Dangers of Hypnosis

[jeremy]

The website http://www.xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk reads well, and sounds interesting. What it states, contradicts alot of the postings on this forum.
What do you think?

Moderators note: The posters name is Jeremy. The person responsible for the web design of the site linked is named Jeremy. Concidence? This is pure spam.
However enough replies were made to give some validation to the thread.

[subliminal 2]

dear friend
yes there are dangers with hypnosis
as there are dangers with most things in life
the biggest one that keeps coming up in hypnosis is TRAUMA
were the subject seems to be ok but later on gets flash backs
this maybe due to a number of things subjects do not always
tell the hypnotist everything remember if a client has a problem
they want to get relief from it so if they tell you a certain
thing it may prevent you treating them

a typical case a lady suffers from migraine but her doctor does not get on
well with her so she seeks your help
and you get rid of the pain 3 moths later doctors find its a tumour

and that's a danger of course all good hypnotists would ask
if she had seen a doctor and if she said no would strongly
advise the client to do so I have my own doctor who is a doctor on the NHS
and does homeopathy as well so I can reefer the patient

but you must also remember that we are not legislated
by government like doctors there are places that we can register
with and have letters after are name

but anyone can be a hypnothereapist there is no regulation in use
at the moment and it is this that puts clients at risk and when that
happens we all take the fall

best wishes subliminal 2

[Terry (existing)]

Strange, I see no contradiction in this intro to a book, and what is published on this site, except for the sensationalism which is natural for selling books, but not for informing others of truth, and not for replying to questions. Kindly tell me if you can, under what circumstances you feel you are not in danger? Walking is dangerous depending on where you are, you could be struck down by a vehicle, or attacked by a dangerous beast, yet we all walk at times and enjoy the walk....You might suggest the you are safe from all harm in your bed, but not true, too much time in bed might well lead to an early death from lack of excercise, and in the event of a storm, the chimney might collapse, come through the roof in top of you and kill you violently (G).....Sorry, no place to hide from danger, it is all around, and we must accept it. Freedom is not dependant on safety from danger, but rather on freedom from fear of danger..........Now tell me why you bothered to post the question, since I am sure you had a good reason, and it might well prove of interest to the rest of us?

[betlamed]

A different perspective is always a good thing because it helps keep things in... yeah, well, in perspective.

I would love to find out how Wheeler imagines hypnosis can "derange" brain cells. Does he offer any explanation? Not on the website. We'll have to buy the book to find out.

I really think details like that can seriously undermine any healthy and honorable attempt to provide a different view. (And apart from that, why do so many websites have to be designed in such an ugly way? *gg*)

That said, of course we shouldn't take the benefits of hypnosis for granted and just ignore the dangers. I love my intuition to work more with self-hypnosis than anything else, and to use my hypnotherapist only as an assistant in finding good suggestions.

There are many, many charlatans out there, so choose well whom to trust!

bl

[betlamed]

Terry: "Freedom is not dependant on safety from danger, but rather on freedom from fear of danger"

Amen to that, man!

bl

[betlamed]

Hehe, a little googling pointed me to the source of the aforementioned quote:

http://www.harvestfields.ca/ebook/02/048/05.htm

bl

[Don]

The website http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk reads well, and sounds interesting. What it states, contradicts alot of the postings on this forum.
What do you think?

I think he's pimping his book.

I also know that in the U.K. right now there is some paranoia left over from the Satanic Panic of a few years ago that is manifesting in the form of anyone who goes to see a stage hypnotist is liable to go crackers and he's just tapping into it.

If his book was really good he'd be able to get somebody to publish it or would have the courage to do it himself. Instead, not trusting that anyone would actually want to buy it, he only advertises it on his website.

Well, maybe it is good, but it doesn't seem like he is willing to find out by submitting it to a publisher or putting up the money himself.

You get what you pay for. There are all sorts of books about Elvis being alive, too.

[betlamed]

I think he's pimping his book.


It turns out that Jeremy Wheeler has spammed other more or less "related" webforums as well, in the same style as the original poster of this thread...

His ridiculous claims have triggered a few interesting discussions for me, so I'm fairly satisfied with how things turn out.

And I finally looked up the term "abreaction" in a dictionary. ;-)

bl

[Jack]

Hello Jeremy,

The only danger in hypnosis is it's use as a party trick by untrained amateurs or those stage hypnotists who care not one jot for the welfare of their subjects.

