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Indigo
03-09-2005, 05:19 AM
I am curious about if hypnosis can be done through the Internet. I assume voice chat can be successful, what I would like to know is if text chat can be used to induce some level of hypnotic state.
If so, does any of you have experience doing it?

Thank you.

Indigo

parsa
03-09-2005, 06:56 AM
Your question got me thinking.

I would guess that just writing would eliminate a lot of information that one would otherwise recieve when talking in person.

But, what would people with NLP and hypnosis expertise think about doing it over the internet with voice and image? Like if you set up a net meeting.

Would they approve of it? Or is this still in some way limiting?

Terry (existing)
03-09-2005, 07:52 AM
Parsa, why lose all the fun? I find it most enjoyable when I do face to face with a client. I wouldn't be pedantic about percentages, but we do know that we have five senses that all come into play when we are interacting with another person. Let us say that only seven percent applies to reading, and the rest is lost. Now we replace that with voice, and we then have say 20 percent. A better odds, but still not up to the standard of face to face eh? add video, and agree that this gives us an improvement up to 50%. We still don't have what we have mono e mono, and all the fun is missing....Why on earth would anyone knowing the skills required of the hypnotist, ask if it could be done via the internet. Seems to me it just shows how much this medium has taken over our lives don't you think?

parsa
03-09-2005, 08:08 AM
Terry,

I totally agree. If not anything else, it is much more enjoyable to be face to face.

The reason I asked was only for conditions where "being" there is improbable. And I just wanted to see how well it would work. You say 50 percent, not as good as I thought.

Maybe wait for holograms:D .

Merlin
03-09-2005, 08:30 AM
Hi,

Yes it can be done by online chat

Pdrive
03-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Surely someone engrossed in a online conversation is in a light trance anyways?

Indigo
03-10-2005, 06:06 AM
I did a search on the Internet and received many different replies on the topic, that's why I asked here. Many says that since every hypnosis is self hypnosis, if a person is willing to enter hypnosis he/she would enter even if it was just reading suggestions done via text chat. My questions was if that can really work or not.

Many thanks for your answers

betlamed
03-10-2005, 06:19 AM
Pdrive,

well... yes, but regular chatters often have many chat windows open at the same time, and once you have "enjoyed" the fruitlessness of so many chatrooms, you learn how not to expect much of it, so you don't trance too deep.

bl

Terry (existing)
03-10-2005, 07:42 AM
Actually, I need to backpeddle a little here, because we seem to be talking apples and oranges, and though both are fruit, I'm sure we agree they are not the same. I have found that a well written book can produce not only a state of trance, but even, because of it's contents, suggestions that take, and become part on the readers personality, and in that sense we have hypnosis, since we have a combination of the trance state, and the suggestions given during that state becoming fact.... I am therefor not correct when I say that it is not possible to hypnotise someone via the printed page, but I am right in that it is unlikely that we will do so. How many of you read a book online for example. No, we rush from post to post and never concentrate on just one, or read one long enough to get an advantage from it except at the concious level. Can you therefor be hypnotised via the written word? Yes, but I maintain that it will never happen via the short messages sent online. Can we do it via voice and video from a distance, well, again a qualified yes, but I would personally hesitate to try it without being sure someone local was present who could deal with any problem arising. Perhaps I am too careful, but better sure than sorry. Anyway, I was correct in saying that it would remove all the fun arising from the interaction between practitioner and client, and personally I would not do it, but my apology for picturing the wrong picture when replying first time. Comes with age I suppose, the mind slowing down but the fingers moving faster with practise (G)...... I was visualizing online postings, while forgetting the lessons of a good book.

Neurotic1
03-10-2005, 11:22 AM
Well those are some interesting replies.

I agree that it is far better to have the person receiving therapy there with you (I hate the term 'client' and 'patient' seems too medical). As a therapist, you can pick up so much more of the non-verbals and modify the approach(es) you take accordingly. NLP might be more amenable to online use in some ways but I suppose there might be a grey area between that and hypnosis.

Anyway, the reason I am posting is because this reminded me of a conversation I had relating to hypnotherapy for deaf people. Obviously people who cannot hear may have some difficulty with conventional vocalised therapeutic suggestions. However, it is possible to engage in hypnotherapy with a deaf person through certain methods, one of which is the written word. There are a very few therapists who specialise in exactly that. However, for those therapists, it is usually very useful to see the person face to face as it were because they can pick up on much more non verbal signs of hypnosis, etc. Thought that might be of interest - or maybe not...

Terry (existing)
03-10-2005, 01:29 PM
Nice to know someone else who cares about helping the deaf, or hearing impaired. I developed a touch therapy for this purpose, which works for other impairments also.

Curios
03-14-2005, 01:12 PM
It would put on some severe limits so maybe not therapy but some form of hypnosis in general could defiantly be done like you said terry, going form of hypnosis could definatly be done going with NLP.Propeganda leaflets are perhaps the greatest examples lol.

Seriosly, an online chat would provide for a good few sublimal anchor points.Such as typing in complete sentences(asuming you normaly dont do this) for one experiance and using a diferent font for another experiance.The two could be stacked by writing in complete sentences with the anchored font.

Shlomo_NLP
03-17-2005, 12:11 PM
In theory it can be done... I know some colleagues of mine that have tried it and it didn't work well for them... there's something about having a personal connection that is hard to recreate through chat... maybe with audio chat, but then again there's the idea of one-up-manship that is missing.

Still I'd say the best way is in person.. then you can kick your client if he doesn't wake up fast enough ;-)