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Hertz
03-29-2005, 07:35 AM
Hi everyone,
Is it possible to anchor a trance state?.I am considering going to a hypnotherapist and let him/her lead me to trance and anchor the state.
My purpose is to be able to recall that state of trance by myslef by triggering the anchor.
Is this possible?Please let me know, i don't want to spend money if it doesn't work.
And if it seems that it is a stupid question..well forgive my ingnorance:)
Thanks in advance.
DrTadJames
03-29-2005, 11:54 AM
Sure it is possible to anchor a trance state. We know that from NLP, where using anchors has made it easy to recall the trance state. I have even seen where Erickson said to one man, "In a moment I will touch you on the knee, and when I do it again at a later date that will be your signal to go back to the same state you are in now."
But, Hertz, what is your reason for wanting an anchor? To go into trance easily? If you want to do that use the Elman Hypnosis Technique. Dave Elman wrote about it in his book, Hypnotherapy, in the 1950's. His technique is also written up in Hypnosis, a Comprehensive Guide. The main thing is to have fun.
Merlin
03-29-2005, 07:55 PM
Hi,
Yes, anchoring of hypnotic states is easy.
Merlin
03-29-2005, 07:57 PM
Dr. James,
There are states beyond the level accessible with Elman's method.
Yet they too can be anchored.
Hertz
03-30-2005, 04:41 AM
Thank you for your reply.
Yes, my purpose is to be able to go to trance easily and use it with commercial as well as home made audio.
Will 1 sesssion be enough to anchor the state?
While in trance what brainwave will I be in..Alpha,Theta or a combination?I can easily go to Aplha while meditating.
Thanks again.
Hertz
Alonso
03-30-2005, 10:02 AM
I don't think it would be good to be in a trance unless you understand what can be done in it. After 1 session you will not know what a trance is well enough to want to anchor it (I think).
Hertz
03-30-2005, 10:11 AM
I just called a hypnotherapist.He said that i need 2 sessions and each session is $300.Is that the regular fee for a session?
Alonso can you explain "unless you understand what can be done in it".
Do you think it is bad idea to anchor it?
Hertz
Alonso
03-30-2005, 10:37 AM
Yeah, how much do you know about altered states of consciousness?
How much have you studied hypnotic trances?
Where do you want to go with it?
I mean, I wouldn't want to teach someone if they don't seem to be able to handle it.
Oh, and you don't need to learn how to anchor it, you probably cant in two sessions. You need to build the state in yourself. You need ways to get there that are different and that can adapt to the scenarios in which you will find yourself.
I don't mean to gather up some enemies but don't go to a hypnotherapist with such a complex question because he'll get so mad he'll just want to take your money. Yes, some are like that, they're like those magicians practicing voodoo that post ads in the newspaper claiming they can get you a new wife or cast spells on someone you hate. I'm just kidding, I hope hypnotherapists who are like that find out soon enough that they suck.
Hertz, your question is quite valid but you need to go with Richard Bandler on this. He actually enjoys making people go into trance and turning them into whatever they feel is possible. He'll teach you enough to make you know how, when, and why. I would recommend a visit to nlpstore.com. There's actually a 2 dvd set called 'trancing in and out' but I would buy the 8 dvd 'konstanz 2000' set. I did. It'll show you how to go into trance believe me and how to find out how you can make an anchor yourself. I went into trance yesterday such as you want to be able to do. It's not that difficult to do, at least after watching this seminar it wasn't.
Merlin
03-30-2005, 07:55 PM
>Will 1 sesssion be enough to anchor the state?
It should be.
>While in trance what brainwave will I be in..Alpha,Theta or a combination?
Alpha is common, but not required.
Trance does not equate to brainwave types.
If you seek a brainwave type, invest in an EEG biofeedback machine.
Merlin
03-30-2005, 08:01 PM
>and each session is $300.Is that the regular fee for a session?
It varies tremendously.
The normal procedure would be to have the hypnotist anchor the state and teach you to trigger the anchor.
1 session is enough if the hypnotist knows what s/he is doing.
Hertz
03-31-2005, 01:33 PM
Thank you for your replies.
I will consider your suggestions and select the best fit.I am definitely not going for 2x $300 sessions just to anchor the trance.
Hertz,
Before you let that set in cement ...
Im not saying you should go for 2x300, Im not saying you cant find equal quality for less ...
I would suggest that you take into consideration what the value of being able to access deep trance whenever you like will be.
I suspect that if you were going to use it to improve your life, 2x300 is a paltry sum, compared to the potential you are recieving for the dollars.
If you arent going to use it, dont spend anything because the price is too high at one dollar.
If you are going to live the rest of your life the way you want to, because of what you do with this information, it is a bargain at 100,000.
There is a vast difference between a price and an investment.
skip
Hertz
03-31-2005, 03:35 PM
Skip,
I agree, you do have a point.
I do believe anchoring trance will be beneficial and a positive investment.
I am currently working on anchoring the Theta state but without success until now.
I have successfully anchored Alpha state.
I do want to explore and learn NLP,I actually bought a book but it was too advanced and didn’t understand anything.
I do want to anchor trance and I will probably do it once the deal I am working on goes through.
So as you can see there are a couple of projects I am working on. And I have to give priorities.
I will start with Merlin’s suggestion and get a biofeedback machine; and anchor Theta.
Thanks again.
P.S: any advise for good introductory book on NLP will be much appreciated.
Hertz
sy-27
04-12-2005, 02:29 AM
NLP Workbook by Joseph O'Connor. Is great i use it myself, it is very nicley worded and laid out with plenty of explinations and exercises to do.
Hop this helps:)
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Trance does not equate to brainwave types.
Just to keep Merlin honest, not everyone, myself included believe that statement to be true. In fact after many thousands of hours of both therapy and research I would say the reverse is true. I would only substitute the word 'states' for the word 'types'.
Jack