Self Hypnosis

[MrDigital]

I have lately been going into trance by setting my intentions and calibrating to my VK system until I get a response to just see where I wander...

I noticed one day that there was a visual display going on as I sat with my eyes closed and started wondering with amazement at how far I could take this state. Eventually leading to what I could only describe as like being a bird in flight over an ocean with an absolutely crystal clear display of everything in full technicolour...

Today I was keen to repeat the process with a challenge in mind and although at first my UC took its time the visuals eventually started and this time I was looking up at the clouds (eyes closed) and as the clouds broke I could see the stars in the background and on eventually to some other stuff that I dont seem to be able to recall other than a vague image of what it was. (when I looked at my watch 1hr and 5mins had passed) seemed like 5 mins!

Now, I'm sure there's a metaphor in there and something new for me to learn but my question is...

Is this something that is normally easily acheived through Self hypnosis or am I starting to get myself into the realms of deep trance? I am fascinated by what my UC presented to me and i'm curious now to learn more in this specific area.

Any advice or pointers would be appreciated and I hope I've communicated enough to gain some guidance from my mentors...

MrD

[MrDigital]

please guide me in my qestion,,,

[skip]

MrD,

Yes it is easily achieved in self hypnosis, and yes it is an indication of deep trance, assuming there is a difference.

Whats the difference between lucid dreaming and hypnosis induced positive hallucination?

I confess, I dont know.

Oh I am sure that there are some technical differences in the 'definitions', but functionally is there a difference?

Now I do know in lucid dreaming you let the UC start and then deliberately take over and go whence you will ... passive/active.

And your description seems to indicate that you set an intention and go where your UC takes you ... active/passive

I think I wouldnt worry so much about what it is, as what you can do while in the throes.

Can you, for instance, go and talk to someone specific?

Be they alive, dead, or otherwise engaged.

Can you interact physically with things or just observe.

When you attempt things like this, notice if the learning is all internal, subjective; or if you do have an influence on object at a distance or can verifiably communicate with people who arent physically in your immediate presence.

cheers,

skip

[Merlin]

Is this something that is normally easily acheived through Self hypnosis or am I starting to get myself into the realms of deep trance? I am fascinated by what my UC presented to me and i'm curious now to learn more in this specific area.

Any advice or pointers would be appreciated and I hope I've communicated enough to gain some guidance from my mentors...

MrD

trance and hypnosis are different things.

[MrDigital]

If I could take one thing - which I have among many things from the posters on this site is my inability to define trance from - hypnosis.

I hear the advice and can't wait to experience one of the best (Hypnotists) to take me into what they call hypnosis.

Micheal Watson on a master track - overheard me comment on this subject and gave me the best DTI experience that will stay with me forever. However his take on trance/hypnosis was that there was no difference and the experience was for me to experience it...

I went deeeeeep and it's my experience to keep, and I was in my mind the perfect subject... but it may be just sematics and I suppose being the willing subject I am I need to go see a dedicated hypnotist and tell him/her my desires...

quite pleased with my self hypnosis tho... if I say so myself...

Reason for editing... I have learned so much from this site words cannot describe, and I'm just glad I took the opportunity to listen rather than oppose.... Sometimes...

Just to add - I DTI'd with Milton and from that day on my experience in inducing trance with (anyone) was different in many ways... because to me everyone is in a trance.... what a buzz....

[MrDigital]

It's through reading Merlins FAQ that I ask this question... I am not educated to answer so forgive me in advance... But I listen to people stating that Trance (IS) Hypnosis... and really truthfully I don't beleive them...

I need maybe to experience the phenomena to comment but it just intrigues me to get a definition of what MY experience of the subject is...

Now... I am more than willing to seek a dedicated hypnotherapist to get my answers and I would travel the ends of the earth to have my own definitions... So please don't take this as anything but curiosity... And a chance to improve myself as always....

Wayne

[Henrik]

Hi, MrDigital.

