How Come?

[VcElder]

I have combed over the hypnosis forum a good deal and there are some really well thought out and informative threads,

Anything from merlin's Faq, to books to read, to derren brown to smoking and dealing with clients.

Why is it that none of this information is stickied with a "start here"? It would probably cut down on alot of the basic questions. Even if it was just a faq, or thread links....

Vic

[Poodle]

but most people log in and just want a quick fix. Rare are the kinds like you that really want to learn. I believe the Bible mentions "casting pearls before swine". That could also be very true of this Forum. Those that wish to learn will find those pearls and the correct training.

Be well,
Pood :cool:

[Terry]

I have combed over the hypnosis forum a good deal and there are some really well thought out and informative threads,

Anything from merlin's Faq, to books to read, to derren brown to smoking and dealing with clients.

Why is it that none of this information is stickied with a "start here"? It would probably cut down on alot of the basic questions. Even if it was just a faq, or thread links....

Vic Actually the answer is very simple, there is no intention of teaching anyone online, just providing general information. If you first read our introductionary page you will see that this is our intent. Online teaching fails to produce decent trustworthy practitoners, and our interest is only in seeing those who come here to get information leading to practise are properly trained in theory, practise, and the knowledge of how to twin the two....
I have spent forty years in practise, and am still learning in spite of taking trainings, doing my own research, and teaching others. This is an area that is so vast we never plumb the depths even when we do it right...

[VcElder]

"There is no intention of teaching anyone online, just providing general information."

Who said anything on teaching? How many times do regulars point to Merlin's Faq?

I guess I just don't understand the harm in posting a FAQ someone points too every 3 or 4 posts anyway. Is the FAQ Teaching anyone anything online or does this FAQ that the regulars point to qualify as general information?

[skip]

I think it is an excellent idea VC.

Are you personally volunteering to out together an FAQ, or are you trying to volunteer someone else?

skip

[parsa]

I think it's a good idea too and I would volunteer to start putting together such a section.

[Poodle]

Nnnooowwww get those fingers moving on that keyboard.

I've been promising Merl to do one on NLP for about two years now. :o

Pood :)

[VcElder]

I think it is an excellent idea VC.

Are you personally volunteering to out together an FAQ, or are you trying to volunteer someone else?

skip

Nope I will gladly do it. I just didn't want to take the time to put together the FAQ or Link list only to have it shot down for what ever reason. I will post it within 48 hours.

Vic

[parsa]

Since VC volunteered to do a FAQ in 48 hours and Merlin's is already pretty complete, I thought I'd do something a little different but I think it's going to take some time.

I was thinking about doing something like categorizing the threads as best as I can and as best as my patience will allow me:). Like the contents of a book or an index or something.

[VcElder]

Just to clarify,
I am not rewriting anyone's FAQ. All I am going to do is compile, copy and paste and post all ready written information that has been posted. I will more than likely just post the links as not to confuse anyone on who the author was.
--Vic

[Connie]

If people are so lazy or incapable as to be unable to use the "search" function here and make even the most minimal attempts to help themselves, I don't know that I'm interested in helping them, either. Vc, what you're proposing in your post above this one sounds totally useless to me. The information is available to anyone who is interested. Now.

[parsa]

Yeah, I was having this issue too Connie.

I mean I actually started putting something together but I'm thinking it doesn't look that much different from what people can find with the search engine and so it does seem kind of useless.

[Connie]

I for one enjoy my own searches on the forum, and often find subtopics and ideas which direct me in new directions. It's fun. I wouldn't want to read someone else's subset of answers that they think are relevant based on their own search terms and ideas. If anyone wants to, though, go ahead! Knock yourself out! I won't be reading it or considering it a resource, however.

[VcElder]

Understood. The resource isn't really for the seasoned regulars though. I mean I would think you guys get tired of typing the same stuff over and over again.
" See a person for live training, video training doesn't do"
" Hypnosis isn't sleep, Merlin's FAQ is a great place to start"
" See a well trained hypnotist for your problem, Hypnosis CD's dont work"

Maybe not. Maybe its enjoyable for some of you. Typing the same message over and over again. Either way, any forum surfer that has a little sense will usually check the stickies

Will it cut out stupid questions completely? of course not, its a forum. Some people will always ignore the stickes. But atleast when someone asks, you don't have to type some drawn out message about live training. Just type, "Check the sticky, it will answer your question." Or not. Its just an option. Never hurts to have options.

