Need Help on Parts Integration

[prfeiger]

Working with a client that has severe pain in his feet. His doctor says that the pain should not exist. He came to me desparate. This client had had an accident 28 years ago that caused him to be paralyed from the neck down with movement only in his arms and limited movement in his fingers. In spite of these impediments, he has become a very successful business man. I began with his personal history, and in the following sessions used Time Line Therarpytm tp release his anger, sadness, fear, guilt and hurt and hypnosis scripts to address his unconscious mind. He was very successful in finding his first cause and removing the negative emotions on his gestalt back to now. Future tested and found emotions gone. Then, at next session, he discovered his limiting decisions, removed the negative emotions and future tested clear. But there still, at the next session, remained some negative emotions surrounding events in his past. I used parts integration to make sure that we had addressed all the areas and discovered that he had a part that "...looked like a large black ball shaped icon, about the size of a basketball. Its purpose was to cause him pain; torture him and create misery." Chunking up had no effect. Chunking down created more pain. I am at a loss of where to go with this. I think this is a manifestation of his real underlying negative emotion that causes him the pain. I also think that the pain has its root in his response to his accident.

Perhaps some ideas on how to penetrate his "black ball" from this gathering would be very useful. I am open to all suggestions. Thanks.

Paul R. Feiger

[TaffyE]

he had a part that "...looked like a large black ball shaped icon, about the size of a basketball. Its purpose was to cause him pain; torture him and create misery."
Ask the part "What is your highest intention for the client? What is the purpose of the pain etc? If the part has that purpose, what will it have then?" and continue along that line.

Also ask what colour would be more comfortable and less painful cause less misery and torture.
Does the icon have a weight - if so is it heavy or light. Make its weight the opposite and see what effect that has.
Would changing its size have any beneficial effects. If smaller, reduce the size until it disappears, or break it up into smaller and smaller pieces until it is small enough to blow away. If bigger, make it increase in size until it explodes/bursts like a balloon.

Where is it in his body? Will moving it to another location help? If so move it to the edge (just under the skin) progressively until it looks like a zit then squeeze it out.

Would changing the shape help? If so, what would be a better one

Have you tried parts integration?

Some thoughts that may be useful, or not

[prfeiger]

Thanks. Asked the part that was causing pain what its purpose was. Part told me that its purpose was to use the pain to torture my client, torture without mercy. I asked what that gained for my client and what its higher purpose would be. The answer remained the same. So a new direction in the questioning seems warranted. I like the color idea and will use it, as well as finding the location and moving it.

Paul Feiger

[TaffyE]

Thanks. Asked the part that was causing pain what its purpose was. Part told me that its purpose was to use the pain to torture my client, torture without mercy. I asked what that gained for my client and what its higher purpose would be. The answer remained the same. So a new direction in the questioning seems warranted. I like the color idea and will use it, as well as finding the location and moving it.

Paul Feiger

Thasok.
Weight and size can also be important.


Part told me that its purpose was to use the pain to torture my client, torture without mercy.

"And having achieved that, what will you have?"
Repeat the question until you have either a specific answer ( ie root cause), or go past the part's boundary and so collapse it. Repeating the same answer indicates nudging the boundary, which the part will resist, so it's important to keep pressing

[Jack]

Hello Paul,

This part is not telling the truth or is part of another 'supra' part. There is a reason why it is hiding the truth. Ask other parts what the purpose of this untruthful part is. Then go back and ask the 'ball' part, once again.

If it was me, and please do not take this as an instruction, I would treat this part as hostile and work through the mediation of other parts until a sensible dialogue can be established. I would be completely open about my intentions without any attempt to subvert the 'ball' part, but very firm in my intentions. Mutual respect is needed and this part has not yet earned it, although apparently you have given it. This is a radical approach and one I would not use unless all other attempts at communication had failed and is highly dependent upon your subjective assessment of the client and the problem.

Jack

[Robert H]

Another thing you can do is to find the root cause of the part, the time when it was formed or split off, and heal that.

alternately you could find the root cause of the decision to cause pain / torture.

what is the opposing part? the flip side of the coin - ask the ball - you can't integrate parts until you have two or more to integrate.

You can do the entire 6 step reframing model in trance, with finger signals, an do yes/ no signals for everything....ever notice that all the questions in 6 step refreaming are yes no questions......hmmm ever wonder why???
.it is designed as a trance tool....feel free to use it that way.

You can also do hoo - pono pono on the part to heal the clients relationship with the part

sounds like a case where there is secondary gain - work very carefully and thoroughly through the health and healing factors

Another way to address the intention to cause pain thing is through clearing values conflicts, including away and hidden aways. Sounds like probably know how to do this. Remember - higher purpose = value.

- are you congruently nonverbally pacing the PART. Be sure that you fully pace the part - clear any resistance in yourself to the part having that pain ful intention. what you resist in clients persists. sounds like you may not have rapport with the part.

