including the first joint, IF the end is left open. That is, it is just covered lightly and kept clean.
07-24-2005, 04:19 AM
I always thought that scars are the same case as losing a finger - a change of physiology. our skin is not necessarily a system that can heal everything within itself so what is the difference?