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harleystcool
01-16-2009, 10:08 AM
"What distinguishes a suggestion from other kinds of psychical influence, such as a command or the giving of a piece of information or instruction, is that in the case of a suggestion an idea is aroused in another person's brain which is not eamined in regard to its orgin but accepted just as though it had arisen spontaneously in that brain." Sigmund Freud

If this is true, why are hypnotists giving commands instead of suggestions? Hypnotists call it suggestions, but its not, for example, " you will wake up refreshed, you will work out everday", sounds like commands to me. Is it becuase the subjects aren't focusing on what your saying during there hypnotic state that the subconsous picks up on it? I know that Milton Ericson believed that the subcounsous is always listening. I am right? You guys go anything to add to this?

Don
01-16-2009, 01:31 PM
Harley, the problem is you know nothing about hypnosis.

Freud failed as a hypnotist. He couldn't do it. So he invented psychoanalysis in order to achieve the same results as hypnosis over a much greater time period so it would cost people more money.

Hypnotists, for the most part, are not Freudian psychologists. So why should we pay attention to what he, a failed hypnotist, says?

Second, your lack of understanding of hypnosis shows in that you're putting the emphasis on what the hypnotist does rather than what the client needs. Real hypnotists--not the imaginary ones you have created or picked up from reading obsolete books or watching fictional movies--use whatever their clients need. If they need suggestions (in the Freudian sense), they are given suggestions. If they need commands, they are given commands.

So let me ask you some questions.
Why do you care?
What difference does it make to you what hypnotists do?
Why do you think you know more than professionals who have been actually helping people for decades, rather than reading a couple of books?
Why did you come here with an attitude?

Poodle
01-16-2009, 06:44 PM
The reason Freud pubically gave for stopping hypnosis was because the female "patients" jumped up and kissed him.

The REAL reason was that he had done too much cocaine and had ruined his gums so his dentures did not fit well at all causing him great difficulty in speaking well and unable to induce trance. It seems as if the psychoanalysis became a mega hit with the wealthy.

Pood :)

Merlin
01-18-2009, 10:12 AM
Many hypnotists, like Freud, did give commands long, long ago.
They thought that was the thing to do.
Hypnosis, like other medical practices has grown up.