[Poodle]

Go for it! You may want to add in "will hypnosis make the bad memory go away" or "I just broke up with my bf and want to forget him. Can hypnosis do that?"

Pood

[Connie]

Oh, I see. It's not about a search for information. It's about answering people's particular questions and "seeking assistance" queries. You want to just push a button rather than engage with someone...

That's riiiight. Everyone's the same, and their issues are the same as well. :rolleyes: Believe that if you want!!!! :eek:

PS: Hypnosis CDs do work.

[VcElder]

Oh, I see. It's not about a search for information. It's about answering people's particular questions and "seeking assistance" queries. You want to just push a button rather than engage with someone...

That's riiiight. Everyone's the same, and their issues are the same as well. :rolleyes: Believe that if you want!!!! :eek:

Kind of a bit of a stretch on the chunk, no? Just to continue the discussion though..(For engagement purposes, of course...)

Can you tell me that 80% of the posts in this forum doesn't include the following?
either getting live training,
getting a professional hypnotist, or
discussing a misconception about hypnosis..which then leads to the above two statements.

Maybe a FAQ stickied could help cut down on some of the sillier questions.

I mean lets hop over to another post and see....


I checked another post next to this one and I quote from Connie:
Too much late night television. :eek:

Mio, if you'd like to learn more about what real hypnosis is and can do, spend some time reading the back pages on this forum.

Hmmm...

And another...
You've already asked this question, and you've been told that you don't currently understand what hypnosis is. It's a natural state of mind which is not sleep, and is not "mind control" as you seem to believe. Our team member here named Merlin has lots of frequently asked questions about hypnosis and her answers, linked under her screen name. Check those out!

Maybe I am missing something here? Where is the calibrated engagement? all i see is..."you don't understand...its not sleep or mind control, check the faq"

Hmm...Just pointing to a FAQ? Sounds like its what I had in mind. But I won't assume anything. Maybe there is something I am missing.

Pood, Skip, I will message you my post for your revision...make sure its to your liking and you can pass it to whomever else if it is to be stickied.


--Vic

[Poodle]

but it really needs to go to Skip and Don as they are the moderators. If it meets with their approval, final approval will be up to Dr. Matt, owner of this little place.

I am sure we have a mis-belief floating around here and that is what you think Connie had in mind when she wrote that people should use the "search" feature. It comes down to poster wanting instant gratification as they are very sure in their own minds that they are the only person in the whole wide world that this has happened to, etc., etc., etc..
You may wish to mention that we do have a "search" function and oodles of great information will come up when it is used.

Thanking you in advance for your efforts,

Pood :)

[VcElder]

Heya pood. I actually Pmed you skip and merlin my basic introduction...I would love an email address I could email the whole document FAQ....its only a few pages for now...but I have an Idea for a:
Derren Brown Section
I want to learn about Hypnosis Section.

I definately wrote a blurb about the search function.. I also wanted to talk to Merlin about elaborating on some answers....please check PM. Thanks.

Vic

[Connie]

I would like someone with a little more understanding of hypnosis and common sense than you involved in such a project...

That's right (again). Of my 2000 plus posts here, all replies are canned.

[Terry]

Vic, perhaps some of us are misunderstanding your intent, but for me it is simple. If you really do want advise that you will act on because it is important to you, or if direction will result in change for you by your own actions based on that direction, then indeed we have accomlished what we intend to acomplish by spending time here.
If on the other hand you are not willing to make any effort to help yourself, my thoughts are simple enough, you just are not interested enough to benefit from information already offered here, but needing you to make some effort to find it or ask about it.
Merlin posted her FAQ as a valuable help to those who wanted information, and I suggest to you that obtaining such is not beyond the skills of anyone who really needs our guidance. Certainly do as you wish, but understand that those who attend this board to help others are both limited in what we can offer, and annoyed when our time is wasted by those who merely want to be titilated. This is not intended as an insult,just pointing out that we are not here as servants to time wasters, but rather as friends to those in true need...

[Poodle]

Put Connie on that list of yours please.

Pood :)

[VcElder]

Put Connie on that list of yours please.

Pood :)

Will Do.

--Vic

[Poodle]

Let's all blank the previous correspondences out and start from a clean, clear, white (maybe slightly gray) color and all of us work on this together. We are the Forum Leaders so all should have a say or nay.

Done deal?

Pood :)