To me a hypnotic trance is a trance where you genuinely feel no resistance towards having (being) that "impossible thing" you desire. You absolutely believe it in your gut that it is yours. That "thing" can be "feeling loved" ("love" being a watered-down word... I like "inclusion" better) or whatever it is that you desire.

So how "deep" the trance is is not important in this respect. You either feel absolutely associated into the experience of having it or not.

IMO a very interesting way to play with hypnotic trance is to work with opposites (or polarities). There are many who have written about ploarities. Some names are Zivorad Slavinsky, his son Filip Slavinsky, Robert Johansson. Another name that comes to mind, not directly related to polarities, is Joseph Riggio (epistemology/ontology).

Years ago I had many experiences in what will most likely be termed "deep meditative trance". For me they were amazing and fantastic experiences, but ultimately not that useful to achieve my goal(s). So I think it is a mistake to assume that "deep trance" is better or more useful than "light trance".

To me it boils down to "Do I absolutely feel associated into the experience of having it or not".

Henrik

[Poodle]

Forgive me please for asking but you really, really got my curiosity up. You actually became Milton? You had studied all of his work, videos, books to such an extent that you became Milton and knew and felt the world as he did? The idea behind this would be, of course, to bring back with you and you then model his behaviours. Did it change the way in which you work with clients, know about hypnotic trance and trance inductions, amazing language patterns? Did you feel the constant pain and awareness of the arm that would not work? Were you an earlier Milton version or a later Milton?

I'm fascinated by this as out of all the people that have been in this world, Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D., would most probably not have come to mind. I aspire to greatness but.....

From that experience, what did you bring back with you?

You can reply by PM if you wish. An eager mind wants to know!!

Pood :)

[Poodle]

of Merlin's reply to you. Yes, we are in trances all the time. Most people go into the "work" trance during the day. They also may have the "family time" trance, TV time trance or 1000's of others. None of these so called trances are a hypnotic trance. If you will please do a "search" you will find an expanded version of what constitutes a hypnotic trance that I wrote not too long ago that totally 100% incorporates what Merlin has written and that we have agreed to on this Forum: the by-pass of the CF. You will find it on my website as anyone that is a true hypnotist/hypnotherapist and teaches the subject matter should be able to back up what they are saying or teaching. We do pass through a similar trance to the hypnotic trance every morning, every evening and every 90-120 minutes of the waking day. Merl has written: "Catch it as it passes by." You can then deepen it and have magnificent by-pass of the CF.

Pood

[Merlin]

either you are hypnotised, or not.
depth is irrelevant
after (or before) you can enjoy the trance suggested.

[MrDigital]

Is something I beleive i undesrstand... It's the trance/hypnosis state that has been confusing me.. You see I believe I can bypass my own Cf just by entering a know nothing state and being in the moment... Hope that makes sense...

Anyway.. On to my experience with DTI I was a subject in front of an audience and although I was conscious much of the time and wodering whether it was REALLY working or not certain things were happening to me.. For one my hands seemed to be moulding together which I was partially aware of amongst other things... the profound experience experience for me was when the hypnotist asked me to (after much identity confusion) open my eyes as Milton Erickson.. Now I apreciate and hope you do to that there is much more to this than what I can express but whenI opened my eyes - all I could think was (everyone is in a trance)...

From that day forward trance inductions were like a walk in the park for me and I felt I was connected in some way to something Milton had had to offer. My confidence escalated beyond belief and the results thereon were astounding... Yes poodle I have studied erickson and even moreso now...

However, I think it't the belief that I took from that experience after seeing everyone zoned out and not even realising they were. As participants they were just witness to my trance, not realising they were )some of them) deeper in trance than I...

My enthusiasm to meet the best in the field makes me feel alive and this field is to me the key to not only freedom but to feeling alive.... And I feel alive...

Sorry for the ramble but I'm grateful that this thread has become an ember of what hopefully will fire up some stimulating thought on the subject...