Fully pace the intention to cause pain - such as "Ok, and you want to cause pain, and if you fully, and completely caused him pain - what would that be like? And if you really did that WELL NOW(embedded command), what would that mean? "

You can meta-model or sleight of mouth torture

first get evidence procedure - what does toruture mean? how do you know when he is really being torutured? explore the chain of meaning - how do you know that that is torture ?

also chain of causes
what causes you to want him to be tortured? What makes you want that?

Ask part what is important to it in it's relationship to client - and clear values as above.

You can clear the parts negative emotions.

This is a metaphor - so deal with it metaphorically -- do a search for "clean language" for some exquisite patterns for working with the clients metaphors.

There is a meta-structure holding this in place - Michael Halls work is the answer for handling meta issues.

YOUR metaphor for the ball - per your original post is "penetrate" - that sounds rather torturous to me. how about tickling the ball, or massaging it, or kissing it, or hugging it, or painting it, or bathing it with healing water, or turning the light on inside the ball, or reshaping it, or teaching it to smile, or finding oout it's a resource, and getting the other parts (including the conscious mind) to respect - the power that it has

Ask the ball if it has the power to heal - that if wanted to could it allow healing to take place? what stops it?

Does the client have issues around hopelessness, helplessness, or worthlessness in general or around healing or pain?

Why does the client deserve to be tortured - is this punishment for something? clear it , clear the underlying anger and guilt.

you cleared some of the anger and guilt - I would bet there is more - hidden and being represented to you in the form of this black ball with seeminly evil intent.

how are you asking the intent question - ifyou are wording it with what do you want for THE CLIENT you may not be pacing the part. just ask the part what it wants.

what kind of a ball is it - baseball - basketball - soccer
how did you (ball) get so dirty?

what is the clients historty with that sport - clear any negative events or decisions or traumas around it.

who or what does the ball remind the client of?

What are the emotional qualities / behavioral / attitudinal qualities of the ball ?
What resources does the ball need?

In addition to hurting the client, what else does the ball want?

This should make for an interesting couple of sessions.




good luck,
Robert

[Robert H]

Oh, jsut re-read your post,

One more thing - if you ask higher purpose - the spatial metaphor of higher might not work for this client - try deeper purpose? or more important purpose? or more significant? or purpose do you need to fulfill?

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and lastly,

try using different modal operators - you can even map all the answers that the part for the various modal operators. what does it want through torturing him? what should it get by toruturing him? what does it not want? what does it need? what doesn't it need? what might it get? what will it get? what won't it get? what couldn't it get.

Treat each answer as 1) a limiting decision
2) a stepping stone for more exploration of purpose
3) a sub part to do a visual squash with

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The client may not have the belief that every behavior has a positive intent - he may believe that the higher purpose is to toruture - if you install the belief in positive purposes first it might give some leverage.

Also, the torture thing implies a NON-FRIENDLY UNIVERSE model.

You might ask him when he first decided that the universe was not a friendly place, and heal that.

further you might ask him how tortureing whould server to protect.

Also, has he ever tortured anyone or anything?

Who does he know who has tortured, or been torutured.

heal those people / events inside of him first.

have fun, relax, the ball is just a representation.... a way of communicating...don't freak out about it...

what is the purpose of a ball - to PLAY. So play with it. how long has it been since the ball has been played with?

Let us know how it goes, and what you learn,

Robert

[Robert H]

For some reason this is fascinating me...

Couple other thoughts -

Did he torture himself by getting into the accident? Or was he tortured, deliberately or by simply going through it?

What does it mean to be "black balled"? How, when, where, by whom has he been black balled? who has he black balled? If there are events like that - could be part of it.

Clear them up

have you cleared the emotions of Pain and Torture? try that. Obviously there is some charge around those words.

You could also pull out - or specify out all the the sensations, attitudes, emotions, and specific kinds of pain that make up pain and use time line to heal those up.

What could he say to the ball? What could the ball say to him? what could the pain in his feet say to him? what could he say to the pain in his feet?

---Ok---I think I have gotten this out of my system ----

Enjoy,

Robert

[Terry (existing)]

Without reading any of this thread except the last posting, I have a vision, and since it came unbidden, it might be of help to the non psychic. I see someone in pain, the pain is in the foot. I look at the feet, and note that the person in pain is standing on a black billiard ball, and this is the cause of the pain....Hope that is of help....... Sorry guys, I am in one of those moods today and can't stop....

[prfeiger]

This is in response to all that have responded to me. Thanks. I have taken all your suggestions and distilled them down so I have a working model process with which to proceed. Next meeting will be May 26, when I will be talking, schmoozing, etc. with the black part. All the info that you all very graciously provided got my juices flowing and I think we are on to something that will lead to my clients experiencing no discomfort for the first time in 28 years. I am very excited about this!!

Paul

[Robert H]

Paul,

I'm wondering if you would be willing to post the "working model process" that you created. If you aren't comfortable posting it here, could you email it to me - Robert@wisdomstrategy.com.

If it's something you are considering publishing, etc., I would be willing to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Also, I'm curious how your May 26 session went.


All the Best,

Robert