Jack

[Merlin]

Hello,

Stage hypnosis can be quite dangerous, and the practitioner should be well trained.
The greatest danger is from a fall.
Stages may be 2-3 meters off of the ground.
That's a long way for a subject to fall if she isn't paying attention.
Orchestra pits make the fall hazzard worse.
Then there are the stage trap doors. 6 meters drops are possible there... ouch!
Then there is the possiblity of chairs/tables & other props collapsing.
Oh, and low hanging lights.
Spot lights in the eyes make seeing the stage area difficult.

And don't forget the girl who dates the gorilla.
"That hypnotist made a fool of me"
POW!.. broken nose... bloody mess.

Stage hypnosis can be a real hazzard!

[AnthonyM83]

I almost posted the same link as he did, just because I saw it elsewhere.

One thing that did raise a red flag is the number of people I've seen post on boards thinking they never got out of the trance, wanting to know how to unhypnotise themselves....anything to that?

Eitherway, I don't see much evidence for the claims he's making on that site.

[Jack]

Well, Anthony, I have the opinion that we are all pretty much in some sort of trance for most of the time and usually it is a self-selected one we choose to call reality. It could be that those people who claim to have been stuck in a trance are, but it is not the version with which they are familiar.

Jack

[skip]

Jeremy,

I think this is someone who cannot successfully compete in the arena with the rest of the hypnosis commercial enterprises.

So in an effort to carve out a market nich, he has chosen to use scare tactis. In this way he is able to claim 'instant credibility' with no substantive credential to back it up, and no peer aceptance needed.

It is a slick tool.

And it may be successful and smart marketing, for him.

It is harmful to the field he wants to support himself in, and everyone else whose priroties arent just making a buck at the expense of the goose that lays the eggs and everyone else involved.

This isnt the sort of person I would trust cleaning out my septic tank, much less mucking around in my head.

Obviously tastes vary.

skip

[pinktrance]

ive seen this before on the AOL hypnotherapy homepage advertising section.
This stuff is just scaremongering thats all!
It dosent apply to ethical well trained hypnotherapists with clients well being at the frount of their mind.
There are cowboys in every profession known to man, look at doctor Harold Shipman for one! most of us will only work for the good, leaving clients feeling good and being safe. I would like to see legislation come in to only allow hypnotherapists to practice that have recognised training and belong to governing bodies, it is the only way for our profession to have the recognition it deserves!

[AnthonyM83]

Well, Anthony, I have the opinion that we are all pretty much in some sort of trance for most of the time and usually it is a self-selected one we choose to call reality. It could be that those people who claim to have been stuck in a trance are, but it is not the version with which they are familiar.

JackOkay, I can buy that. The problem of them being in a kind of trance they don't want to be (because it's less productive, comfortable, etc) is still there. (If it's actually happening)

This actually reminds me of something else I've been meaning to bring up. I'll start a new thread, though.

[Tudor]

In Sweden stage hypnosis is not allowed and that goes back in time. As a result, hypnosis in Sweden is not a “big thing” and “we don’t believe in it”. The few therapist doing hypnosis (not official) is considered somewhat strange and odd and as a charlatan. Just saying hypnosis brings out a spooked face and scary big eyes.

If stage hypnotists in Sweden, in the time when it was allowed, done their homework and acted serious, it would never been banned. If never banned, we would have more knowledge about hypnosis and not just the biased frightening alarming info that once helped the government to get hypnosis banned and therefore didn’t have to learn anything about its benefits.

The National Board of Health and Welfare today don’t know what hypnosis is and as a result, hypnosis have to be preformed by a licensed professional health care worker.

Only professional doing hypnosis! Sounds great! Yeah!

If you ban something you don’t know any thing about, there is bound to be some “smart” person that just rename the word hypnosis to something else. Then you have a person doing hypnosis without any control at all, because you don’t need a license for “Dr Quacks Duct Tape Methods For Split Personality™”.

With knowledge comes understanding. Understanding and knowledge about hypnosis is what is lacking in Sweden.

Peter

[Merlin]

A danger I did not name:

The hypnosis subject, or anyone else in the audience may *blame* any ailment for the next 20 years on the hypnotist. Whether it's a hangnail or one eyelash too few on one eye.

I was in an audience once. I must have been hypnotised and didn't know it!