Oh and Merlin... Where are you based cos I want some hypnosis :rolleyes:

P.S To add for my friend Pood - when I was brought out of trance and I thought"everyone is in a trance" I wasn't aware at the time but I had nothing whatsoever as far as feelings in my entire body and at the time was completely unaware. It wasn't until the feedback that I became conscious of my entire body paralysis other than my thoughts... I e-mailed M.Watson and thanked hime for one of the best experiences EVER and was truly grateful he recognised me as being worthy of the experience....

[Merlin]

Is something I beleive i undesrstand... It's the trance/hypnosis state that has been confusing me.. You see I believe I can bypass my own Cf just by entering a know nothing state and being in the moment... Hope that makes sense...
maybe sometimes.
test it!
enter a know nothing state and being in the moment...
Then give a suggestion of anesthesia. then jab yourself with a knife.
no pain if your CF was bypassed.

Anyway.. On to my experience with DTI I was a subject in front of an audience and although I was conscious much of the time and wodering whether it was REALLY working or not certain things were happening to me.. For one my hands seemed to be moulding together which I was partially aware of amongst other things... the profound experience experience for me was when the hypnotist asked me to (after much identity confusion) open my eyes as Milton Erickson.. Now I apreciate and hope you do to that there is much more to this than what I can express but whenI opened my eyes - all I could think was (everyone is in a trance)... DTI or imagination?

From that day forward trance inductions were like a walk in the park for me and I felt I was connected in some way to something Milton had had to offer. My confidence escalated beyond belief and the results thereon were astounding... Yes poodle I have studied erickson DTI or imagination?

and even moreso now...
why?
if you DTI then there should be no need.

However, I think it't the belief that I took from that experience after seeing everyone zoned out and not even realising they were. As participants they were just witness to my trance, not realising they were )some of them) deeper in trance than I...

My enthusiasm to meet the best in the field makes me feel alive and this field is to me the key to not only freedom but to feeling alive.... And I feel alive...

Sorry for the ramble but I'm grateful that this thread has become an ember of what hopefully will fire up some stimulating thought on the subject...comes across to me as imagination.

P.S To add for my friend Pood - when I was brought out of trance and I thought"everyone is in a trance" I wasn't aware at the time but I had nothing whatsoever as far as feelings in my entire body and at the time was completely unaware. It wasn't until the feedback that I became conscious of my entire body paralysis other than my thoughts... I e-mailed M.Watson and thanked hime for one of the best experiences EVER and was truly grateful he recognised me as being worthy of the experience....

[MrDigital]

I just adopted the belief that you can 'pretend' anything....

Or use my imagination...

[skip]

Can you 'pretend' that you are limited?

[Poodle]

I like pretend. Pretend your hand is numb and stab it again with a knife. How well did you pretend? There is quite an art to pretending. Watch your son. I'd bet he has the art of pretending down to a T. :)

[MrDigital]

Can anyone pretend to educate me ?

One thing I don't like about this site.... You have to prise open the genius before it gives you a glimmer...

It could be described as good in one sense, but I reckon it sends a lot of people away... Depending which sense their in...

Wayne

[Terry]

Easy and much better than....
Just close your eyes at any time and imagine that I am instucting you in how to treat people as you would wish to be treated. This of course saves me time ...,

[Poodle]

I have seen it taught by one of the leading instructors in the USA. One can pretend sufficiently to by-pass their own CF. I have seen it done for pain control.

This seems to be pretty much of a lost art as an adult. This is why I suggested that he model his child. It's been sooo long since I've been a child I'm not sure if I could do it or not.

The exact language is "pretend" and not "imagine".

With respect,
Pood :)

[MrDigital]

Pretend? Easy and much better than....
Just close your eyes at any time and imagine that I am instucting you in how to treat people as you would wish to be treated. This of course saves me time ...,
Last edited by Don; Yesterday at 04:53 AM. Reason: remove personal insults


I am intrigued, and... I believe to be able to take the odd knock on the chin... Don removed some what 'he' considered to be personal insults... Would you kindly PM them to me as there may be spme key learnings in there I may have missed...

