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Alban
10-01-2008, 12:01 PM
Hi everybody!

I have a question

What is difference between dreaming sleep and hypnosis?




Alban

Poodle
10-01-2008, 04:43 PM
There is a very large difference between dreaming and hypnosis; however I have put myself into a very deep state of trance in my dreams. When that happens I always wake right up -- DRATS!!

Even though a person may look sound asleep in hypnosis their mind is hearing clearly what is said and they still have the ability to accept or reject suggestions. Even at the deepest level for surgery the person can still hear the hypnotist's voice or other sounds that we would wish them to hear or not hear. A lady may have a baby laughing and giggling with absence of discomfort - see her child - go take a shower and go out to dinner with husband.

See if you like my definition: Hypnosis is the level of AWARENESS that puts you in contact with both the conscious and unconscious minds simultaneously, noting the dual nature of the mind. Hypnosis is an altered state wherein the critical factor of the conscious mind is by-passed and selective thinking maintained. The senses are generally enhanced (hyperacuity) during hypnosis. One may be induced into hypnosis by relaxation, confusion, shock. Hypnosis is not a truth serum which is more than we can say for people that talk in their sleep, huh? Dreaming is really relaxing but hypnosis is not necessarily relaxation.

It is very easy to drift from self-hypnosis to sleep at night although I'd prefer to stay in hypnosis -- it just feels sooo absolutely wonderful.

Some time ago there was a hypnotist that called hypnosis "Miracles on Demand". That's very true. We can make your dreams come true.

I'm sure you know enough about dreaming that I don't have to explain sleep and dreams to you.

Stay well,
Pood

Alban
10-02-2008, 03:43 AM
Even though a person may look sound asleep in hypnosis their mind is hearing clearly what is said and they still have the ability to accept or reject suggestions. Pood

Hi!

even in somnambulism we can reject suggestions? in somnambulism critical factory is bypassed ( we don't think, don't we ) we are communicate with unconscious and unconscious don't think, it reacts automatically. or, in this case maybe unconscious reject suggestions automatically?


Alban

Connie
10-02-2008, 08:44 AM
Poodle, I like your definition.

Poodle
10-02-2008, 09:56 AM
Even in somnambulism the CF is by-passed -- that is a classic definition of hypnosis at any level. Suggestions can always be rejected. That is exactly the reason that we work very hard to word the suggestions so they are NOT rejected, use metaphors and/or nested loops.

The client is ALWAYS in CONTROL!! If not, we would all be super rich from having everyone rob and steal for us.

Now read Merlin's FAQ. She has put a lot of work and effort in it.

If I just wrote your school paper, please give me credit. Everything appearing in print in any media is copyrighted.

Stay well,
Pood :)

Poodle
10-02-2008, 11:18 AM
You used the words "not thinking". I believe those to be the wrong words. One is not thinking linearly. One is NEVER unconscious during any hypnosis and the communication between the minds never ceases. As one is in a state of hyperacuity hearing may be "sharper". Around here we have simplified hypnosis. One either is or is not and the level is unimportant unless one is having surgery. I can have you in somnambulism walking and talking and making perfect sense. If one is unable to "think" in somnambulism, how could one walk, talk and answer questions correctly? The inner mind knows how to multiply too. I can use somnambulism for stage hypnosis with people moving around, talking, playing parts, etc., etc.

As Skip has said about me: "Any old trance will do" and he is sooo very correct. :)

Jack
10-05-2008, 01:39 AM
Hi everybody!

I have a question What is difference between dreaming sleep and hypnosis?
Alban

A different take: the dreamstate, sometimes known as theta state is indistinguishable from a deep, hypnotic state.

Whether there is actually any difference is debatable (and has been debated -look through the archives). I believe whatever differences exist are not of value in therapy, but others believe differently.

On your second question: just because the subconscious is accessible in a suitable altered state does not mean that it is a fool. The subconscious will reject any suggestion that is not of benefit or is harmful to the 'owner'. The subconscious does not 'react automatically'; it is a part of the nominalisation we call the mind and as such has access to all parts of that 'mind' to reach a conclusion.

Jack