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justthefacts
10-14-2008, 07:05 AM
What does anyone out there know about the police use of hypnosis and the law? Especially in Ohio. It appears that police departments are being trained in hypnosis more and more these days. This is evident, especially if you visit marxhowell.com. I need to know all I can on this subject.

Jack
10-14-2008, 07:53 AM
In the UK evidence gathered by means of hypnosis is not admissable in court. However, how anyone would know or be able to prove that hypnosis has been used is beyond me.(He waved a watch in front of my face, m'lud, and said 'You are growing sleeepy...?):D

It is far more likely that the police will be trained in NLP techniques which can be disguised as normal interrogation. As far as I know NLP is not considered inadmissable in UK courts.

Have no idea about Ohio, but someone will.

Jack

Don
10-14-2008, 09:42 AM
What you are talking about is technically called "forensic hypnosis." I just did a web search for that expression and received "about 67,900" hits. A search for "forensic hypnosis" at an on-line bookstore produced at least 10 books and products on the subject.

There is absolutely no way way we could reproduce the information from ten books and 67,900 web pages in a post of a few hundred words. So in direct answer to your question, yes, people here know TONS about the police use of hypnosis and the law, however it is impossible to share everything in a short post.

However, your claim to "need to know all [you] can on this subject" is obviously false. Part of everything on this subject would include the history of hypnosis going back 10,000 years. Do you really need to know that hypnosis was used in ancient India and Egypt? I don't think so. Do you really need to know that Mesmer was more of an energy healer than just a hypnotist as most people think? I don't think so. Do you need to know various methods of hypnotizing people? I've seen nothing in your post to indicate it. Do you need to know the difference between hypnotizing a child and an adult? Maybe. Do you need to know how to cause or prevent confabulation? Probably, but maybe not.

So instead of falsely claiming that you need to know "everything," how about sharing what you specifically need to know? You'll get a much more specific answer, one that is appropriate to your needs.

Alternatively, you might contact Marx Howell directly.

What is it you really want to know?

justthefacts
10-14-2008, 10:06 AM
Really, I want to know all I can. I have already ordered some books. I was hypnotized.....in my sleep. Numerous times. I remember bits and pieces. It's all I can do to fill in the holes in my mind...to educate myself. And, I already have a call into Marx Howell. I am baffled how this happend as far as the law goes. It's one of my many questions. It's not possible to post all of my questions, there's too many.

Don
10-14-2008, 10:54 AM
If you have too many questions, who would you expect us to give you all of the answers?

However, let's get to the most important questions first: How do you know you were hypnotized in your sleep? What evidence do you have for this?

Why do you think the law would have anything to do with your being hypnotized in your sleep? How has your life been changed as a result of being hypnotized in your sleep?

Respectfully, your comments are all over the place. You seem to have a lack of focus and direction in your inquiries. I would suggest that rather than reading books, websites, and asking strangers on a forum about this that you immediately get a consultation with a local hypnotherapist or psychologist. They'll be able to answer all of your questions.

Frankly, from what you've posted, my guess is that things have changed in your life and you're looking for a rationalization to understand what happened. You've heard a little about hypnosis--probably myths from novels, movies, and TV rather than anything valid--and are blaming it all on your limited information about hypnosis.

I repeat, I would urge you, strongly, to consult with a local psychologist or hypnotherapist.

By the way, very few people would be able to hypnotize you in your sleep. Why is a person with an incredible amount of training, skill, and practice be so interested in hypnotizing you?

Merlin
10-14-2008, 11:12 AM
Check my FAQ for starters

justthefacts
10-14-2008, 12:30 PM
I DON'T expect all the answers. I only asked one question, about law and police hypnosis. I can't say too much, it's dangerous, but I was in the position to help the police so I did. After some time, they took it upon themselves to begin hypnotizing me. In my sleep. I am NOT seeing a psychologist, I may, however, see a hypnotherapist to see if I underwent hypnosis again if I could recall the sessions with the police. My story is long, complicated, and my questions go on for miles. Right now I'm focusing on if the law in Ohio allows them to do this.

justthefacts
10-14-2008, 12:32 PM
If you have too many questions, who would you expect us to give you all of the answers?

However, let's get to the most important questions first: How do you know you were hypnotized in your sleep? What evidence do you have for this?

Why do you think the law would have anything to do with your being hypnotized in your sleep? How has your life been changed as a result of being hypnotized in your sleep?

Respectfully, your comments are all over the place. You seem to have a lack of focus and direction in your inquiries. I would suggest that rather than reading books, websites, and asking strangers on a forum about this that you immediately get a consultation with a local hypnotherapist or psychologist. They'll be able to answer all of your questions.

Frankly, from what you've posted, my guess is that things have changed in your life and you're looking for a rationalization to understand what happened. You've heard a little about hypnosis--probably myths from novels, movies, and TV rather than anything valid--and are blaming it all on your limited information about hypnosis.

I repeat, I would urge you, strongly, to consult with a local psychologist or hypnotherapist.

By the way, very few people would be able to hypnotize you in your sleep. Why is a person with an incredible amount of training, skill, and practice be so interested in hypnotizing you?

Oops, I meant to reply to you and replied to Merlin. I'm still figuring this site out.

pmdigi
10-14-2008, 12:43 PM
With respect - it sounds to me like you are imagining things and need to differentiate between reality and fantasy. (No offense)

Connie
10-14-2008, 01:16 PM
If you think the police in your area are doing something inappropriate (which I doubt has anything remotely to do with hypnosis), you could contact your local district attorney's office. Find out if there is a review board, or what complaints processes might be in place. For legal questions, an attorney is a good bet!

Poodle
10-14-2008, 01:40 PM
I know how to put in useful and beneficial suggestions while a person is sleeping. This is NOT something that most people know nor do I teach it. Just remember -- YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT OR REJECT SUGGESTIONS.

Please go to a hypnotherapist in your area or do as Connie suggested. As Jack has stated we can get a lot more information in and out with NLP than with hypnosis.

The most hypnosis a police department is allowed to use is consentual and only to recall certain events with NO LEADING BY THE HYPNOTIST. It's taped or filmed with witnesses in the room.

HYPNOSIS IS NOT A TRUTH SERUM. HYPNOSIS CANNOT MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING THAT IS AGAINST YOUR MORALS OR ETHICS.

Still believe you have a problem? If so, please contact a psychiatrist immediately.

Jack
10-15-2008, 03:12 AM
It is often difficult to ascertain where the truth lies when someone feels or believes that something is being done to them without permission.

Without the full facts nobody can give you information that would be useful, but I would suggest that if you do go to see an hypnotherapist that you make absolutely sure that the person you see is fully qualified and is a member of one of the main hypnotherapy organisations, NGH, ABH etc.

Be prepared to accept that the truth as you see it may not be what you expect.

Jack

Terry
10-15-2008, 08:38 AM
First of all, people "out there" know nothing about people in here, so who knows what is going on in Ohio? I do know that I have worked with the police on occassion, but have no intention of revealing what was done, since that breaks client confidentiality. Want to know, look for information closer to home than the internut..... Policemen do not use hypnosis, they contact people like me to do it for them.....