Regards

Mr D

and... Happy new year

[Terry]

I never insult, just tell the truth as I see it, and the same was so in the case of what was removed. Sadly, I cannot remember what I said, I truly wish I could, since I find it annoying that my valuable comments were removed... So much so in fact, that I am considering my membership on this board where postings are replied to in a manner that I consider to be politically correct, but not necessarily honest, while I balance it out with what I say, which is said with honesty of purpose. I am a therapist, that means I study human nature and human behaviour, and as such I speak , and if Don finds it not to his liking so be it, but I have decided that I will no longer be dependant on his reading of my replies, so I will no longer be posting here. Anyone wishing to contact me can do so, but I will reply privately with the same honesty that gains me a high price on the open market. Don is granted the honour of being better at writing books, since I have never published, and he is granted the honour of being superior to me in the field of magic, which I have never comprehended, but when it comes to hynosis, I grant him no such superiority and I will no longer tolerate him questioning my replies to postings based on his personal belief of how replies should be sculted to fit his thinking...
I believe what I said, was with regard to online training, which to most of us is not possible, and to your dependance on such to the detriment of anyone with whom you worked. Had you been given the opportunity to read is, you would have decided for yourself if what I had to say was valid or not. Don in his wisdom decided you should not have that opportunity, and such is his right, but that right only exists so long as I allow it, and I have decided I will no longer do so.....
Anyone wishing to contact me in future may do so at anthonytj@ shaw.ca I will now concentrate on my clinic which officially is now open, and on a couple of cases which fell into my lap once it was known that I was out of retirement... I am betting it will be far more enjoyable to be doing instead of talking, I miss the old days....

[MrDigital]

Let me just add...

NEVER... and i mean sincerely NEVER... have I take your posts as insults... My reason for remaining on this site has been the fact that things come in... succcint and to the point...

YOU more so.... I have learned so much AND paid for my trainining (sometimes for what they're worth), that's why I consider certain folk my mentors. So please don't leave me... Give me your wisdom and if it gets deleted PM ME...

Moderators have their intentions but maybe that's cos some people can't stand to listen to what's being said.... I can and that's why hopefully I can remain in contact with you...

Terry ... your words stick - ok I have a recycle bin - but I read them like a starving child...

Wayne

[Poodle]

I agree and you have so very much to give to new and old alike. Please don't go as you know you are loved here by many of us which also includes Skip who is also a moderator.

I well remember my first post here and you kicked my behind from here until Heaven would not have it. I learned and I learned to read between the lines of what you wrote and still write.

In case you have not figured it out, you are like the great father figure to us here and perhaps Grandfather to others.

Written with love for a great man,

Anne (Pood)

[Connie]

Wow! This is dismaying! :(

Terry, your voice has been one that has helped shape me in my new life, which I am LOVING more than anything and any time prior. You're my "dad." :) I respect you. Massively. And your choices. If you decide to concentrate your attention to where it will do the most good (your clinic), that's fantastic!

I would love to keep in communication with you! Here, or email, or telephone, or any medium you choose.

Much love,
Connie

[Henrik]

I too find this very sad. The work I have done I've done myself, but you have been and are a great source of inspiration and wisdom and also a friend Terry...

Henrik

[Don]

Terry, I have never claimed superiority to you in hypnosis, and to claim, as you have, that I have in any way done so is false and misleading.

Further, your claim that I have edited out any of your comments about hypnosis and technique is also false and misleading. I have never done so. Even if I disagreed with something written by you or anyone else, I would not edit it for that reason. Instead, I would allow it to go through and make a comment upon it.

However, in various posts you have accused people of wasting your time, being idiots, and other attacks on people that are simply nothing more than personal attacks having nothing to do with hypnosis or hypnotherapy. That I have edited. I will edit out personal insults made by anyone, and have done so.

This has nothing to do with you or with your expertise in any field of endeavor. It has only to do with keeping these forums civil and open for discussion.

If you haven't noticed it, we get many newcomers here, and your comments to them are often harsh and sometimes insulting. I edit out the insults, but for many of the newcomers, the harshness remains. They are surprised and often comments on that once or twice and never return. Even so, I have never deleted or edited out one thing you have posted that has to do with hypnosis, hypnotherapy, or related fields. I've only edited out the insults.

And now, Terry, you are making a de facto threat--either we allow your personal insults of people you don't even know to continue, or you'll refuse to post any more. That, sir, is your decision. And, in fact, if you wanted to post here you are welcome to do so at any time as long as you don't insult people. Further, if you wanted to continue with insults and get the posts to be included, unedited, you could email Dr. Matt. These forums belong to him, and if he says, "let 'em go," I would follow those dictates.

Be aware, however, of two things. First, Dr. Matt does take the time to investigate various comments and claims. Second, the editing done by Skip and myself consists of "soft edits." That means the original posts, complete, are still there, just hidden from view. It means that with a simple click, Dr. Matt would be able to see all the times you've called people names, insulted them, and accused them of wasting your time.

You say, "I never insult." I'm sure you don't think you do. However, in your recent post here is what I edited out:
1) you accused a poster of wasting your time,
2) You accused him of posting "BS" for people to "swallow,"
3) You called the person's post "garbage,"
4) You told the poster that he deserves to get "BS" given to him.

These are insults. They have NOTHING to do with hypnosis. It was these comments and only these comments that were edited out of your post.

Terry, I have always enjoyed your posts and rarely disagreed with you. However, if you continue to post here—and I sincerely and honestly hope you will do so—insults such as those will be edited. It doesn't matter who posts the insults, the will be edited. On a couple of occasions Skip has even edited or deleted a post I made. I don't claim to be perfect or ideal.

Terry, if you think I have unfairly edited any of your posts, just send me the URL of the particular post and I will gladly explain exactly why it was edited.

I want to strongly repeat here that I have never edited anyone's comments about hypnosis, hypnotherapy, etc. I have edited out insults and will continue to do so until I am asked by Dr. Matt not to do so.

[Connie]

I appreciate the work you do here, Don!!! :)

And this is a cordial forum. It feels warm here. Like HOME. (Of course growing up in my house people did fight and scream and throw things...lol.) Terry, no one wants you to go. NO ONE! We love you.

Stick around, and share your thoughts. Don't edit yourself. Why should you? I like your style.

What's difficult here (in a written only medium) is for people (newbies) to understand what's behind the words, and get the positive intention. However, I can feel it, in everything you write.

[Poodle]

is to chose the battles that I personally feel are worth taking a stand upon, i.e., truth and merit to them. Otherwise, I have just entered what Skip calls a "pissing contest".

What do I know about MrDigital? I know for sure that he studied hypnosis in-person with lots of practice on other students. Secondly I know that he is a NLP Trainer through Dr. John Grinder. We can always learn "new" tricks from other people but to insult Wayne's training is an insult to one of the founders of NLP and also an international hypnosis instructor who seems to appear throughout the USA and Europe. This, IMO, means Wayne has more than paid his dues and learned properly and correctly. I accord him my respect. I also know he has a great 'cents of humour' as he sent Bandler a note wanting to know if Bandler/La Valle needed any help, he'd pop over since they were having trainings at the same time at the same hotel.

Pood :)

[Soren K (existing)]

Hang tough Terry :)

Hey, you know there is nothing worse (well actually there are a lot of worse things - what is going on over in Gaza and Israel is disturbing me greatly at the moment) than a judgment that accuses you of something which is the opinion of a person in authority over what you intended to do. People have different ways of showing their values and teaching the values that have served them well in particular pursuits. While some things may come across as insulting, what use is it to call them insults? That sounds to me like creating a picture of someone who is dishing out hateful items like a meanie throwing icy daggers. Can I ask if it might be more appropriate to perhaps use something along the lines of reason for editing: 'remove potentially offensive material' as an alternative to 'remove insults' since the former is less emotive and paints an moderate appraisal in my view. We all know that Terry is man who cuts to the beef, but he is not mean spirited, whereas he does display integrity in his valuable teachings in the many spirited manners in which these are conveyed. I vote for diplomacy where discernment is appropriate.

All best,
Soren

[Don]

Soren, my dictionary defines insult as "speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse."

Telling someone that their post is "garbage" and that they deserve to get "BS" is insulting.

Frankly, there are lots of ways to speak "diplomatically," and I'm in favor of it. However, I think that if someone makes posts that are diplomatic—even if they are direct and hard hitting—then we wouldn't need moderators such as Skip and myself to edit posts that contain insults. :)

[Terry]

This is probably the hardest post I have had to make, because after reading what you seemed to feel as a necessary defence of your actions you display an attitude I find childish. I wish you no ill will, but to me a friend is someone who treats you as an honest person, capable of hearing the truth, and even if it hurts, accepting that such was offered in friendship and not as an angry tirade....
You on the other hand feel the need to defend what was not acceptable to me, and to do so by suggesting backmail of some sort. Don, I consider you to be a decent human being, and as such I accepted you as a friend. I DO NOT BLACKMAIL ANYONE. I tell you that I see you as behaving like an old women, and I am sure that is hurtfull, but I never refrain from comment simply because it might hurt, since at times such hurt causes you to pause and consider, just as at times your intervention in a post was accepted as valid on due consideration. However it seems that we will never agree on what is or is not acceptable, and you work hard to keep this forum intact, so please allow me the right to not participate under the conditions you feel necessary, since to me they are not acceptable, and it matters not who is correct..... I leave with no hard feelings on my part, and if you feel agrieved that is a problem you must deal with since I cannot change you, and have no desire the change myself. I value the friendships I have made here, and see no reason why such should terminate in anger or in any negative manner. I will always be open to contact in the future, but must be where, and do what I consider of greater importance to those around me.....
In my last post my email address is appended, and I will be happy to keep in touch with friends even if only in short spurts due to the time involved in not just the work, but also in training those who will keep the work going after I am gone, and of course in writing my book, which I hope to get help with from younger family members who have a bent for such, (the only reason I am even considering it)...God Bless you all, and may 2009 bring you all you hope for and deserve....

[Don]

Terry, as I wrote, I have a great deal of respect for you. I find it odd that you call my actions "childish." After all, it was you who posted that you didn't like the way your posts were edited so, basically, you were going to take your ball and go home, that is, not post any more.

Your post implied that either you be allowed to continue to post, including insults, or you were going to deny us your voice. Either do X or Y will happen. That, sir, is blackmail. I'm going to assume that you don't realize it's blackmail any more than you didn't realize that telling people their posts were "garbage" and they deserved to get "BS" from you was, and is, a personal insult.

Terry, it is fully possible to cause hurt to someone without insulting them. Likewise, it is fully possible to cause people to pause and consider without insulting them. I have enough respect for you to know that you are easily capable of doing that, but for some reason you choose not to do so. Sort of like an old woman who refuses to give up a rotary phone for a new-fangled push button phone. :)

Everyone has the right to participate or not on these forums. We don't have a lot of rules. However, the rules we have about posts are pretty simple: don't sell or advertise, and don't make personal insults. If anyone breaks those two rules, their posts are edited.

Terry, if you choose to leave, that is up to you. I will hate to see you go.

If you do decide to stay away, I wish you great luck. I have helped some people get published and sell hundreds of thousands of books. When you finish your book, if I can be of help to you, please let me know.

[Connie]

Hey! Enough with this sexist language "old woman" stuff. :eek: Why isn't it an old man who can't figure out a telephone?? Come to think of it, that's agist as well. Generalizations suck!

[Don]

You're right, Connie. Thank you. I apologize to anyone who considers herself to be an "old woman" and, in fact, to anyone who considers himeself or herself to be "old."

Now, if I can just get my VCR to stop blinking 12:00 at me... :)

[Connie]

There is no old.

I'm a spring chicken. Well, maybe a summer chicken! :)

[Don]

There is no old.

Maybe not, but my social security number is 23. :eek::eek::D

[Poodle]

the OLD Pood just may be the oldest here. I've faaaarrrr past spring chicken and summer chicken. I must be a late fall chick. It's really okay as both sides of my family lived to around 100 so I have great genes. Connie, while shopping this afternoon I saw a movie for sale being advertised. It's name is Igor. Small world, huh?

We cannot buy VCR tapes and they are saying DVD's are on their way out too in favor of Blu-Ray. I LOVE my VCR and hope it never dies as I can only get my DVD player programmed in Spanish. Books also can come on something called "Kindle" but I don't know what that is yet and as of now I don't even care.

Pood ;)

[skip]

Wow!

I have just returned from the Apple Growers meeting, what my grand daughter calls the school where you learn about dirt, worms, bugs and bees. The meeting where we plot revenge against the Chinese, who are selling apple juice concentrate for less than we spend on just fertilizer.

And I find that you folks are 'pruning the orchard'.

To quote John Wayne (a great American) speaking in his role as Hondo, "I believe in letting a man do what he wants to do."

And to be honest, I have done exactly as Terry is doing, on another list. A list I became a member of, near its inception, just as Terry did here, and was a strong poster for about 10 years, just as Terry has been a strong poster here for a long time.

I stopped posting simply because it wasnt worth the cost any more. Now there can be lot of different details that led to that decision, but the bottom line for me and apparently for Terry is, "It isnt worth the time, effort, heartache, whatever, any more."

And that is sad.

I realize we cannot be everything to everybody. And I wouldnt want to get into some theoretical discussion of how many who are 'all vine and no taters', is it worth pissing off to retain ...

Terry is someone who ought be more reviered in our field. He hs been a mover and motivator and mentor for thousnds. He has pushed the edges and boundries of hypnosis in ways that far too many are simply unaware of. His tireles efforts to improve the quanty and quality of hypnosis available to the public, are profound. His theories and the work he calls 'body sculpting' are amazing. His research into more esoteric realms is credible and the results little short of astounding.

His message was simple. 'I will offer help and support to anyone who is willing to put in the effort with me. I have no time for the lazy and or foolish.' And yes, it was often delivered as as if he were a 'Dutch Uncle'.

Most of us like straight forward, plain talk, unless it is directed at us.

I will miss him. I will miss his wisdom borne of long experience and much learning. We simply are all poorer for this. There are empty shoes here now, an empty space where once there was friend. And if I could, I would persuade him to reconsider.

BUT

I too believe a man ought to do what he wants to do.

It is the only way one adult, who respects another, can treat him.

Fare well Terry.

skip

[Ruth2]

Just because Terry won't be here doesn't mean the end of your friendship. Those of us who are neophytes here will be the greatest losers because we don't really know him; those of you who are friends with him will still be friends if you so choose. And why not?

Perhaps Terry will one day write about what he's learned; that way we can all be richer than we are now.

Ruth2

[Merlin]

And your serial no. is? (before they used ss no.)

[Connie]

Books also can come on something called "Kindle" but I don't know what that is yet and as of now I don't even care.

Pood ;)

I bought my hubby a kindle, and he LOVES it!!!

[Connie]

Most of us like straight forward, plain talk, unless it is directed at us.

So true. That made me laugh out loud.

I will miss him. I will miss his wisdom borne of long experience and much learning. We simply are all poorer for this.

Also true for me.

Maybe he'll reconsider. Find time here as well as for his other important work.